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We mourn the loss of innocent palestinian lives like the entire world. I was outraged and saddened by the enormous loss of life yesterday at the hospital in gaza. Based on the information weve seen it appears that it was the result of an errant rocket fire in gaza. Outrage has been pouring over in cities throughout the middle east, renewing possibilities that the conflict could spread wider throughout the region. We want to begin with Jeremy Diamond with me now. Lets talk about what the idf is saying. There was a Press Conference this morning at around 9 15. The head of Public Information was giving it. Talk about what israel presented. They presented a number of pieces of evidence that the u. S. Is backing. The u. S. Has their own sources of intelligence as well. What israel is presenting, they claim they have intercepted conversations between militants inside gaza talking about the fact that it was a palestinian rocket that misfired. They say the pieces of the rocket left behind are consistent with rockets from hamas or Islamic Jihad, not from israel. Thats right. Then israel compiled its own evidence including surveillance from a drone after the impact happened that they say shows that its not something that would have occurred from an air force strike. One of the main pieces of evidence, one that we can verify the most easily, is the fact that theres no crater in these images that the idf presented. If a bomb was dropped from a fighter jet, there would be a large crater. They say i asked one of the questions all right, how do you explain so many people could have died from this, that the explosion was so massive . They said this rocket was at its initial stage of departure and had a lot of fuel that would have caused this massive fire ball. This is a question of credibility as well for the idf. There have been instances in the past where theyve not been truthful or presented a different version of events and ultimately changed their mind. I asked the admiral that question. Listen. Reporter Jeremy Diamond, cnn. Im wondering if you can explain how an Islamic Jihad rocket could have caused this much death and destruction . Second, i would like you to address the question of credibility. Frankly the idf has a less than perfect track record with the issue of credibility. The Israeli Government initially claimed it was armed Palestinian Militants who killed the journalist, which we know is not true. Why should the world trust you now . Because of the importance of credibility and in the past we had our ourselves were fast to go to conclusion. This is why in this event we took the time. Took us more than five hours. We wanted to double check everything, make sure we were credible. Again, we wanted to double check everything, make sure were credible opposed to the other events you mentioned. The admiral came back to this idea of credibility. It seemed to be an acknowledgment theyve not always been credible. Theyre picking and choosing their moments when they provide explanations. Were still waiting for an explanation of the shelling in Southern Lebanon that appeared to have killed journalists. Whether or not it was israeli shelling or not we have not yet confirmed. The National Security council put out a statement in the United States saying that their own analysis of their intelligence backs up the conclusion that this was a misfire of an Islamic Jihad rocket. Thats because, in addition to all the evidence i talked about, theres evidence of tracking the actual rockets that were fired, seeing the trajectory. Theres some footage from various News Channels that shows the rockets being fired. Weve not independently verified this yet and palestinian officials are adamant it was an israeli air strike. Were seeing countries like jordan that has blamed israel, theyre not backing down that it was israel responsible for the strike. Thanks, jeremy. Now to natasha bertran. What can you tell us about the u. S. Governments Current Assessment about the intelligence their own Current Assessment about this blast . Reporter anderson, you referenced the National Security council statement. It said, while we continue to collect information our Current Assessment based on analysis over imagery, intercepts and opensource information is that israel is not responsible for the explosion in gaza. This statement did not say who they do believe is responsible, but President Biden said in remarks this morning, quote, based on the information weve seen it appears the result of an rrorist group in gaza. A officials told us at cnn it appears to have come from a rocket launched by palestinian Islamic Jihad. The u. S. Has been examining a lot of intelligence that the israelis provided. That began as soon as the attack happened. The israelis started to collect information and shared it with the u. S. Intelligence community who took that and examined that along u. S. Intel assets including overhead satellite injury, blast analysis, looking at the crater or lack thereof, the radius of