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Then you said the gauges came back and in reengaged in the plane just reengaged to its normal Flight Pattern we have no issues before. No issues after, but just that moment im quite certain that is terrifying. Can i ask you what it was like after this happened in the plane flies again and obviously the pilots are in the front and youre all back there was it silent . What were those last 45 minutes . There was there was 25 minutes of eerily silence from the ones that were okay and then a lot of you could hear people sobbing and a lot of people kind of in pain with kind of yeah. Just kind of hunched over and people shaking like there were their hands were shaking and it was it was bizarre. It was i have to say it was and seeing those people fly around, it was like to see him out of exorcist. I was like, what is this it was it was hard to believe that to see that happen firsthand. What brian thank you very much for sharing it with us. Of course. Sorry. So sorry for you and everyone. The board that plane. It is terrifying. What happened terrifying with the pilot told you and we all want some answers and obviously, you and your fellow passengers deserve them as quickly as possible. Thank you. Thank you for thank you for having me. Thanks for joining us. The lead starts now welcome to the lead. Im jake tapper this hour warnings from within what you have not heard about donald trump and his admitted admiration of Authority Qatarian leaders reportedly saying, hitler quote, did some good things and quote or that putin was an okay guy. The quotes go beyond trumps public praise of Authoritarians Plus what cnn is learning about that doctored photo by catherine Princess Of Wales, after her public apology her Mysterious Illness still not publicly disclosed. And the questions for this highranking member of the royal family and leading this hour, a Cnn Exclusive Interview with the man known as trump Employee Number for five, brian butler worked at maralago for more than 20 years only to find himself in the middle of trumps classified documents case where the former president is accused of keeping top secret National Defense material at his private resort, maralago, and then refusing to return it. Sea lions, Katelyn Polantz as part of the Team Breaking this story. Present kaitlyn trump, Employee Number five, mentioned multiple times in special counsel jack smiths indictment. Why is he also known as brian butler . Why is he coming forward now . What, butler says now that the reason he wants to speak publicly is because he wants people to know the facts. And this is a person who has sat down with process heaters multiple times, who is very likely to be a witness at the trial of donald trump and his two codefendants. When it is coming up. We dont have a date yet, just yet, but hes very likely to have to speak about that and hes saying now that in his experience here, hes putting the Puzzle Pieces together. Hes realizing this is not a witch hunt of donald trump, and that he had overheard thing he had seen things in this alleged coverup that donald trump and others were taking part in to keep the classified documents out of the hands . So the federal government that he believes its enough for him to come forward. And also jake, this is something that has been personally difficult for him. He spoke at length about that with Kaitlan Collins, his best friend for 20 years, Carlos De Oliviera, whom he worked with at maralago, is a codefendant of trumps, and they do not talk anymore. And butlers said to us that trump has divided the nation. He also has divided him from his best friend, kaitlan. What do we know about butlers role in the special counsels investigators . Well, theres a couple of points where brian butler is trump employee five and described as witnessing things in the indictment specifically quickly conversations he was having with Carlos De Oliviera in the description of what they were doing afterwards, the interest in surveillance tapes and other things. But the one area where brian butler also was privy to the major thing happening here was june 3, 2022. Thats when hes at maralago club. And then walt nauta the codefendant of trump asks him to borrow an escalate or requested he thought was a little bit odd for not as typical role in his typical job there. He loaned Walt Nauta The Escalate and on that same day, thats when the Justice Department and the fbi had come to maralago to meet with trump in his attorneys to collect all of the records that trump still have there on the property that they didnt get all of that time. Heres more of what brian butler had to say to Kaitlan Collins earlier today . And then what happened is walt left before me and hed goes directly to the plane. Hes either in the motorcade when he goes there with the boss, which the former president , and i remember telling him he left the club with i didnt know what he had in his vehicle, but he waited for me at a nearby business and i told him i would tell him when i was leaving marlon logo. So i left maralago. I texted him, hey, im on my way he followed me. He pulled out and got behind me. We got to the airport. I ended up loading all the luggage i had and he had a bunch of boxes you noticed that he had thought they were the boxes that were in the indictment, the white bankers boxes. Thats what i remember loading. And did you have any time any idea at the time that there was potentially Us National Security secrets in his box and no clue no i had no clue. I mean, we were just taking them out of the escalate piling them up. I remember they were all stacked on top of each other and then were lifting them up to the pilots. How many boxes . They asked me in the interview and i believe it was i tend to 15 is what i remember. I know the