Welcome to a decisive primary Night Edition of the source. Im Kaitlan Collins here in washington along with Anderson Cooper in new york. Okay. And kaitlyn, the primary dominates this hour with President Biden clinching the nomination just a short time ago, and the former president expect to do same just about two hours from now when results start coming in from Washington State. And of course, the other Big Story Anderson here in washington is the reaction to former Special Counsel robert hur and his testimony before the House Judiciary Committee today, taking fire really from both sides of the aisle, as he explained his decision not to prosecute President Biden over his handling of classified documents while he was out of office. First, this pivotal primary night for that, lets go straight to cnn its david David Chalian. So where does trump stand in the delegate count . And when do we expect them to secure the nomination . Hes so close. Anderson he needs 1,215 delegates. Hes he there in the upper righthand corner to win the nomination, donald trump is currently at 1,184 delegates. This is after he won hello gets in Georgia In Mississippi already this evening, it puts him 31 delegates away from the nomination. Take a look. If you look at it by percentage anderson, donald trump has won 92 of the delegates awarded so far in this republican contest, you see nikki haley, there has only 17 the 0. 1 . It sort of begs the question whether this nomination was winnable for anybody not named donald trump all this time and take a look at what donald trump needs in order to win the nomination, he only needs 2. 7 of the remaining available delegates, and were only on the second tuesday in march. Hes got going to cross that threshold. Most likely later tonight when Washington State reports, its votes after the 11 00 p. M. Eastern hour, anderson, President Biden cross the threshold to what he needed earlier tonight. Word is that delegate total stanford him . Yeah, hes now over that 1,968 needed to win the democratic nomination. Hes currently at 2011 delegates. He also won a slew of delegates out of georgia and mississippi so far this evening, and hes going to keep adding to that total tonight. He overwhelmingly just trounced any nominal competition that he is todd in this race. So given all the talk about his potential weaknesses as a general election candidate, it never really materialized inside an actual contested battle for the democratic nomination, anderson, David Chalian, thanks. Gayla and joining me now is the national cochair for the Bidenharris Campaign and the former mayor of new orleans, Mitch Landrieu mitch, its been about 1,225 days since the last biden trump election. Im not sure people are looking forward to the sequel, but now that President Biden is the Presumptive Democratic nominee, what is going to be his priority in the coming days . Well, i think that what you saw today was really a great victory. You mean this is the nomination thats been clinched that this early in two decades, the president had a great day today. The hur report, basically today case closed not guilty. Time to move on. But dont forget the donald trump still has 91 criminal indictment its pending against him. So this election has always it was going to be and its going to be in the future. A choice between two very different people in two very different futures for america, you got a guy that wakes up joe biden every day fighting for the people of america, trying to include people trying to think about the future Donald Trumps thinking about the past. Hes thinking about revenge and retribution. And i think theres going to be a very clear choice for people going forward. You mentioned that her testimony today, i mean, there were points though where you looked at the transcript versus what you saw in the report, but then as congresswoman Pramila Jayapal was questioning him, he interrupted her to say that he had not exonerated President Biden. What did you make of that moment . Well, first of all, that is legally incorrect. Then a prosecutor is trying to gather evidence. They either have the evidence and bring a case or they dont. If you dont have evidence to bring a case, the person is deemed not guilty. Thats the way that i law works, and that is essentially what the report said. Putting aside whatever the Special Counsels hurs opinions are about the president and any other way and for people that are interested in whether the president is up to the job, i just refer you to the State Of The Union that he gave the other night. I mean, the president s ripped up and ready to go and is on the job and making things happen the real part of this though, is that his age is a concern for voters. And so what is the pant plan for the campaign to address that over the next eight months for those who are concerned about it, even democrats well, let me say this. I think that is clear that you have a 77 yearold and an 81 yearold who are going to be running against each other. So age is not going to be the determining factor. Not all their ages, but the age of their ideas is joe biden is thinking about the future Donald Trumps thinking about the past, there is a clear distinction between these two guys. And i think donald trump is going to be on the trial with the American People to, as he is in six separate courtrooms in america right now, which is just amazing, even to contemplate. But President Biden shows up every day. Hes bringing the receipts. I dont need to go over all the successes that hes had. The distinctions between these two guys as, as wide as the golf just yesterday, President