And hearing really centers around this motion that his lawyers with the Innocence Project filed with the court. In that motion, they say that Scot Peterson has maintained his innocence for 20 years. And during that time, hes been working with investigators and lawyers theres and has discovered what they call this substantial new evidence which you had actually referenced earlier. We dont know what that evidence is, but they say that it does support his claims of innocence. So theyre looking at but the dna, they want some items tested again, retested, and then they also want some new items, new new items tested for dna and they think that there is something they are anderson that could prove his innocence. So we really dont know what to expect tomorrow. We know for sure that no doubt will see more motions filed, more hearings in this case before we know exactly if Scott Peterson will get a new trial. All right. Randi kaye. Thanks. The news continues right here on cnn outfront next, the breaking news, trump employee number five, breaking his silence and well hear from the man who was a key witness in the Marlon Lago Classified documents investigation tonight. Here what he has to say about moving trumps boxes of classified documents plus, he is a Software Engineer hired by trump Trumps Campaign to find voter fraud. And he found none give you all the details tonight as hes warning this evening, trump will try to overturn the election again if he doesnt win therell be my guest this hour and a passenger on that terrifying flight, the plummeted midair. Speaking out says bodies were flying everywhere hitting the ceiling, leaving blood the scene from the exorcist lets go outfront and good evening. Im erin burnett, outfront tonight. We begin with the breaking news, trumps employee number five, speaking out, the man who was only been known as trump employee number five in the classified documents indictment from jack smith, revealing his identity explaining for the first time how we helped move classified documents for trump. His name is brian butler, a long time chauffeur to trumps family . Now, butler spent about 20 years working for trump and he claims it was on june 3, 2022, when trumps personal aide, walt nauta, the name may be familiar, asked him if he could borrow butlers suv to move luggage from maralago to the former president s personal plane. Now that date is the same date that trumps attorneys met with the fbi, touring a Basement Storage Room to look for documents. Its the same day they signed a document saying they hunted for additional papers and found few butler telling Kaitlan Collins that the luggage he moved included the white bankers boxes in jack smiths indictment they were the boxes that were in the indictment. The white bankers boxes. Thats what i remember loading and did you have any time any idea at the time that there was potentially Us National Security secrets in those boxes . No clue no. I had no clue. I mean, we were just taking them out of the escalate, piling them up. I remember they were all stacked on top of each other and then were lifting them up to the pilots now, butler says he debated going public for months and only recently decided to speak out because he believes that voters should hear the truth about his former boss and the case before the november election and butlers role in all of this didnt end there. He was also involved in conversations about allegedly trying to destroy evidence of a crime at maralago according to jack smiths indictment, maralago property manager, Carlos De Oliviera also told trump employee number five, which of course we now know is brian butler that not want to do all of era to talk to trump employee number four, to see how long camera footage was stored. And we have a lot to get to tonight. I want to get to kaitlan, polands who has been working on this story with her sources to help break it. Shes outfront live near maralago and kaitlan. What more are you learning from butler we are in it is quite clear from what ryan butler has to say publicly now and also what he spoke to prosecutors about many times is that he is a window, a witness to the alleged obstruction. The allegations against donald trump, walt nauta, and Carlos De Olivera, that there was a coverup for trump because trump did not want to give those classified documents back to the federal government. That is no more apparent that its so obviously a parent in the indictment in that hes listed as trump employee five, and then hes also in speaking to Kaitlan Collins, able to say about how oh, he had this longtime friendship with carlos de oliveira, the third person who is a defendant with trump. And that friendship broke down the very last line in the indictment against all three of these men, including donald trump, when prosecutors are describing what happened, there, is they described a moment where brian butler was with Carlos De Oliviera and gets outreach from the other Code Defendant walt nauta asking brian butler, is carlos loyal . Is he going to remain loyal to trump . Butler assures him, yes, he will. This is my friend. He doesnt want to do anything to hurt his relationship with donald trump. And then trump calls Carlos De Olivera directly butler in his conversation with Kaitlan In Collins earlier today describe that taking place on a trip, a Birthday Celebration that he was having with his dear friend, Carlos De Oliviera when that call came in from donald trump. Heres a little more of what he said he takes the call where were standing in the food court. I think we went to sit down and he i cant remember how long the conversation was, but i know at the end of the conversation when they hung up, carlo said hes gonna get me an attorney did he tell you Anything Else that trump said to him . I didnt ask and i dont remember him saying Anything Else, but, you know, i was just told not that long, not too long before were getting him an attorney by walt, and then he gets the call that hes going to give them the internet aaron. So thats the last line in the narrative of the indictment, but the beginning of the end of the friendship of Carlos De Oliviera and brian butler. Now, they do not speak anymore. Carlos de olivera is charged with making a false statement to the fbi, is headed to trial alongside donald trump, brian butler phrase here speaking publicly and not using notably, an attorney within the trump legal universe, erin. All right. Kaitlan. Thank you very much. And i want to go now to ryan goodman, our legal analyst, stephanie grisham, the former Trump White House press secretary and david axelrod. Of course, the former Senior Adviser to president obama. So ryan a 20 year employee of the trumps, right. Who knows the habits, knows the proclivities knows what moves when coming out and talking about all these boxes, how important is the information that he is providing in this case . It seems to be incredibly important. Hes a direct witness and participant in a large part of the activities that are indicted. And so hes there when theyre talking