investigators, correct . And when you look back on that now well, i had no clue until probably the end of june, theres a few Different Things that happen that kind of opened my eyes to, you know, somethings going on here you get that unusual request. Did you ever think to yourself, why were there so many boxes at maralago . For me. Im just thinking out of the former president and he has a lot of stuff he likes to lug around with them. I never wouldve thought it was anything like what we see testify jake weve. Received one comment in response to this story from the Defense Teams here. That is from Carlos De Olivieras lawyer, john irving, and he says that they look forward to seeing what brian butler will say under oath, potentially if hes called to testify at all right. Kaitlan, polands along with Kaitlan Collins big scoop today. Thanks so much. Former federal prosecutor elie honig is back with me. Elie. What do you make of that response from the oliveiras attorney what its certainly fair for any Defense Lawyer to say we dont want to make public statements and will be litigating this case in court. Notably different, however, from the approach of the codefendant, donald trump who has very much tried to litigate this case in the court of public opinion. Now its also worth noting. Its a virtual certainty that this individual, mr. Butler, has already made statements under oath, either to a grand jury or as Katelyn Polantz just said directly to a prosecutor, which is punishable by perjury. Now, theres a difference between testifying to a prosecutor or two grand jury where youre not being crossexamined and testifying on the Witness Stand At Trial where you are subject to crossexamination. So thats really where the rubber hits the road. This is a fair i think response by the oliviera, but not in step with the other defendants in the case. How might trumps defense team pushed back and try to crossexamine a witness like butler yes. So theres some interesting strategic considerations here. Some of the defendants, Donald Trumps lawyers are going to say, but you didnt hear any of this directly from donald trump. However, the problem is thats going to harm deal of the era. And walt nauta, the other defendants who did have direct conversations with mr. Butler. I think theyre also going to use theres this sort of standard argument, this person has incentives to try to please prosecutors that he got some sort of Softball Deal and i think ultimately the test for the jury will be a does the person appear credible . Weve seen some of the video and i think our viewers will be able to make some of their own decision on that. And b, does the other evidence back him up . Thatll be the crux of the battleground at trial. Elie honig, thanks so much. Kaitlan collins has much more of that exclusive interview coming up on the source thats tonight at 09 00 p. M. Eastern only here on cnn on capitol hill house, republicans released a new report today in an effort to discredit the january 6 committee. And one of its star witnesses, Cassidy Hutchinson you might remember her dramatic, although secondhand account of a physical altercation that took place or so she was told she says between trump and a secret Service Agent the president reached up towards the front of the vehicle to grab at the Steering Wheel mr. Engel grabbed his arm said, sir, you need to take your hand off the Steering Wheel. Mr. Trump then used his free hand to lunge towards bobby engle so just remember she was in that testimony clip we just showed she was relaying what two secret Service Agents had told her or one secret Service Agent and one former secret Service Agent today, House Republicans released a transcript from an interview with the third secret Service Agent, the one who drove trumps vehicle that day. And he disputes at an altercation ever took place. Cnns Melanie Zanona is live for us on capitol hill. Melanie, what more can you tell us . So this report is accusing the january 6 select committee of purposely withholding it testimony that directly undercuts Cassidy Hutchinsons explosive testimony about trumps behavior on during your six inside the president ial motorcade that transcript in question, which republicans have gotten their handson, include testimony from the driver who says yes, trumps voice was raised, but he was not screaming at the secret Service Agents in the vehicle and that he did not lunge or physically reach for the Steering Wheel as hutchinson testified, so republicans are saying the select committee he purposely and selectively play up cassidys testimony because it was more damaging to donald trump. But jake, there are a few points worth noting here. Number one, the department of Homeland Purdy said that the transcripts were not released because they were under review at the time. Number two of the january 6 select committee in its final report, does acknowledge that there were conflicting accounts about the incidents the motorcade, but they said the bottom line is unchanged that trump was insistent on going to the capital after his speech at the ellipses in an effort to stop the legitimate certification of the 2020 election extreme results. And third, cassidys lawyer says that she told the truth, and as a reminder, as you pointed out, jake, she was just relaying what she had heard secondhand. She had never said that she had witnessed that incident. Fant herself, but of course that has not stopped republicans from accusing her of lying, trying to discredit her testimony as a witness as they look to turn up the heat on the january 6 select committee eight and tried to Absolve Trump for his role that day. All right. Melanie zanona, thanks so much. Former trump adviser Peter Navarro has just eight days to report to a federal prison. 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