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CNNW CNN July 4, 2024

For the prosecution shows and tells how donald trump operates like a mob boss. Thats tonight on newsnight good evening. Im abby phillip in new york and tonight, cnn puts a voice and a face to the key facts that you could read on paper in that case against donald trump. Meet brian butler. Hes also known as employee number five in the criminal indictment from special counsel jack smith. Butler is not a random person who trump can suddenly claim. He doesnt know he knows trump and it has known him for 21 years since he took a job as a seasonal valet at maralago. He has years of pictures and messages with everyone important in the trump orbit. He worked for he worked hundreds of p. Stance feet away from carlos de oliviera, the other maralago employee . He was indicted alongside trump, and they took lightly walks together. They were friends, but their paths now look very different. They oliviera is alleged to have lied to investigators. Meanwhile, butler has cooperated and he is helping prosecutors to fill in these gaps. About how trump and his coconspirators mishandled classified materials and how trump it is. Employees lied to federal investigators about those documents, about how trump sought out loyalty from all of his people butler corroborates two important episodes that are told in that indictment first, how trump told an australian billionaire classified submarine secrets. And also how boxes were moved. The very same day that attorneys for the former president swore in, arguments. So they had turned them all over all of the documents that bore classified markings back to the government and then what happened is walt left before me and he never goes directly to the plane. Hes either in the motorcade when he goes there with the boss, which the former president and i remember telling him he left the club with i didnt know what he had in his vehicle, but he waited for me at a nearby business and i told him i would tell him when i was leaving maralago. So i left maralago. I texted him, hey, im on my way he followed me. He pulled out and got behind me. We got to the airport. I ended up loading all the luggage i had he had a bunch of boxes. You noticed that he had thought they were the boxes that were in the indictment, the white bankers boxes. Thats what i remember loading. And did you have any time any idea at the time that there was potentially Us National Security secrets in his box and no clue no. I had no clue. I mean, we were just taking them out of the escalate, piling them up. I remember they were all stacked on top of each other and then were lifting them up to the pilots but. What might be just as revealing is how butler also fleshes out how trump works and the realtime efforts by the former president to make sure that the people around him remained loyal in the face of a federal investigation . You. Got a call from walt nauta after the search happened. What did he say to you . So i was on the my way, did my Birthday Weekend down at the hardrock and i think i texted him like, hey, you know, well talk like in an hour, i was with people or something so i called him back and hes like, hey, someone just wants to make sure carlos is good. Im with carlos. Were at the hardrock by the food court and his phone rings and its the former president it takes to call where were standing in the food court. I think we went to sit down and he i cant remember how long the conversation was, but i know at the end of the conversation when they hung up, carlo said hes gonna get me an attorney and joining me now is miles taylor. Hes a former trump homeland securitys official who penned the infamous now anonymous oped that warned about donald trump his book, blowback, a warning to save democracy from trumps revenge is out in paperback next month miles, it has always been alleged that trump basically acts like a mob kingpin this, and that anecdote, especially at the end, there doesnt exactly dispute that not only does it not dispute it, abby, i think it paints a very vivid picture. One of the more vivid pictures weve seen about how trump does indeed operate like a mob boss. And the significance i think of brian butlers testimony here really cant be overstated. Here. Because a person that was in Donald Trumps orbit for years and years, decades. In fact, and puts people at the scene at these critical junctures. This is not someone whos got secondhand or thirdhand information. Hes there on the ground and thats whats going to make it really tough. For trump and his allies to disavow butler. Now, theyre typical order of operations here is when someone close to them turns against them, they do Everything Possible to paint that person as an outsider, someone who wasnt privy to Sensitive Information and sensitive places, but its clear that butler was privy to those things. He was probably those things for years. And in fact, was literally the man with his hands on the boxes when this case first broke open, that was the thing we were saying would be the closest we might get to a smoking gun is someone who saw the boxes moved or Security Camera footage and it does seem like brian butler really has competed hello. And