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And welcome to cnn news rooms continuing coverage of israel at war, im michael holmes. Its 1 a. M. In atlanta, 8 a. M. In gaza where estimated one million more than that have been displaced by the war between israel and hamas but theres been a major news break regarding hostages. American woman and daughter undergoing medical evaluation in israel after being released by hamas on friday. Judith and her daughter were visiting family at a kibbutz when they were taken hostage by hamas two weeks ago. Lambs is believed to have holding 200 hostages. Idf spokesperson had there to say after the women were released. These are the first two and what we see and what we know is that hamas is trying to paint itself as a Human Rights Organization now by having given back two of the hostages. Rockets are raining down on israel as im speaking and lets get back all the hostages and then we can speak with them. Cnn katie joins me live from london with more on what was a surprising development. Katie tell us more about how it all came about and what if anything we know about what hamas might have wanted in return. Well, michael as always, Hostage Negotiations are incredibly complicated delicate and many parts of it not disclosed for safety of those involved but clearly there was a diplomatic success and really something the family had been hoping for praying for throughout this ordeal. Have a listen to what natalies father said about her release. Ive been waiting for this moment for a long time, two weeks. I havent been sleeping for two weeks will tonight im going to sleep good. I spoke with my daughter earlier today. She sounds very goods. She looks very good. She was very happy and shes waiting to come home. Now, clearly as to why this happened, why these particular hostages were released there are still many questions. Israel is saying it is because of Military Pressure theyve put on hamas. Hamas is offering saying its because of humanitarian reasons that the mother judith had ill health and that was the reason for release. Israeli forces say there was no humanitarianism in hamas and are calling them monsters this, back and forth we are seeing throughout the conflict that clearly is a sign of hope this is possible and we Anoka Tar The Country has been a key role in mediating, the u. S. Says theyve been involved idf said from john kirby defense spokesperson said theyve been very involved but mentioned qatar made the negotiations happen. In terms of the rest of the hostages that is going to be the priority for the u. S. Administration and of course the Israeli Administration next. Michael. Yes, as you point out at the beginning a lot of chardz are close to chests in situations like this but what do we know about the negotiating and the status of the negotiations for other hostages . Yes, theres a lot thats probably happening Behind Closed Doors that we are not going to be aware of. Ghee hamas put out a Statement Talking what they term friendly countries egypt annika tar to discuss release of foreign nationals. We know there are u. S. Officials on the ground in israel israel helping make negotiations one saying they are hoping the release of these two made lead to the release of others and noted that nothing was exchanged for these two with lambs which is quite noticeable but in terms of what happened to the rest of the 200 hostages its a huge number of people and worth noting 20 of them are under 18 and children. Not only are the negotiations happening but the environment around them is incredibly fluid and we are seeing dire humanitarian situation on the ground in gaza so whats happening to these hostages whether theyre not getting enough foods and water while they wait for elves unclear at there stage. Michael. Great reporting katie in london forries. With this threatening to spill over into the west bank and lebanon palestinian authorities report more than a dozen people including 5 children were killed by israeli airstrikes during a raid on a refugee bank in the west bank saying israels northern border has been under pressure from lebanon since the war started. Residents near the border are advised to evacuate. Israel says about A Hundred Thousand Israeli Citizens have been been evacuated from their homes the past two weeks. And with me now from seoul, south korea is military analyst Malcolm Davis of the australian Strategic Policy to talk about the military side of things. Good to see you. What will be the Israeli Military calculus for when many would say when if they go in on the ground what are the politte considerations and how is It Complications by the hostages who remain . Well thanks, michael. Look. I think things are probably being delayed while we try this Hostage Negotiation Approach to see if more hostages can be released. But ultimately i dont think its going to be a case of the israelis choosing not to go in on the grounds. I think for the israelis to achieve their goal of the destruction of hamas and the removal of the threat it poses to israel they have to go in on the ground. But the challenges i think in terms of when they do it will be deck dated initially by diplomatic negotiations and secondly when is the operational battle space the environment really ready for an israeli advancement thats what the focus i think probably now is that the israelis are preparing shaping the battle space but they cant remain poised forever. They have to be able