this explosion and all of this, were told, is pointing to the conclusion that an israeli air strike was likely not the culprit of this. U. S. Has examined the intercepted conversations that the israelis provided allegedly between two hamas militants discussing this errant rocket attack. This is all preliminary. The u. S. Emphasized that this is not a final assessment and the statement made clear the u. S. Is continuing to gather information about this. One thing thats tough about this is you cant have independent investigators on the ground to examine this because of the situation in gaza. The information remains ongoing. The preliminary assessment said it was not an israeli air strike. I want to point out that we get used to hearing Air Raid Sirens here and seeing the Iron Dome Intercept Rockets Being fired. The rockets being fired from gaza are being fired from civilian areas, buildings in residential communities. Theyre being moved around and fired from the city itself. If, in fact, Islamic Jihad had a barrage of rockets going over the hospital, it gives you an indication of if, in fact, that is the case and it was an errant rocket that fell, the sickening nature of the conflict here that they would use that not accept any form of responsibility and use that to enflame populations all throughout the region. I want to go to ben wedeman in Southern Lebanon. Ben, lets talk about this outrage weve seen over the last 12, 18 hours in the middle east. The u. S. Embassy in beirut advised americans to avoid the embassy. What have you been seeing . Reporter anderson, in the last 24 hours there have been fairly large protests at the Bottom Of The Hill leading to the American Embassy which is about half a mile up the hill. They were throwing rocks and fireworks at lebaneses security forces. They were responding with tear gas and water canons. They didnt manage to break through the barrier thats always in place at the Bottom Of The Hill to prevent exactly this sort of eventuality. The u. S. Embassy in beirut is highly fortified and employees of the Embassy American staff in the embassy cant simply walk outside. Theyre under very strict restrictions when it comes to moving and beirut. The mounting tensions in lebanon and across the region are starting to have an impact. The State Department has told families of Embassy Employees and nonemergency personnel they can leave the country on a case by case basis. Saudi arabia today advised all its nationals in lebanon to leave the country immediately. France and the uk told their nationals dont come to lebanon unless you absolutely have to because the worry is not only of tensions in the street, but, of course, the possibility of an outbreak of a war on the border between israel and lebanon. Anderson . Lets talk about whats going on at the border between israel and lebanon. Has there been any uptick today . Reporter yes. Weve counted so far six strikes by hezbollah on Israeli Military positions. Mid afternoon for about two hours, from what we could hear, there was a pretty constant exchange. We could hear volleys of rockets being fired out of lebanon and israeli artillery we assume being fired back. Its important to note that hezbollah is very specific in its targets on the border. Theyre focusing on Israeli Military locations, in particular on Observation Towers and surveillance equipment. In many areas theyve used rifles to take out the cameras that the israelis have installed on the fence and in some areas the wall. Those cameras peering into lebanon. Anderson . Ben wedeman, thanks so much. President biden warning the government and people of israel to not be consumed, his words, by rage in the aftermath of the attacks of hamas. He talked about the u. S. experience in the wake of 9 11 and mistakes made. Up next, how his trip is being received in israel and throughout the region. President biden had a daunting task with todays Wartime Visit to israel. He aimed to show americas unwavering support for israel and also to help this from spreading to other countries. He delivered that message by drawing on americas experience after 9 11. Justice must be done, but i caution while you feel that rage, dont be consumed by it. After 9 11, we were enraged in the United States. While we sought justice and got justice, we also made mistakes. The vast majority of palestinians are not hamas. Hamas does not represent the palestinian people. The president s urgency was clear. When a devastating Hospital Explosion Killed Hundreds shortly before the president headed off to the middle east, this incident sparked anger and confusion across the region and caused arab leaders to cancel their meeting with President Biden. Lets discuss this with former Obama Campaign Foreign Policy adviser. Thank you for being with us. After President Bidens visit, israeli officials confirmed they wouldnt block humanitarian aid to gaza. How can the u. S. Verify it will get there and what can the u. S. Do to get u. S. Civilians out of gaza . I think were having an audio d issue. Is that question to me . Yes. President