testimony to that effect. And you alluded to this, but theres another side of being one who comes out and turns on trump. And its a dark side. What can mr. Butler now expect now that hes put a face to these accusations, hes put himself out there for trump and his fans to attack well, abby, i do think that his disclosures are brave because it takes a lot to turn against president of the United States or a former president of the United States, especially when its one that is this as vindictive as donald trump is, not just me, but a lot of other people i know whove done this have lost homes and jobs and life savings and their families have been threatened for doing this. And in this case, a very, very significant case of National Security, brian butler has turned again as his former boss, and he can expect those types of repercussions and im sure that donald trump and his allies will try to do the same thing in mob boss. Like fashion as theyve done to other people. So i would commend him, but i also think theres a bigger lesson here, abby, and thats for people who are still in the expresident s or a bit that its never too late to do the right thing, and that its possible to come forward and have a clear conscience instead of a criminal conviction, which is the choice that brian butler has made is to try to avoid going down with some of those folks around donald trump who appear to have engaged in potentially unlawful kfir and instead come forward with that information. So i suspect thats not the last of people like brian butler. Yeah, we will see if more people do come out and theres so many cases now, there are so many opportunities here. I do miles want to get your take on Something Else as cnns jim sciutto. He just added some more texts sure. Some more detail to a story about how donald trump allegedly praised hitler. The reason, according to trumps former chief of staff, john kelly, who you know well, was that trump lamented that hitler, as kelly recounted, maintained his senior staffs loyalty. Ill trump himself often did not. Have you ever heard trump talk about hitler . Do you ever recall john kelly relate these kinds of stories about trump . Well look, id never heard trump personally mentioned hitler, but i dont doubt jims reporting for a second in its certainly strikes me as making a whole lot of sense that my former boss, john kelly, would have lamented trump talking about hitler. In fact, kelly had one said to me before in his view, quote trump trump was a very, very evil man. And that was in part because of the types of people he praised, which in particular was autocrats. Trump really had a deep affinity for autocratic leaders, whether it was Vladimir Putin or zhizhen ping and russia or kim jong un in north korea, he lauded these individuals who had extraordinary power and the power to enforce their edicts. This was pretty chilling to john kelly, to myself, really to anyone who would witness trump, the leader of the free world, regularly prays, despots. That was something that became a pretty consistent care perked her flaw that folks witness with donald trump. And so abby, it doesnt strike me as shocking at all that he would be someone who would look up to hitler as an idol instead of someone who should be an enemy of history. Well, his praise of autocrats didnt just happen behind closed doors. He it says it right out in public, including just on friday meeting with viktor orban of hungary as well in maralago. Miles taylor, we appreciate you joining us tonight. Thank you. Thanks abby and tonight, donald trump said something really important. It might be the most important run on sentence of this campaign. And its a sentence to trust me, joe biden will do his best to make sure voters here, over and over again. So first of all, there is a lot you can do in terms of entitlements, in terms of cutting and in terms of also the theft and the bad management of its adelman is tremendous bad management of entitlements is tremendous amounts those things, numbers of things you can do did you catch that . While the Biden Campaign did they saw it and nearly instantaneously spat out a new digital ad. The Trump Campaign counters that the former president plans to be a strong protector of entitlements not cut it. And that he was struck a strong protector of both Social Security and medicare while in office. But thats not for lack of trying. Trumps budgets in office did not want to leave Social Security and medicare alone. In 2020, His Budget Spelled Out In Black And White that he wanted to spend trillions of dollars less on both programs. That today was not an aberration. Its a pattern for trump and his campaign of talking out of both sides of their mouth on this issue. What exactly will happen to these programs that millions of americans rely on if he becomes president haley support to 23 National Sales tax. And she wants to gut medicare and Social Security if nikki haley got away, most seniors it would work their entire lives right up until the end. And then not live long enough to receive the benefits they earned and paid for. In addition to wanting to cut Social Security and raised the minimum age to at least 70 and medicare, he wanted to absolutely destroy it