Was released, particularly because it touched on the president s age and memory, two issues that they anticipate Congressional Republicans are going to attack the president on over the course of this mornings hearing. And again, the white house, when they pushed back on this, they took issue with the way that the president was characterized, and the president himself was clearly irritated in a Press Conference that occurred in february, just after its release. Thats thats my memory has gotten worse, mr. President. My memory is not. My memory is fine. My memory. Take a look at what ive done since ive become president. None of you thought i could pass any of the things i got passed. How did that happen . You know, i guess i just forgot what was going on. Do you fear that this report is only going to fuel further concerns about your age . Only by some of you now, notably casey. Since then, the campaign has released a new ad tackling bidens age head on, where he says and acknowledges that hes not a young guy. So clearly, since then, they have developed their strategy to use the president s age to their advantage. But its still going to be a sensitive issue when it comes up this morning. Yeah, im not sure to. Their advantage is going to be totally possible, but certainly to try to neutralize the issue. And priscilla alvarez, thank you very much for that reporting. I really appreciate it. Doug. Hi, karen finney, Sasha Eisenberg are back with me now. In fact, lets lets play a little bit of that ad, because look, theres a stark contrast between the president that we saw in that Press Conference after this report came out and the president , the president that they want to present to the country, watch. Look, im not a young guy thats no secret. But heres the deal. I understand how to get things done for the american people. I believe the job of the president is to fight for you, the american people. And thats what im doing. Im joe biden, and i approve this message. Can we do one more take . Look, im very young, energetic and handsome. What tell am i doing this for . Thats cute. So now we got us all laughing, right, saying oh its cute. Big difference from that Press Conference after the her report dropped. Yeah. Well you was that Press Conference a mistake, person only as a comms person, i would not have done it. However, thats easy for me to say sitting on the outside when instead of on the inside, when youre trying to convince the president of the United States not to do something that you know he wants to do. But look, heres the other thing ill say. You know, obviously, internally, weve been testing a lot of different clips, clips from the state of the union, for example, and clips and looking at how what is the best way to talk about his age. And one of the things we found is and by we, i mean this is some of the outside groups. When you talk about it just head on, straight forward. It actually does do better. It actually mobilizes people and kind of gets people to shift away from the age and more to about the ideas. So i suspect thats why the white house did that, because i think the campaign rather because i think theyre seeing the same thing that just take it head on and then move on. Well, and sasha, when you were looking into kind of how voters interpret this, its really about a question of weakness, right . This idea that is President Biden weak. Whats the best way . I mean, whats your understanding of how the campaign, the Biden Campaign could push back on that idea . Yeah. And in my book, I Quote A Pollster in 2020 who did all this research on the subject, and they they identified the underlying worry as voters thinking that joe biden wasnt going to be the author of his presidency. In the pollsters words, that that the age thing was not that he was, you know, physically or mentally. You know, damaged. It was that he was a politically weak figure. I think that has to do something with being Vice President as your sort of Primary Identifier to voters. And the way he kind of, like, stumbled into the nomination, never really being the center of attention. And so they saw that the way to counter that in 2020 wasnt as they tried for a time to show him bicycling and photo ops and like, running up the stairs of a plane, but really like basic, even banal fixes like these 15 second like digital ads that they were putting out in front of sort of right leaning audiences. They were just biden, unedited and speaking to camera about his values. They thought that thats what would assuage the underlying anxieties that voters had that manifest in concerns about his age. What do you how do you think about that, doug . Joe, joe bidens charming tells jokes. Theyre funny. Weve known that for a long time. To me, whats whats critical in that ad is when he says, this is about you, this is about the american voters. And i go back to 2016 where we all thought, donald trump couldnt do anything and couldnt beat hillary clinton. And when he said, hillary has these signs that say, im with her, well, im with you. Thats when i sat back and said, oh, Wait A Second here. He understands some of this and voters are very selfish people. We all are. We want to hear about ourselves, and we want to hear about what we deal with in our lives every day. And if biden gets to that, hes in a stronger place because he talks about those issues very passionately. Yeah. And the what im going to do for you and to that point, i mean, one of the things i think will be critical in the election, you know, people, if you you know, how you feel about donald trump is pretty baked in. The thing that the Campaign Needs to do is connect. Why is the fact that he may be corrupt or selfish . 