to be unleashed at some point once it becomes clear theres nothing else to be gained through negotiations. Are there risks of an incursion being an emotional response to what was a brutal Terror Attack rather than a strategic move with defined achievable goals . What are the risks in that . Look. I think every israeli, including every israeli soldier probably feels a sense of outrage and determination to fight back against hamas after what happened on october 7th. No one is doubting that but the Israeli Military are a highly professional, highly trained military. They will undertake Military Operations to achieve strategic operation analyzed and tactical outcomes that are in the interests of the Israeli Government. And theyll do it in a government that as much as possible follows the laws of Armed Conflict so it wont be a case of going in and slaughtering palestinians, it will be a case of israelis trying to diminnish between hamas on the one land and innocent Palestinian Civilians on the other, and the environment on the ground the nature of the train including a dense urban terrain will playing that exceedingly difficult and youve seen israeli airstrikes going in to attack hamas targets but unfortunately they are colocated with civilian areas. So its going to be very difficult for the rail toys do this without causing further civilian casualties but i dont see the israelis going in for revenge. I see them going in for clear Strategic Military goals which is the destruction of hamas its removal from power in gaza and the end of the threat that it poses to israel. How would hamas have prepared in anticipation of an Rally Operation . I mean they would have known this was coming after what they perpetrated. Advantages for the home force in this kind of scenario, what are they and what tactics might hamas employ and what preparations made . As you say, hamas are on the defensive and is quite often stronger to defend than going on the offensive, and in particular, in a dense urban environment, some of the advantages are with hamas. They can essentially lie in wait. They can establish large numbers of booby traps, ieds, mines, they with establish positions from which snipers can be employed to best effect but the most disturbing thing of all is they can utilize Palestinian Civilians as Human Shields and they can utilize hostages as Human Shields so what im saying is hamas can hide behind Palestinian Civilians and hostages to try and avoid israeli attack. And if anything, the hamas people want as many civilian casualties as possible. So i think the challenge for the israelis is going street to street house to house in a very dense urban environment all at the time trying to avoid running into these traps that the hamas group have set, trying to avoid killing civilians needlessly, and thats going to be a real challenge and hamas people i think will try to extract i think every possible Tactical Advantage from the terrain and the environment. Malcolm always good to see you. Thanks so much. Malcolm dave nice thank you. Israel saysets prepared for the possibility of its war against hamas becoming a broadser conflict. Idf spokesperson told cnn has called up around 300,000 reservists to be ready in case wider regional tensions flared and idf has enforced troops along the northern border with lebanon where hezbollah has increasingly clashed with the israeli politte military over the past week. Anything that happens from their sovereign territory theyre responsible for and will be held accountable for. This is a sovereign state. It has control over its borders and they have the responsibility to make sure that terrorists like hezbollah a Terrorist Army does not launch attacks against israel. The Palestinian Authority Prime Minister has told cnn that blind support for israel has become a license for killing. Mohammed says israels mood for revenge after the Terror Attacks could result in the death of thousands more Palestinian Civilians and he told Cnns Becky Anderson hes particularly fearful as israel prepares to launch a potential grounds invasion of gaza. The condemnation should be of killing every human being that does not deserve to diechl more than 600,000 children have been slaughtered, more than 700 women. The general mood in israel today is a mood of revenge and i think this appetite for killing should be stop. No one single human being would like to see innocent people killed. You would be willing to say you condemn the attacks on october 7. Why . Well you see, palestinian story does not start on octoberth. Palestinian catastrophe has been there for 75 years. We have been crying loud and we have been shouting loud and clear, we need a solution and what has happened yesterday is yesterday. The mood for revenge and Ground Operation which is going to cost 10,000 palestinian lives this is where the focus should be and we should stopped. Your shocked surprised by the ferocity of the attack . Everybody was shocked. This is something that has been unprecedent by all means. The Israeli Government has to be held responsible for what happened. The Israeli Government wants to keep people in gaza isolated. The people there were depressed. The people of gaza were unemployed and we have to make to provide for Meaningful Life to the people. That was not there. Gaza was a zone that was shrinking every single day. The situation was shocking to everybody but the magnitude of distraction that we have seen today in gaza is