rhino Ron Desanctimonious is delivering the biggest Insurance Company bailout and Globe Plus History The Socialist democrats are trying to destroy American Health care and try to destroy your Social Security that wont happen with me. Were not touching medicare. We want to keep medicare. Were not touching Social Security and we will always protect your medicare and we will always protect your Social Security entitlements ever be on your thing. At some point they will be. We have tremendous growth. Were going to have tremendous growth this next year. Itll be toward the end of the year. The growth is going to be incredible. And at the right time we will take a look at that. Thats actually the easiest of all things. If you look because its such a willing to do some things that you said you wouldnt do in the past though in terms of look, we cannot become a great nation until weve come rich again. And you know, we cant afford Social Security, we cant afford anything. Im going to save Social Security, save medicare medicaid, and Social Security without cuts, have to do it. Im not going to cut so personal security like every other republican, and im not going to cut medicare or medicaid and joining me now is former Senior Adviser to president obama, dan pfeiffer. Dan, how big of a deal are these comments . I mean look, it might have gone under the radar, but the Biden Campaign was paying attention i think its a huge deal, you know, a lot of the things that trump does, his gas, you re to things he says the kind of things to get people, the press and active, engaged democratic myself all worked up but are pretty disconnected. From the everyday lives of the Working Class voters who are going to decide this election Social Security and medicare go right to the core of what these voters care the most about and dental trauma is open the door on an issue in which poll after poll shows he has a very real vulnerability with the exact voters who have helped propel him to his position in this race. I think its dianne to you, i think is really impressive. The Biden Campaign is often running with it and theyre going to try to drive this every single day through the election. So very important moment for the good will this even sink in though i mean, we just played a decade of clips from tunnel trump where hes saying two things and then he says the part about touching Social Security and medicare very quietly. Are voters going to hear that . Frankly, is the Biden Campaign going to be able to make the case that they want to make here well they have aid months to do it. Thats the good news, right . There, starting right off the bat, were gonna theres gonna be billions of dollars in ads. Theres going to be debates. Was me opportunities to do it. And yes, donald trump will say hes not going to cut so secure medicare. But he said that 2016. And then as you pointed out, he put cuts to Social Security medicare in his budget every year he was president heres what we know. Donald trump, once a Console Security medicare, he said it to as many times he put in his budgets. If he gets elected, the most likely scenario is he goes back to the white house with republican house, republican senate. Probably can speaker of the house, longtime supporter of kidney cell security, Medicare Put A Budget Out when hes share the freedom, Freedom Caucus to privatized social medicare, to raise the eligibility age low security, both of the white guys named john running to replace mitch mcconnell, longtime supporters as a Social Security cuts. So this is a very what the important choice here is, if you elect donald trump its cuts to social carry or a very real danger if youd like joe biden, he will protect them. He said so in the State Of The Union on thursday night just on the reality of all of this though, i mean, is President Bidens promise to not cut these entitlements is that serious considering that the facts are that in short order, theyre not going to be able to make their commitments to american seniors why is biden put out in his budget today and talked on the State Of The Union, the difference between biden and trump in terms of dealing with our Deficit Dealer and getting our fiscal house in order. Is that one of Donald Trumps first act . In his second term in the white house will be to renew the 2,000,000,000,000 tax cut that he gave corporations very wealthy. Biden is going to repeal that tax that hes not going to sign it back on spurred keep it for middle and Working Class people. But, but hes going to save a bunch of money and hes gonna have not going to he will balance our budget. Who he will get our fiscal house in order and he will do it without Console Security, medicare, thats a difference because joe biden, once youve raised taxes on the wealthy and corporations, not cut them all right, dan pfeiffer. Thanks very much for joining us on all of that thank you, abby. Next, the sex Trafficking Victim who alabama senator katie britt, sided in that state the union response. She is now speaking out why she says that the senator completely distorted her story. Plus, a president , biden effigy as beaten and kicked at a republican fundraiser in kansas. 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