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Former President Trump agreed that tiktok is a National Security threat, but said that Banning Tiktok would increase the popularity of facebook, which he considered to be the, quote, Enemy Of The People. You think facebook is the Enemy Of The People . Dude, have you been on facebook . Everyones uncle is on there and they love you. All right. The house is on track to vote tomorrow on the fate of a bipartisan bill that would effectively ban tiktok in the United States. But there is a potential new roadblock. Donald trump, the former president , has republicans on edge after he flipped his position, insisting a ban on the app would make people, quote, go crazy. Here is what the bills republican cosponsor told cnns manu raju. Well, hes wrong. And by the way, he had his own what Executive Orders in his own actions he was doing. And now, you know, now hes suddenly flipped around on that. I mean, its not the first or last time that ill disagree with the former president , the tiktok issue is pretty straightforward. Its not even about tiktok. Its about ensuring were protecting the data of the american people. All right. Cnns alayna treene, who covers donald trump for us, joins us now. Alaina, i mean, this is a straight up flip flop. Why is the president doing this . Former president . It is. Although i will say from my conversations with Donald Trumps team and going back through the audio, its more of that. I think he has skepticism about this than its a straight up reversal. But theres a couple reasons for this. One is that he really does hate facebook, donald trump. Weve known this for a long time. Hes, you know, railed against Mark Zuckerberg for years. He believes that they had some role in influencing the 2020 election. Of course, theres questions over that, and also, he is worried that if tiktok were to be banned, that its users would migrate to facebook. I loved that seth meyers clip, because i think a lot of people recognize, like, young kids dont really love facebook anymore. They look at it as more like the boomer thing. Exactly. So im not sure if thats, you know, that concern is well placed. But the other part of this is as well is when i talk to people close to the former president and his aides that they would they think that it would be great if biden were blamed for tiktok being banned. They know that so many young voters specifically love tiktok and that people, as he said, would go, quote, crazy. They believe that if this was something that could be placed on biden, if people are really upset with biden over losing one of their favorite apps, that will only help donald trump. And of course, young voters is a key demographic or a key demographic that his team are trying to peel away from joe biden. So thats part of this as well. It can be political. Yeah, yeah. Sasha, as our resident disinformation expert, a big concern here is how the algorithm, the tiktok algorithm, which, you know, is basically the Chinese Communist party, the company that owns tiktok, has to respond to them. Right. So we dont exactly know the true details of their influence, but we know that its a possible city that perhaps it exists and there are certain kind of instances where we can point to things. But for example, videos that are critical of china get fewer views than things that are viewed as divisive here in the United States. What is the actual threat to our politics from how tiktok is able to influence people just through their phones . Yeah, i mean, so it functions differently than than other social platforms that are more dependent on you choosing to follow things. You know, it is queuing up content for people, and it makes it very difficult for political campaigns to get a handle on, not just whats on the platform, but whos seeing it. Are they voters . Are they in the United States, and so if you are bidens campaign, youre running for office at any level. Youre trying to set policy. Its a fairly Opaque Communications medium. So like we can you know, go and see what Television Ads are running. We can see whats in the newspaper. It is very hard to get a handle on what voters are actually seeing on on tiktok. But can we just remember trump loved facebook in 2016 because remember, it was those algorithms that were getting people into all the disinformation about hillary. In fact, they had facebook people literally embedded in their campaign. So this i mean, talk about a flip flop, right . He loved them. Now he hates them. I also think the timing is interesting, considering he met with elon musk of x, and x is about to launch. What a video app that is similar to. Youtube. So i would continue to watch this space on that one, doug, the politics of this, i mean, i take elenas point, right . If joe biden signs this legislation and again, just to back up for a second, we say it would ban tiktok. It would be an effective ban. It would basically say that unless the parent company, which is owned by china, divests tiktok, sells it to someone else so that someone else controls it, it will not be allowed in app stores, the google play store, the apple app store, etc. If its biden who signs this, is that a big political problem . I mean, what is the like . Whats the calculus there . Well, biden very much wants to sign a bill that he hopes doesnt come to his desk is sort of the reality of the politics on this. But i think i think the internal republican politics are more interesting. Here. You have donald trump saying, we got to get rid of it. Chip roy, as Big A Trumper as you can get, says hes wrong. Youve got rand paul out there, on on that side with chip roy as well. Youre exposing some republican divides that i think we didnt really expect to see as recently as 3 or 4 weeks ago. Yeah. How do you think this actually plays out in the senate . Do you think theyre going to be willing to do something along these lines . Because, i mean, i will say there does seem to be a lot of bipartisan buy in around the idea that, like, there are very real dangers in this app having as much influence as it does now. One thing ive learned about the senate is rand paul is going to rand paul and i think we need to figure out how far hes willing to go to stop this as to whether or not the Senate Passes it. But biden is very proactive. I want to sign this bill and then very quietly, dont send me this bill. I will add to it just in my conversations with Trumps Campaign that they say this isnt like the bipartisan border deal where donald trump very much wanted to blow it up and was glad that he sunk it. They say that hes not going to put as much effort into trying to tank this bill as he did with that, that hes going to he believes that congress will make the right decision here. They can do with what with this bill, what th