And can another candidate get 217 votes and this is a huge question as the leaderless house. He is using other to pressure the members of congress to vote for him. Yeah. That is exactly right. That is the hope that, ultimately that these members will come to his side. Expect there could be breaks in between each of these votes. We will see exactly how this plays out but a lot of uncertainty at the moment but there could be meetings that happen to try to pick off these members onebyone. We will see if they decide to recess longer a few hours or maybe come back the next day. We will see. They hope they can eventually get the members by tonight to come their way and perhaps that Pressure Campaign they believe will get them to come to their side. One said i will close out entirely if they pressure him. We expect him to vote for Steve Scalise on the floor and not jim jordan. Dana, what are you hearing . I want to underscore, based on some reporting that im doing, one of the aspects of jordans challenge. That is something that is so fundamental and it is the 2020 election. I spoke to one of the republican lawmakers who is a holdout. One of those is having oneonone meetings with jim jordan as jordan tries to get votes onebyone. The ask by this member who i spoke to was really simple. Will you go out and say publicly that donald trump lost the election . And jim jordan could not say, yes, i will do that. And that is an example of some of these conversations. Again, so fundamental that are happening Behind The Scenes. Yes, there are lots of different factors in some of the holdouts. Most of them are moderates and most of them are those who come from biden districts, meaning districts where joe biden won in 2020 and they are republicans who are trying to grapple with the notion of being very vulnerable in the General Election but vulnerable in the shortterm if they dont vote for jim jordan in the primary. Of all of those aspects and factors, one of those fundamentals that is in 2023 still something that jim jordan wont say which is that donald trump lost more than three years ago, is a factor we should keep in mind and that is according to a source i spoke to who will have a vote and is really interested in jordan saying that. Very fascinating. Dana bash, thanks so much. Lets discuss with my panel here. You see the members of congress on the floor of the house there. Kasie hunt, akin to saying can you go out there and say that nasa actually landed a man on the moon, that the moon landing wasnt faked . Can you go out there and say barack obama was born in hawaii ennot in africa . He is not able to do it. Jim jordan, in all likelihood, not able to stay a fact, a fact that is ripping apart the denial of which is ripping apart this country. The beginning of this trend we had seen in our politics of denying the things that you very much outlined. Its just so incredibly telling that jim jordan doesnt feel he can do that in public, right . I dont even know if he believes it. Youre giving him the benefit of the doubt that in saying why do you i guess true if you listen to what he says its impossible to know what he believes. I have had enough conversations with other republicans in private that is teams like they pretty much know what is going on but they have to tell their base of voters something else. Think about what she just said. We dont know what he believes. How do you lead if anybody knows or trusts what you believe. How do you lead people. The reason we are where we are is that most of them are from very safely republican drawn districts they can say anything and deny the 2020 election. Tuesday comes after monday. Donald trump lost the election. The world is round. The climate is in crisis. Donald trump lost the election in 2020. They wont say it because they dont have to because they go home to safe districts. Can jim jordan get enough of them . He is everything that trump base loves. He will say anything. He will smear anyone. He will throw innuendo and cherry pick facts and everything that has cost the republicans dearly. Nancy pelosi was the house speaker. 2022, more of a mixed bag depending where you look in the country but the republican performance in the suburbs the last in middle cycles. People who think and Pay Attention who believe donald trump lost the election have moved away from the party. Will they make as their leader someone who doesnt know what he believes but he is willing to say whatever it takes. What is interesting, the person who is pushing this issue is one of the most conservative members of the House Republican conference. It is congressman ken buck, republican of colorado, who is one of the most conservative members but he is Behind The Scenes challenging scalise and jordan. Where are you on the 2020 election . Because he just accepts the facts. He is very conservative on fiscal issues. Im sure a lot of democrats would disagree with him on any number of issues. He just wants jordan to acknowledge that joe biden won fair and square and he wont do it. Right. Ken buck, heaven forbid, you give the straight and honest answer on this. I also want to add to what john just said. There is one other person who wants jim jordan here and that is, obviously, donald trump, who has endorsed him. We do not know yet how much Behind The Scenes he is leaning on people whipping for him. But lets keep in mind something very important about jim jordan. He is the Single Person who spoke to trump throughout the leadup to january 6th. He was his ally. He wanted to find a way to overturn the 2020 election. Lets listen in. Actually, lets not listen in. Okay. One of the other things that is interesting about jim jordan