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CNNW CNN July 3, 2024

Hello everyone. Breaking news that we are watching, well we are watching Breaking News on many fronts including a Mass Evacuation being ordered. Israel just hours ago ordered more than 1 Million People to get out of Northern Gaza and begin heading south, to move south to avoid what is coming. Hamas though has responded to this, this order from the idf, hamas response telling civilians to stay in place. It is not clear how much time idf is giving people to leave this region up near, this wetland right here. You are talking about the area with a Population Density of about 25,000 people per square mile. Thats the Dividing Line. Its the most densely populated area that israel is calling on people to leave from. Many of the people have no means to get out and nowhere to go. Right now, we want to get to Nick Robertson who is in an israeli town a mile, two miles with the border of gaza. Why dont you tell us what you are hearing. Reporter we have been seeing and hearing air strikes and artillery strikes on gaza behind us. I have to say the past 12 hours at least through the night last night were some of the heaviest bombardment we have heard in the northern end of gaza. Behind me thats the sort of tip of the northern end of gaza. I am hearing more detonations. Israeli say so far they have fired 6,000 air launch missiles in gaza. When you take the numbers from the last confrontation with hamas, a 50 day war, this 6,000 figure in six days is already more missiles than idf fired on gaza or tarts in gaza in that confrontation. That gives you an idea of the magnitude of strikes. The reason theyve asked them to move south is humanitarian reasons. They know theyre under scrutiny, pressure about climbing Palestinian Death toll, over 1500 already. They say they want the civilians to get out of the way. Hamas is telling civilians to stay in place. Theyre saying this is psychological warfare by israelis. Theyre trying to evict you from your homes. The only way well go hamas says is to our homeland. The scene is set. Hamas is telling civilians dont move. Israel is telling them to move because this is a humanitarian gesture to potentially spare civilian casualties. When there are civilian casualties is hamas to blame . In gaza, hamas controls transportation. Most people dont have a way of moving south other than on foot. We have seen images of people on foot. Hamas would have to provide transportation, buses, trucks, that sort of thing which are in short supply in gaza. From our Vantage Point today, it sounds as if that area in Northern Gaza continues to be hit. Israel telling civilians move somewhere safer. Hamas says dont move. This is gaza. This is the Dividing Line, israel asking people to move south of there, nick hearing some of the loudest most Constant Bombardment of Northern Gaza that he has seen. Stay safe and keep us posted as to what you are seeing and hearing. These are live pictures of huge protests being held against the strikes on gaza. This is a scene in yemen this hour. This is also as United States is showing once again its iron clad support of israel to defend itself now. Whats the latest . Reporter there is no doubt the events of this past week have put palestinian issue front and center in minds of not only Decision Makers in the region but also the general public. Today we have seen mass protests across this region in support of gaza. Of course in irans capitol. A lot heeding calls of getting in the streets and showing anger of what they perceive to be israeli crimes committed against palestinians. These would be sponsored and supported by regime and come after friday prayers. The point is to show there is public backing for the regimes support for groups like hamas and hezbollah it calls collective resistance. Those protests in iran and even iraq where calling his supporters out ought to be expected quite frankly. Then we have seen protests in places like jordan where masses have taken to the streets to protest against the siege of gaza and what many fear is this impending Ground Incursion and subsequent humanitarian catastrophe that may unfold as israeli troops Battle Hamas Militants Street By street. Thats what makes this situation so important in the region. A lot of people here galvanize by what they are seeing and worried about whats to come. They are clearly getting out and getting their voices heard. Thats the situation there. I am in jerusalem. Let me close out with this. We have been in East Jerusalem today, very few people on the streets and very few people at the mosque today. You would normally see the courtyard outside of the mosque full of those midday prayers. It was very empty. We spoke to people who say it is clear, who they let in is women over 50 and men over 60. In East Jerusalem, people were coming back. There were some scuffles, i have to say. I have covered the violence in East Jerusalem in the past and i have to say it was Something Like that. I have to say it was an uneasy sense of calm to be honest in East Jerusalem today. As you see, there are definitely people heeding thats calls to voice their protests against what is going on in gaza. It really remains to be seen what happens next in the hours to come at this point. Back to you guys. Thank you so much. We will stick close as we are watching the protests play out and things continue to develop exactly where you are. Thank you. I have a map of The