biden was right to go to israel. It was an important visit. We see the risks of going to a Crisis Situation in the midst of a crisis thats changing quickly because he committed to the trip when the Hospital Attack happened. That caused the arab leaders he was supposed to meet on this trip, including the leader of egypt and jordan, to cancel making it a bit awkward. However, i dont think this trip will be remembered for the Hospital Attack. Theres growing news and support for the fact that Palestinian Militants were responsible, not the israelis. What i think it will be known for is if biden helps israel to allow more humanitarian aid into gaza, if he helps convince them to work with egyptians to allow aid to go through, if they permit some Palestinian Refugees leave through rafa and at the same time delivering the message that the Secretary Of State and the secretary of defense delivered before him, which is unwavering support for israels right to attack hamas militants and get justice from hamas militants, but also delivering the message they should be cautious about injuring civilians. We have dan back with us. Dan, you have leaders of the egypt, jordan, the Palestinian Authority canceling meetings with biden in the wake of this attack. They seem to, you know, try to be saving some face and not making it necessarily as if thats the reason, that theyre trying to save this for another occasion since the president of egypt had to go back and deal with the situation. If President Biden cant get those meetings that are so key especially with the egyptians and jordanians, does this trip fail . Part of it. The trip was supposed to show some balance. Joe biden has been clearly on israels side since the massacre on october 7th. Israel is determined to roll into gaza. Joe biden is telling israel as a friend, dont cause too much damage, dont cause too many civilian deaths. Then joe biden wanted to go to jordan and meet with those three arab leaders of the egypt, jordan and the palestinians. They didnt want to meet him because of the horrible tragedy that happened at the Gaza Hospital. Now President Biden announced that u. S. Intelligence believes that, in fact, israel was not responsible for all the deaths at that Gaza Hospital. Frankly arab countries dont believe it. Ive been hearing so much anger still from muslim and arab countries. The u. S. Has a real problem, but for now has clearly decided to be on israels side, but arrange those humanitarian corridors which can help people. David, to dans point about anger in arab nations, bidens visit was to deter other actors in the region, whether hezbollah or iran from getting involved in the conflict. How effective do you think he acted as president of the United States going in and warning off any potential attack from other actors there . Well, i think its really important that he went for that reason. Its also important that hes already sent one Aircraft Carrier to the region and hes sending another one to the region. That increased Military Presence by the u. S. Is not for gaza. Its really to send a warning to iran and to send a warning to hezbollah that if they attack and open up a Northern Front in israel, that the u. S. Might have to get involved. Thats one of the only ways the u. S. Would get involved militarily in this situation is if hezbollah attacks and it would likely be appropriate for the u. S. To do air strikes against hezbollah and thats a consideration. Of course, there are Behind The Scenes Talks between President Biden and netanyahu about planning for every contingency including that and other actions by iran that iran might take in order to enflame passions in the region. I would also mention simmering under the fact of all this is that iran is still trying to get Nuclear Weapons and the u. S. Is trying to make sure iran doesnt get those Nuclear Weapons. Dan, we heard the president warning about making mistakes, something the u. S. Did in the wake of 9 11. They made mistakes. Biden supports israel. Hes voicing american support for israel. At a certain point does the number of civilians killed in gaza become untenable and what is his message on this . Well, this is very different for israel than previous what i call mini wars between israel and gaza. On occasion israel has reluctantly rolled into gaza. A lot of israeli troops were killed. Israel is dependent on the iron dome to shoot down rogts from gaza so there wouldnt have to be a Ground Invasion. This time a Ground Invasion is absolutely planned. Israel is determined to get rid of hamas, that means to overthrow the government of gaza city. Thats what the u. S. Did after 9 11. They went into afghanistan in search of al qaeda and osama bin laden. In iraq they went in and toppled saddam hussein. So joe biden is saying dont let the rage take over. The rage not just over the killings, the rapes, but now 199 hostages, israelis being held in gaza. Israel wants to rescue them. Maybe they should let negotiations get folks released. I do

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