about information that would be about deleting the Video Footage to hide it from the fbi. And the grand jury as alleged in the indictment hes there when they are loading trumps plane with the boxes before the fbi arrives at maralago. Same day. You find and to collect the documents thats huge. And he has no ax to grind. He seems have had a Good Relationship with the Trump Organization with trump himself for 20 years. And his best friends with one of the other codefendants. So it seems to be theres just telling the truths that he has an that could be very powerful and david butler told cnn that hes speaking publicly now because he believes voters should hear the truth before the november election. Obviously, the way that this case is moving right now from a legal perspective, it would appear very unlikely that we get that decision before the election that we know. So it may only be and just more snippets if individuals choose to speak out, do you think this makes a difference to voters look, i think at the margins, maybe i think that people who are paying attention to it will. But a couple of things about this. One is theres a reason why the press doesnt it as lawyers are working so hard to delay these trials, theyre trying to push them off past november because they understand that this case, the facts are very, very clear convictions would be damaging and a race that is marginal and could cost them the election. So theyre pushing this off. The second thing is tomorrow well, we have the her hearings and those are i think one of the reasons that the republicans are leaning so hard into all of this isnt just to talk about the question of age that her raised, but they want to muddy the waters. And you can see on social media, its like in reaction to this story, people saying, you know, biden did it, trump, did it trump gets indicted if thats his narrative. So im not sure that this alone will influence events if this thing goes to trial, his testimony sure. Could write it is important as you note though, that her which is the biden classified documents handling Special Counsel but that is gonna be tomorrow. Stephanie, let me play another exchange though. The butler had with kaitlan. Listen to this did you ever think to yourself, why were there so many boxes at maralago . For me, im just thinking out of the former president and he has a lot of stuff he likes the lug around with them and stephanie, i see you sort of smiling. I mean, you know, the lay of the random lay of the land around trump does that sort of ring true to you . I mean, was this a constant sort of shifting and moving of boxes like this you know, absolutely. I felt that that a lot of what he said ring true in the boxes was certainly one of them. I mean, all throughout our time at the white house, he would have his boxes there. There was brown boxes, but if we didnt get these specific big box is on every plane, on every air force, one on marine one, there would be held to pay, so he did like his boxes. Now, there were only two or three of them and there were newspaper clippings. It was not, you know, ten to 15 boxes as brian has said. Another thing i want to say is that, you know, the Mob Mentality really rang true to me. He called him the boss, which is what we ill call him. There were the Loyalty Tests again, i mean, that happened to all of us. These loyalty test. And then lastly, ill just say this guy has got nothing to gain right now. I can say, as somebody who was with them all the time for six years and who has spoken out as well . Hes going to get attacked by the right. Hes going to become, you a disgruntled lowerlevel hello employee. And hes hes lost really good lifelong friends, which is something i can completely sympathize with. So i think thats something for people to think through, is that hes not gaining anything from doing this. Brian, youre nodding so i completely agree. I think that it makes complete sense as to why he would come im out now publicly because it does look like its never going to go to trial. And he does want to explain to people why in his view, this is not a witch hunt. Its real. And just to go back to something, david said, i do think tomorrow were going to hear from the Special Counsel, her and the hearings at the house side about his report on bidens handling of classified documents, but it is important to remember that in hurs report he actually says that the trump case is much worse than biden, and he actually says things that now we have mr. Butler talking about the ways in which trump tried to hide the documents from the government, putting him on a plane instead, and trying to delete footage. Theres nothing like that in the hur report right no. I mean, the deleting Footage Aspect of this and that separate that all of that. Its still sort of defies the imagination, although i know not your imagination, stephanie, i mean, all of this, even even the phone call that you heard butler just talking about on vacation together and trump calls and offers to get him a lawyer that that also rings true to you absolutely. Again, its kind of this Mob Bunker Mentality that we will pay for your lawyer. We will take care of you. You stick with us and no one can touch you. Again, this guy i assume is paying for his own attorney or maybe his attorneys doing it in kind, but its scary and it cost you a lot of money to speak out as being a lot of money, david, theres less of it, not so much at the rnc because it comes all of these developments as trumps having trouble fundraising. Weve just found out that the rnc is doing mass layoffs, Cutting Vendor Contracts and that this is in a much greater sense than would happen with the normal change in leadership at the rnc, which they are going through, of course, what trumps daughterinlaw now running it as someone whos been on the front line of a campaign, how serious could this funds issue be . I think very, i mean, money is very, very important in campaigns. Its how you need that money to pay for organization. You need that money to get your message out. I would expect that some of these organizations supporting the president as well as the president s campaign, are going to start a sustained attack on trump in the next several weeks certainly within months. And he doesnt have the air defenses now to respond to that so it is it is a big deal that they dont have money and im sure one of the reasons theyre making all these cuts is to trying to avert as much money as they can to the operations in the state aids which are starving and to media. All right. Thank you all very much. I appreciate it next to stark warning from the man, the Trump Campaign hired to find election fraud. That was his job to show them all of the prod to show the country and he did he looked and looked and looked and he found nothing. But he does say he knows what trump will do if he loses. Again, hes my guest next plus a rare sighting of Kate Middleton after admitting that our first postsurgery family photo was dr. 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