Middle East up here, almost all of it. Why . U. S. Secretary of state blinken is in qatar and he will meet are officials there. He has close ties to hamas and is seen as having influence over the group. The hope is he can work towards freeing the 100 plus hostages in gaza. Let me give you a sense of the travels of blinken. He began the day in jordan where he met with king of jordan. He also met with the palestinian leader. Then he went to qatar. Then he will go to bahrain and ultimately saudi arabia. Lets get a sense of what the Secretary Of State is hoping to get out of this. He is really trying to put pressure on the states to in turn pressure hamas to release the hostages in captivity in gaza. That is one of the main messages of course he was delivering to qatar which has close ties to hamas and which has emerged as a key intermediary to organize some kind of Prisoner Swap we are told between israelis and palestinians. We are told qatar has been mediating specifically to Exchange Women and children in gaza in exchange for palestinian women and children being held in jails. Again all of this is really going to depend a lot on the condition of the hostages, whether hamas is willing to engage in this kind of Prisoner Swap. So far we have not seen signs that theyre willing to do that. But this is a diplomatic chore aimed at putting pressure on regional states who may have some leverage over hamas to try to get them to release the prisoners. Blinken has been going across the region. After saudi arabia, you will go to the uae and egypt. This is intensive Shuttle Diplomacy because all u. S. Officials recognize that time is of the essence. Idf and israelis have indicated they want civilians to get out of gaza potentially in advance of some Ground Operation by israelis into gaza. So the worry of course is that the hostages and captives there could be caught in the cross fire. Time is really important and really of the essence, Secretary Blinken pulling out all the stops to use their leverage and influence. A remarkable trip ultimately to the uae and egypt. Keep us posted. We likely will hear from the Secretary Of State in the comes hour. Thanks. We will bring that when he does speak of course. With us now is former u. S. Ambassador to israel and egypt. Thank you so much. You have Secretary Of Defense and Secretary Of State in tandem in israel. They just detailed also the travels of tony blinken now. Lloyd austin could not have been more clear today in the support for israel. What do you make of this show of force . You have three messages being under taken simultaneously by u. S. Officials. Number one, the president s message the other day that there is no distance between us and israel. We have their back. That will be reinforced in almost anything the administration says. Number two, Secretary Of State as your reporters have indicated, is out there trying to avert humanitarian crisis by starting a deescalation of the conflict, seeing whether or not humanitarian distress can be relieved. And the Secretary Of Defense Correspond Naturing with israel on what we might do militarily to deter hezbollah and iran from further escalating this conflict. Its a complicated set of policy activities. But its good to see that there is this activity on the three different fronts. Lets go through a little bit of these three fronts if you will. What do you do . Its more than complicated to try to figure out and get right. But what do you do about a humanitarian crisis thats unfolding. Gaza civilians cut off from resources, hospitals overwhelmed, being asked to evacuate to the southern part of gaza. How do you get this right . What needs to happen right away . I think there are two ways to approach it. One is through this deescalation idea. Can some kind of a hostage release, Prisoner Release Deal Be arranged quickly that gives pause to the Military Engagement . That doesnt solve humanitarian issue but may delay what looks like inevitable Israeli Ground operation. Number two, there are two Question Marks on the humanitarian side. Is there such a thing as humanitarian corridor for example into egypt under un auspices for temporary relocation of people in gaza and number two would be some pressure on the part of qatar, turkey, egypt on hamas to stop using Human Shields and to essentially come and fight. Israels concern with respect to Ground Operation is the hostages and civilians are in the way. And thats being used as an asset by hamas. None of these frankly is easy and none of them may work which suggests that we are going to face a significant humanitarian crisis. When israeli leaders say theyre going it wipe hamas off the face of the earth, what is this going to look like . First, i dont think it will be possible to do that. Hamas is a movement. Its not a card carrying, uniform wearing organization. What the israelis i think are looking at is the decapitation of the leadership and thats what theyve tried to do in the past. I think their bombing activities now and into days ahead will be designed to locate hamas leaders and see if they cant kill them at that point. A Ground Operation, should it occur, would be further evidence that thats what the objective is. Kill, capture as many of the leaders and operatives of hamas as possible. But to wipe hamas off the face of the earth, i dont think thats doable. How great is the risk do you think of this Spilling Over . Talking about kind of the third front here, of this Spilling Over to be a larger regional conflict. I think the risk of escalation is terrifically high. You have west bank in East Jerusalem, i heard Becky Anderson indicate that it is quiet. But we have seen problems on the west bank. Huge problem on the northern border. Reservists are split between northern border and gaza area because of threat of hezbollah which is a more formidable Terror Organization than hamas and the big threat involving iran. Any can be triggered by calculation and miscalculation. Therefore the threat is very high. Ambassador, thank you so much for coming on. Israel Defense Forces dropping pamphlets over gaza telling people to move south. 