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Every day, hurry. Therell be gone in a flash design, a sales at up to 70 or so gilt. Com today today On Inside Politics a judge dismissed some of the charges against donald trump in the Georgia Election case. As including one related to that infamous call where trump asked georgias Secretary Of State to find thousands of votes were following all the breaking details from the ruling plus game set, rematch joe biden and donald trump officially clinch their Party Nominations last night, setting up the longest general Election Campaign in american history. And exposing serious warning signs for both candidates and tiktok. Will congress shut it down . The house just passed a bill that bans the Popular Social Media app unless the chinese owner sells it. Xi jinpings government is now warning the move will quote, backfire on the us im dana bash. Lets go behind the headlines and Inside Politics first up the breaking news out of georgia. A judge in Fulton County judge tossed tossed out six of the 41 charges against donald trump and his codefendants. Defendants in the States Election racketeering case. This as were standing by for a ruling on whether the Da Spearheading The Case will remain in charge or the thrown out because of epics allegations. Cnns Nick Valencia is following all these developments. Nic dana, this is a big win for the defendants in this case, including the former president. These 41 count indictment six of these charges have now been thrown out. Those charges having to deal with his solicitor contagion of a violation of an Oath Of Office by a public official. The Presiding Judge in this case. Case scott mcafee, saying that the das office failed to provide enough details about what the violation would be in the alleged crime would be that these defendants were allegedly soliciting and this is what hes saying in part of his ruling. Quote, the courts concern is less that the state has failed to allege sufficient conduct of the defendants. In fact, it is alleged in abundance. However, the lack of detail concerning an essential legal element is in the undersides opinion, fatal. We should point out though, that judge mcafee did leave the way window open for a potential appeal and said that once those details are fixed by the district attorneys office, they can reindict, but in the immediate, this is being celebrated by trumps attorney here in this case, steve sadow saying that this is an indication that the entire indictment should be dismissed. Now, we dont want to confuse our viewers here. We are still waiting for judge mcafee is decision as to whether hes going to remove fani willis from prosecuting this case. You didnt mention in a recent interview with wsp radio in atlanta that hes going to have his decision by the end of this week. Its something that he reiterated to us in a chance encounter earlier. Are supervising producer jason morris ran into scott mcafee outside of the steps of the courthouse where he did reiterate to cnn that he plans to have a decision on the timeline he has given himself dana ok. Nic. Thanks so much for that reporting. Moments ago we heard here in washington from congressman jamie raskin, the top democrat on the House Oversight committee, whose says he is not concerned about the judges parse partial dismissal rather listen. To me is a reflection of the rule of law. I mean, without opining on this specific dismissal, i mean, i dont get upset when trumps team wins emotion in civil or criminal court. That is the rule of law and the Justice System i want to bring in former us attorney and cnn legal analysts, michael moore. Thanks for joining me from georgia. Whats your reaction to the ruling well, im glad to be with you. Im not surprised to see it. I think that the use of a special demurrer, which is really just a challenge to the specificity of an indictment is a normal Defense Motion that we expect to see file. And so this simply is a chance for the court to look to see if the state provided indictment that was perfect in form and substance, while that sounds like an impossible task, there are some offramps at the state could take it some provisions that allow them to move forward in this case he simply said, look, you have laid out some allegations about soliciting Public Officials to violate their Oath Of Office, but you havent talked about their oath, you havent talked about the specific violations and how that would impact their oath. And so were going to throw those counts out. The state does have the chance to come back and reindict if they if they choose to. But he also in a Footnote Sort of gave a preview of what hes thinking i think about timing and that is he said i wouldnt necessarily oppose that the case be immediately appealed to the issue because theres not precedent in this way thats something that can certainly cause a delay. I think hes hes expecting that so its a win for the defense team today. Cases like this often die the death of 1,000 cuts and im not suggested that this case they had a hood. This indictment is going to be dismissed in total, but its these little these lane fix these little chops that take the tree down and we say that at least six of the counts today, while the state has a chance to clean it up, though those those counts are gone as of right now, one of those counts, michael was related to that infamous phone call on january 2, 2021, when then President Trump called the Secretary Of State in georgia, brad raffensperger. Lets listen i want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 wow, which is one more than we have because we won the state just to be clear, there is another charge related to that call that is Still Standing but what is your read of the dismissal of one of them . Does it suggest anything about whether that call is the smoking gun that people thought it was when we we heard it back . I dont know. Three years ago, four years ago, almost well, i think the case could have been brought on that one can alone and that is this Telephone Call and wed be well down the road already through with the trial and moving forward. But the dismissal of this cant simply talks about as it relates to the solicitation of the secretary . Of state to commit a violation of his Oath Of Office. Well, i think what the court is looking for is the state to say the Secretary Of States own is x. Its spelled out in the constitution is spelled out in the statute. One of those provisions is that you have to support defend the constitution. Both of the United States or the state . Ahead of georgia, clearly the right of people devoted to have those votes counted is something that would be under the o, theyve considered on the pair states. So i feel like they could clean it up if they choose to. But again, this demurrer and i dont want people to think this is the end of the cases certainly is not plenty of chances for the state to go back if they want to reindict. But this demurrer is a tool the Defense Attorney use Defense Attorneys use when you have a complex indictment, you have compound charges under one count of the indictment, complex allegations and compound allegations. And so it least as it related to these, it tells us the judge read hey, carefully, the indictment consider very carefully the arguments that have looked at the specific wordings of the georgia statute, and thats why thats why were here today. Those are first of all, thank you so much for putting all of that into context and perspective and explaining a lot of we just what we just saw because it is detailed and it is complex. Michael, thank you. Good to see you now. Thank you. Now, a turn the page. Moment. Thats how the Biden Campaign is describing the president s securing the democratic nomination effectively. So just