Trump said ill leave that hes going to cut entitlements. Joe biden said, im going to protect him. Donald trump wants to take away health care. Joe biden is going to protect them. Donald trump is he eviscerated womens rights in america. Joe biden is going to protect them. Were going to build an economy from the bottomup and the middleout, Donald Trumps going to do it from the top down. Thats never worked before and so were here for the battle. Were ready to go. And the president is on track. The Washington Post is reporting tonight that rfk junior has selected his running mate and among the New York Times and Washington Post reporting, the names that are out there are jesse ventura, rodgers on one robin. Your name wasnt on there . But honestly, you thank god you list. But but can i ask you what is your plan to deal with rfk junior because this could come down to the margins. You know, how much the margins matter to joe biden in 2020 . Listen every vote, every vote counts in these elections, and all of the experts on the panel with, you know, about that, you cant tell whether hes going to hurt us or hurt trump more, but that list is just i dont even know what to say about that. I dont want to dignify it really, whether response joe biden is going to get up every day. Hes going to try to earn everybodys votes. Hes going to bring the receipts of creating 15 million jobs having the lowest Unemployment Rate in the last 50 years, wages have gone up as you see, inflation continues to go down and were going to battle to protect peoples rights and freedoms in america. Thats what this race is about. And the choice is going to be between donald trump and itd be between joe biden of future that includes everybody or future or past that excluded he does every body and we just got to have to take the battle to them and win in the battle place of ideas i mean, it is a real question though, of who could it hurt or help more donald trump or joe biden. I mean, what is the level of concern inside the campaign about him well, first of all, again, like i said, every vote is of concern. Theres really no way to tell thirdparty candidate its if not fared very well, but they have an impact on races. But well let all the genius has tried to figure out what the heck is going to matter, but all we know is weve got to go out there and earned everybodys vote. Continue to talk to them about the future of the country as President Biden sees it, you have a guy thats planned, pity, pity pity plaque with dictators. He had victory or ban at maralago this week. And now john kelly in a book by one of your colleagues, is talking about how much he reveres hitler. I mean, you know, the choice is a pretty clear about what direction we should be going into this country. Mitch landrieu, if you come out, is that running mate . Im going to call you. Thanks so much for joining us tonight. Up fleet, Something Like god thank you. Anderson, back to you again over on the republican side, the foreign president waiting for polls to close the Washington State, which is expected to put them over the top soon as Kristen Holmes has been talking to her sources in trump world joins us now is what are you learning about the strategy for this campaign moving forward . Well, anderson, look, leaving, acting as though donald trump is the nominee now for several weeks, a lot of this is trying to talk about how theyre going to build out their strategy and their ground game in those critical battleground states, were talking about georgia, michigan, arizona, and nevada. But the other part of this is really learning how to navigate with these legal issues. And part of that is the trial that starting at the end of this month im talking to sources who say donald trump wants to attend every day of that trial, even the days that arent mandatory. So even at the beginning of the trial, when its jury selection, it just has to be lawyers, donald trump is saying he wants to attend, so theyre looking into plans for that and also how hes going to actually compete in a general election campaign. So right now, they are talking about wednesday on saturday being the days that they actually have events because those are the days that they arent in court. Now, donald trump, he has said that he would go to court during the day and then in the evening you would campaign what im talking to these sources they acknowledged that that could be very difficult. They just dont know how theyre going to get him in and out of the city where its close enough. What kind of rally or eventual so right now, its just figuring out how to navigate these several weeks of trial, which donald trump is going to be in court. And of course, as we have seen in the past, he is expected to use those cameras to his advantage, but remember in this new york trial, this Hush Money Case, this is not the same as the civil fraud trial. Were. There are cameras everywhere that you can go out to. We saw im trying to navigate this when he was court just recently having to walk all the way out to this pool camera where he essentially was shouting. Its just not quite as easy, so theyre trying to work around how theyre going to use those that courtroom as a campaign stop. But also how to actually work on the campaign because they know that this is going to be a very close election. Any tight rematch with joe biden, Kristen Holmes, thanks so much. Kaitlan back to you anderson. We are back here the panel and also have David Chalian with us along with andrew mccabe, paula reid, tia mitchell, kate bedingfield, and doug heye. Doug, i mean, listen to kristen lay