1 Million People here, they want to move over the marshland right there, evacuation. Hamas says dont go. We will speak to a spokesman from the idf to get a sense of how they think this is supposed to happen. Stay with us. This morning Israeli Military dropped leaflets over northeastern gaza telling more than a Million People to move south now. Hamas is telling people not to leave. I can show you what the leaflets look like. This is a close up of the leaflets telling people to evacuate south. I can show you exactly where theyre told to go. This is Northern Gaza, more than a Million People leave, the most densely populated area. People are being told to leave. With us from israel Defense Forces, thank you so much for being with us. Can you clear something up . How long do people of Northern Gaza have to leave . I think what is more important to ask is when should they leave . I would say they need to leave immediately. We are taking our activities to a different level of striking hamas capabilities. We are determined in beating hamas and destroying infrastructure, infrastructure they use to plan, coordinate, fund, strike in the heart of israels soft under belly, people of israel where they butchered us in their bedrooms and their living rooms. So we are warning the people of gaza that they need to evacuate the area. I would say now. They need to do it as quick as possible because we want to deal with hamas. The United Nations said you gave people 24 hour deadline. Eu is saying that is totally unrealistic. A Million People cant move from here to here in less than 24 hours. Whats your response . I am happy to see that some reports are showing people are listening to our warning despite hamas telling them to sacrifice themselves and not evacuate. Actually when hamas tells people not to evacuate, it goes to show what we have been saying. Hamas has no regard for human life israeli or palestinian. If they had regard for human life, they would be evacuating people to the south as we suggested. But they dont care. So we are telling people if you care for your life, dont wait for hamas. Take your things, take your family, move south. Israel is fighting hamas. You are not our enemy. Hamas is our enemy. Therefore we are operating in order to remove this threat once and for all from israel. Again, this is the Dividing Line between where you are telling people to go in the north that includes gaza city, most populous in gaza, what do you think gaza city will look like after this operation . I will tell you just one example of something we have shared with cnn over the last 24 hours. Hamas positioned their Strike Drones on the roofs of houses. They dont care who lives in the houses. They put them specifically on the houses. We took out the Strike Drones. This is what we are facing. So the reality of where hamas has effectively made gaza, gaza strip, specifically north of gaza and gaza city a fortified position under the houses of people. We are telling people we want you to move so we can deal with this threat. They cannot be permitted to govern the gaza strip as a Staging Ground for brutal massacres against israel. We wont permit it. When you say go, go where . As you know, the crossing into egypt in the south is closed as well. You are just telling people to basically fold the country in half . We have instructed them to move south so we can defend our people. You cant expect us not to defend our people because hamas is hiding behind them. We want to ask about what could be the repercussions. Hezbollah obviously operates in southern. In the past theyve drawn a line saying if Israeli Ground forces move hezbollah will strike at israel. Whats your concern there . The idea over the last seven days now has recruited some 300,000 reservists in order to be prepared for all of our fronts, west bank, gaza strip, and of course border with lebanon and the front with hezbollah. The situation is as such. I would advise hezbollah to watch very closely what we are doing now to hamas. It would be a grave mistake on their behalf if they decide to attack israel. We are prepared. We have all the forces necessary. We have a competent force, ground forces, naval forces all poised and prepared at a very high level of alert in order to confront hezbollah if need be. I want to ask, one of the things hezbollah claimed is some 13 of the hostages died in air strikes. Do you have any confirmation of that . Do you have any proof of life at this point of the some 100 plus people missing and may be in gaza now . No, we dont. Not that i am aware of. I would say that hamas is responsible for well being of all the people they abducted to the gaza strip. We expect them to release the people to their homes in israel immediately. They are going to pay t

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