hours after former special counsel robert hur testified on capitol hill, hello. About bidens handling of classified documents. Cnns jeff zeleny is in milwaukee, wisconsin where President Biden will be speaking later today. Jeff well, dana, the spotlight is shining on wisconsin, really, unlike any other battleground state, of course, looking ahead to november because this was a very narrow margin margin. We think back to 2016 when donald trump carried this state by about 23,000 votes or so for years later, joe biden won it by about 21,000 not only that, of course, this is the city where donald trump will be renominated. The republicans are Holding International convention here in july. All of this really boils together to make this state critically important, which is why President Biden is coming here. And the first order of business is trying to get some of those democrats back on board, easing the concern about his fight for a real flexion and trying to drum up excitement. We cut up with one of those voters, luverda martin, Who Last Year Ics expressed some skepticism about Biden Running again this is what she says now i just dont think he gets credit simply because hes not as loud and boisterous about what he is doing. We tend to focus on the negative we to the think about whats now happening, what we saw, what that state of the union, i am much more confident in his energy level, in his health and his motivation and his ability to he was quite energized and that energize me to be a little bit more motivated about it. The white house certainly hopes that the president s roadshow, if you will, bring some of those democratic voters back home back into their campaign . And then they will start working on the independent voters that will indeed swing this election. But dana, theres no doubt this blue wall that biden flipped from 2016 to 2020 is so critical recall to his path in november. So hell be coming here to milwaukee later today. Hell be talking about ai, one of his accomplishments, the Infrastructure Bill and specifically the granularity of that expanding ending the Sixth Street Corridor not far from where im standing here in downtown milwaukee. Is that theres some 36 million making the point that his accomplishments actually helping benefit local citizens as you know, dana, a very divided state here in wisconsin, it will be for the next eight months to come. Question you are definitely aware where its at, and thats why the president is going there. I think youre going to be there a lot. Yeah. I appreciate it. You bet. We have an excellent panel here to discuss all of this and more. Jackie kucinich of the boston globe, cnns isaac dovere and Leanne Caldwell from the Washington Post. Nice to see all of you lets stay on the question of the beginning of the next eight months. Kind of said that last week, but now its mathematically the case that these two men are going to be their partys nominees just starting on the democratic side, the question of coming together and of President Biden getting the coalition starting to patch it together and bring people who have been frustrated back home. Ilhan omar was on cnn last night, and i want you to listen to what she told abby phillip if the election were held today would you vote for joe biden . Can you confirm that he would have your vote today . Of course democracy is on the line. We are facing down fascism. And i personally know what my life felt like having trump as the president of this country. And i know what it felt like for my constituents and for people around this country and around the world, we have to do everything that we can to make sure that does not happen to our country again thats a big moment dalian, a given the fact that she is a member of the famous squad, she is somebody who has been very critical of the president and lots of things, especially these days on the israel gaza war. She also told abby that she sees significant progress on the biden administrations approach . I was not expecting that to be ilhan omar is respond when abby asked her that question, i thought that she was going to say that the president has lot of work to do. That is its absolutely a big moment for the president. And that is also what he needs, not with just people like ilhan omar, but people who are likeminded on omar who have a lot of concerns with the president. But as you can see, the president seems to be listening. You saw on a state of the Union Address announcements about gaza theyre trying to open this humanitarian components there. And so it seems to be the discontent with the president , especially on that issue seems to be seeping in and hes heeding their advice. Isaac, you talk to biden administration, Biden Campaign folks all the time. What should we know about how theyre viewing and framing this next phase as they call it turning the corner, or however, how it at turning the page, turning the page. Well, like to turn the page is after this week which they knew a lot of these pieces were going to be in where were they landed . The state of union. They were gearing up for for a long time, the way that that speech went, its always the atrisk, so the state of the union, they were prepared for those, the atrisk, they felt confident that it was going to give him a reboot and a lot of peoples minds, you saw that with the voter and wisconsin that jeff was talking to that the her testimony yesterday, which seems to have really taken the legs out from that report and the feeling that there were all these Big Questions with the president s mental state. So now if you have a president who seems more energetic, who is not senile or whatever her was, maybe trying to imply. And they say, look at donald trump, look at what he really is and what it would be. Thats the crux of what ilhan omar was saying. Its not just like, oh, im feeling good about joe biden. She said, i remember what it was for my life when donald trump is president , and when it comes to Arab American voters, thats an argument that you will see made of. Yes, there is progress on how the president is approaching israel and gaza, but also remember the muslim ban. Remember all these things, right . And well see if that is more potent now than it was a couple of months ago when they were trying that out and Arab Americans were saying, yeah, that doesnt mean anything lets look at the other side of the ledger if you will, to donald trump and what some of the results that we saw last night in the primaries, particularly georgia, tell us a warning sign for him nikki haley got more than 77,000 votes. We were talking just before for this about that infamous Phone Call In in georgia when he was looking for votes he lost to joe biden in georgia by fewer than 12,000 7,000, almost 78,000 votes what kind of Red Flashing Light is at what we saw . There were some early votes, but the reporting out of georgia is that a lot of those were Protest Votes against the former president. And that is that as a blinking red light for him. And thats not just in georgia. Weve seen this around the country, excuse me. That these pockets of support for nikki haley even when it was clear she wasnt going to win particularly in the suburbs, particularly among women and well educated voters that is going to be the hardest thing for the former president to bring those republicans home because a lot of those folks probably voted for biden in the last cycle. And as a result, he is not the president. I mean, you have this sort of the omar example, which i dont think we can overstate. I think how significant that moment was. I agree with you and then we have a very different sign on the republicans that he has trump has eight months to bring those people back rightful. Thats a long time. 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