out what this is about to look like for the next eight months is kind of scary. But if youre a republican operative, how much scarier is it i think its very scary for republicans for a few reasons. One is were seeing in georgia, donald trump is yes, hes winning overwhelmingly, but hes lost 61,000 Georgia Republicans right now. He lost the state by less than 12,000 votes. That has to be very concerning. The other thing i think should concern republicans is in the state of colorado. Ken buck has announced his retirement is imminent retirement soon. There are a whole lot of Congressional Retirements Skewing republican. Were gonna have a lot of open seats defend those are hard things to do. Its also going to hurt that majority, that republicans are already dealing with those already slim, but i just wonder because brian kemp today, this is not a surprise he told basically everyone that he was going to do this, but he did go and cast his vote for donald trump. And i wonder as someone who is deeply reported on their politics what you make of that, given that is something that we could see from other republicans who say, yeah, im not a huge fan of Donald Trumps, but i also really dont like joe biden, so im going to pick the republican on this ticket. Yeah, weve heard that time and time again. Even nikki haley has indicated that if trump is the nominees, shes going to support him. She definitely would not support biden under any circumstances. So what we hear from a lot of republicans, even those who are critical of former President Trump is that when it comes down to a matchup, a rematch, they still think trump is better for the country than biden. They think biden is awful. They think his tenure has been awful. They think that theyd rather deal with another four years of trump, then deal with four more years. Heres a biden and were seeing that kind of writ large. I mean, i think its also just like a political calculation. The republicans who stood up to trump and said never trump, no way, not anywhere are in a political nomansland. So i think in a way that its understandable that those who still want to be relevant to them the party, at some point believe they have to fall in line once its clear that trump is their nominee. Yeah. I mean, David Chalian, were seeing that play out in georgia right now. I mean, can you just explain what were whats happening with these numbers because nikki haley is there about 14 . Obviously, she is no longer in this race. But what do you make . Of what is happening there given that margin that doug was talking about, but her name on the ballot still allows this protest vote is nontrump vote inside the context of republican primary. I mean, one of the great mathematical equations to be done, this election season will be okay, well, how many of those folks just put on the republican jersey and stay with the republican nominee. And how many are actually potential biden voters in the fall, but largely i think when you look at these two unpopular nominees that come into focus tonight, the negative partisanship is going to drive so much of this because politics is always not an either or but a both end. And so these candidates are going to have to really he Gin Up Enthusiasm in their base and theyre going to do that with the negative partisanship that exists in society and playing into the polarization a bit and then theyve got to be able to add to that with some folks in the middle and in the middle, both of these candidates are suffering and to davids point, weve just had a week of democrats saying joe biden is back stronger than ever. Theres no question about his age and that this is a game changer is what Congressman Raskin said earlier. The game hasnt changed. If you look at the polling, bidens numbers havent moved here at a very good night, but theres been no follow through on that and thats why this race sort of remains the movable object against the resistible force. And voters are saying we dont want to see this movie at all, okay . I think that the partisanship, the partisan divide is also the reason the races is sort of effectively stagnant until it comes into focus. And so both trump and biden, clinching the nomination tonight. That is a good thing for the Biden Campaign. The sooner they can turn peoples attention to the contrast one of the issues we havent really talked a lot about tonight is abortion, which we have seen time and again is motivating both democrats. You talk about this base issue. It is absolutely an issue that is motivating Democratic Base voters. The coalition of voters biden needs to get energized and come out but we also saw in 2020 2. 20, 23, its motivating independent voters suburban voters who are also turned off. But were also the voters who are most turned off by Donald Trumps rhetoric. So that combination is really good dynamic for the Biden Campaign and theyre going to have to try to drive a lot of republicans down ballot who say a lot of crazy things. Mark robinson and North Carolina gubernatorial candidate kari lake, who we all know, they cause problems up and down the ballot. They cause trump problems and they cause their other candidates problems as well. The one thing though that the Mitchell Andrew mentioned there, theyre counting on as well, is trumps criminal trials. You mentioned multiple of them, but paula reid, i mean, as weve been reporting, were not sure that any of them are going to happen beyond the case that is slated to start in new york later this month, the Hush Money Case which is seen as the das office says, this is still legally perilous for him, but but is not s