becoming this member of the republican establishment in recent days say that again. Is that until recently, he was very much a thorn in the side of the establishment. In fact, this is an uncomfortable word to use given recent events in israeli but Republican House speaker john boehner, a fellow buckeye referred to jim jordan as a, quote, legislative terrorist because he only tears things down and doesnt build things. It is true i dont think jim jordan has much of a legislative record. That is putting it charitableably. Now he is out judiciary chairman. The Jim Jordan Arrival In Congress elected in 2006 and sworn in in 2007. If he can swing the final votes, he becomes speaker, jake. You see in jordan, he comes in, the tea party starts getting traction. He becomes a cofounder of the caucus. Trumps arrival and takeover of the party gives jim jordan more fuel. Look what Kevin Mccarthy did to become speaker. He embraced jim jordan and brought jim jordan into this moment to make him chairman of the committee. The biggest outsider may be on the precipice of being speaker of the house. Lauren fox is on capitol little to give us an update what is going on. Reporter right now, they have begun the Roll Call Vote. This is the first opportunity to see the full attendance of the House Of Representatives. What we understand from our teams reporting is that democrats have full attendance today and that republicans are missing one member this afternoon. That is significant because it lowers the threshold of how many votes jim jordan could lose on the floor from four to three. So that is why this role call is so important. It probably will take 15 minutes and then they will begin the actual vote for the house speaker. This is a procedural motion but it is, obviously, a very important step that they are taking On The House Floor right now before they begin that Roll Call Vote for the speaker of the house. All right. Lauren fox, thank you so much. It is remarkable just on its face, kasie hunt. Yeah. That they are voting on a jim jordan when you think about the role he played on january 6th. Oh, yes. All of the calls, that donald trump made to him and all of the answers he refused to give the Bipartisan Committee that was investigating january 6th, the subpoenas he defied. Then as House Judiciary Committee chairman, he would issue subpoenas without even acknowledge of the fact he had refused to acknowledge subpoenas from a congressionally authorized committee. We probably wont know the full extent of his involvement. I go back to the moment On The House Floor that day where he walked up to liz cheney, then a member of congress, and seemed i dont know if he was trying to be a gentleman or what. Try to help her get away from a violent mob at the door. You know . A gunshot went off and a woman killed through the course of it. Liz cheney pulls herself away and said you eefing did this. I dont think she said that. I wont say exactly what she said. Not only was jim jordan you know, he played a role in what we saw unfold that day beyond just kind of watching it and saying after the fact, you know, excusing it after the fact. Any minute, we will see action On The House Floor when lawmakers put jim jordans name into nomination for speaker of the United StatesHouse Of Representatives. That name will be nominated. Hell be nominate by kwan stefanik. The world is crying out for a functioning u. S. Legislative branch and israeli is trying to find a war, right now a war without an american package. Stay with us. Welcome back t coverage. Youre looking at the house floor live where, in just a few minutes, lawmakers are expected to vote on a new house speaker. Tomorrow, President Biden makes a trip to warntorn israeli as they get fear for a war against terror group hamas. Sara, you saw some rockets over there in tel aviv. What is going on . Reporter almost every night and certainly in parts of israeli, you are seeing these rockets. Just a few minutes ago, we had a few come over our way and the iron dome, as it normally does, was able to intercept them and you hear those big loud sort of booms that come from the sky. That is actually a good sound in israeli because it means that the rockets have been taken out and rendered them not vous any more. We also heard today from the first family who has seen a video of their daughter who is now a hostage in gaza. It was a very first time that they found out that she was alive when hamas put that video out on social media. That was a tearful and difficult moment for everyone to view. A domother seeing her daughter injured and her arm looked as if it had been broken potentially from a Gunshot Wound but the first time she saw her aallive,o some relief there. Jeremy diamond is in jerusalem for us. President biden is leaving for israeli today, jeremy. We saw Secretary Of State blinken here and also trying to make maneuvers to try and help those in gaza, the civilians who are stuck. Its going to be a really tough task for President Biden as well. How to sort of balance the unconditional support that he has already pledged for israeli, with easing the humanitarian crisis that is getting worse by the hour in gaza. What do you know about his plans when he gets here to israeli, jeremy . Reporter yeah, right. This is going to be a visit that is going to be with show of solidarity with President Biden standing shouldertoshoulder with the Prime Minister netanyahu and with his war cabinet. Also, of course, the practical complications of what a president ial visit to this country in this moment ahead of a potential Ground Invasion with this ongoing humanitarian catastrophe in gaza. We also know that on the symbolic aspect this is about that deterrence we have been hearing from the white house so much about in these last several days. You can really put the president s visit right in line with the other steps that his administration has taken, sending two Aircraft Carrier strike groups to the region, putting those 2,000 marines and sailors on high alert for potential deployment. All of those kind of part and parcel of the same message of deterrence. Two countries like iran and other bad actors in the region not to take advantage of this war between israeli and hamas and not to allow this conflict to evolve into a broader regional issue. What will the president differ in terms of asaging the Humidity Situation in gaza . We know american officials are working to get humanitarian aid into gaza and american citizens out. Of course, also this question of hostages. 