something that is a criminal act. Israel Defense Minister said his troops will soon see the inside of gaza, and i quote him on that. As israels Military Reddies for the next stage just how concerned are you . Very concerned. If israeli army goes into gaza with a Ground Operation, then our anticipation that thousands, additional thousands, maybe 10,000, 15,000 palestinians will be killed so we are more than concerned. What if president Mahmoud Abbas walked out or was it to be a scheduled summit in jordan . What happened at the hospital was a horrific scene will we ask one question. Is United States ready to say to the israelis stop the incursion, stop the attacks . We were not sloord on that. Therefore any meeting became meaningless and we the jordanians and the americans did fully understand that president abbas had to walk away and they also paid condolences to the loss of lives at the hospital. The u. S. Has been absolutely clear that israel has a right to defend itself and it will support israel in its efforts to destroy hamas, whatever it takes. Your thoughts on that. The support of israel blindly a license for killing. I hope that United States does not go into that direction. Israel is not in existential threat. Parties should sit down and Work Together for a peaceful solution. Encouraging israel to destroy the people of gaza is not going to bring a solutioning look at the pictures and look at the pictures. Who lab killed in gaza in Women Children Old Men women, this is not a war on hamas. This is a war on Palestinian People wherever they are in Gaza West Bank and jerusalem. What is the the role of the United States securing a fair and just future for the Palestinian People . If they have the will they can do it, but very unfortunately im very frank with you to say that i dont think the current American Administration last the political will to end the conflict. Theyre managing it without them. Without them there is no solution. With them only there, is no solution. So what you need is a collective international effort. Those who have landed in tel aviv to show support for israel. Unfortunately have been given the greenest of the green light for israel to continue its attack on gaza. International support should be for peace. International support should not be for aggression. When we come back here on the program no demonstrations in the pleased where on the people people protest israel strikes on gaza and the palestinians caught in the middle. Also still to come Israeli Forces say stle worried about a possible hot spot for hamas in the west bank. We will be right back. The Israel Defense forces warning about a hot spot for hamas in the west back. The newest referee camp in tukaram, Israeli Force left the area after 12 people were killed in a raid 20 arrested. They say it was part of operation to get more information on hamas. Protestors meanwhile in full force against the israel recent attacks on gaza. [shouting] now this is at the rafa Border Crossing between egypt and gaza where humanitarian aid banned for gaza has been held up for days. U. S. President joe biden says its finally expected to reach gaza this weekend or some of it as conditions worsen, resources In Gaza Dry Up and israel continues its airstrikes against hamas. More and more protests are happening across the middle east. Senior International Correspondent ben wedeman is in beirut with a closer look. Death to america. Death to israel shouts the plaster of ceremonies who rally beirut southern suburbs. To a crowd of a few hundred supporters of hezbollah and shia ally who dont want to be passive by standers to the blushed in gaza. They want the resistance to liberate palestine. Words and slogans like these are not new but at the death toll in gaza soars, passions are reaching the Boiling Pointerier there week twice process in order of beirut tried to reach the American Embassy stopped only by fire police with tear gas and water cannon. Image of unauthorize evidence demonstrations to stop the israel war in gaza, in georgia where roots are traced back to palestine they call in the government to shut the israeli and american embassies but in lebanon its not only protests on the border with israelites just a notch below war. In South Lebanon every day hezbollah is striking israeli targets 4, 5, 6 times a day. Mere in beirut theyre holding rallies talking about doing more but so far just talk. Hezbollah main backer iran starting to open a new front. Notely silent is lebrohezbollah hasnt said a thing since the war began. The answer would come later he advised. Daily hezbollah attacks on the border a hint what the answer could be the ben wedeman. Joe biden speaks with two american hostages freed by hamas. More on how the white house is reacting to their release, when we come back. Is it possible my network could take my business to the next level . It is with Comcast Business. Powering all your devices with gigspeed wifi. And you get fast downloads and uploads. Pick it up pick it up oh we got this because its powered by The Next Generation 10g network. More speed for your business . Its not just possible. Its happening. Get started for 59. 99 a month for 12 months. Plus, ask how to get an 800 prepaid card with a qualifying internet bundle. Comcast business, powering possibilities. The brother of one of the two american hostages freed by hamas says his sister may be heading home to t

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