20 of whom are believed to be american citizens. There will be any kind of deal and anything in the works for the president to get them out . We will see as the president heads to israeli first and amman, jordan, to mean with arab leaders in the area as well. Reporter so many difficulty choices have to be made as the president shows up here, not only for Prime Minister netanyahu but also for President Biden. Thank you for your reporting on what is to come and what has already happened in this country. Dana, i want to toss it back to you. I cannot help but say this and i probably shouldnt but it is difficult from our Vantage Point here in israeli to see the dysfunction that is happening back there in the United States when there is a real crisis here, a war going on here, to see things just unfolding the way they are where congress cant get it together in the United States. It is quite disappointing. That sentiment is not just coming abroad but coming inside the United States capitol from members on both sides of the aisle. Very deep frustrating with the dysfunction bought us to this moment. Two weeks without a formal speaker of the house. As we are looking at the house floor, we should tell our viewers that what we are looking at is a roll call effectively to get everybody in to the House Chamber and, most importantly, to let Everybody Know who is going to be there and how many votes there will be and that will help determine what a majority actually is. As we look at that and wait for this Roll Call Vote to be completed, i want to bring in my panel here with me. Doug, i start with you, because when i was covering capitol hill fulltime, you, for a a while, was working inside the House Republican leadership. You certainly never witnessed anything like this but it certainly youve been involved in some of the tumult in the past and nothing like we are seeing now. I know youre in touching with some people on the floor. What are you hearing . One, they have never been in this situation either. You covered a lot of what is called opening day of congress and celebratory days and people bring their children On The House Floor. This is not the that day. There is nervousness and cautious optimism and cautious that jordan will get through if not a first vote but a second vote. What is important is the alphabet. Not the no votes early on jordan but you remember the john boehner 2013 election very well. Blackburn not present and we were nervous because parlor games going on within and outside of the chamber. That would happen here as well. She said in her office to bring the threshold down to make it easier for boehner to win did you. Once it was clear that john boehner was clear to win, here we are, fully supportive. Scott, you are close with the leader on The Other Side of the capitol, mitch mcconnell. You worked for him. What is idoes this tell you whe the Republican Party is right now . Jim jordan made his name as flamethrower and disrupter and now the guy trying to convince enough of his fellow republicans he is mr. Unity . Its interesting. Two things come to mind for me. One is the nature of the job changing. If he gets it, essentially, he has been a Television Personality for most republicans. That is why he has such a large natural following because of his appearances on fox news. He is not known on the hill as governing tactician. He is also not a political tactician. Kevin mccarthy, he came from the political mechanics he operated Behind The Scenes, including fundraising and not the jordan brand either. He is a messaging guy and what he does and he does it on television and one of the onmessage. Its changing nature of the job. You contrast of what you get in the senate. They are not Talking Heads and or legislators second. They are legislators first. The way they approach the contrast of the leadership if they go with jordan is fascinating because all of these guys have to get in a room pretty soon and keep the government open and something jordan is telling people he wants to do, he is not a part of the group that wants to shut it down. Remarkable given what he was not even ten years ago. Ashley, you are the democrat here. And i am hearing from democrats who are focused on 2024 and taking back the house, that they would be just fine. Hang on. Reporter if he falters, would you be you make a comeback . [ inaudible ]. Manu . Its dana, manu. If you can hear me, i know you just were speaking to Kevin Mccarthy who was ousted two weeks ago. Did he tell anything how he thinks this is going to go . Okay. He cant hear me. Welcome to live tv where we have a lot of drama and we dont know how things are going to go. By the way, i know he was talking to Kevin Mccarthy. You still hear from some members of this conference, this idea that if this all falls apart, there is a few people th