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With the gun, but tried to hide it and ethan was the one that was responsible for this yeah. We will see what happens. We saw what happened with his wife and the conviction there. Now the jury has this case in their hands. Jean casarez, always good to see you. Thank you for that a new hour of Cnn News Central starts now happening right now, a double dose of Donald Trumps legal drama. Hes heading to Federal Court in florida as as his team tries to get the entire classified documents case dismissed, and hes waiting to hear from a judge in georgia any minute now about whether or not the prosecutor who brought the case against so well stay on the case. Plus a Terrifying Scare in the sky. There are new details this morning about a Student Pilot trying multiple times to break into a cockpit and an ally plaskett Airlines Flight the most powerful rocket ever built is scheduled to launch just minutes from now, well bring that to you if it happens, im Jade Ball Hold On with john berman and sara sidner. This is Cnn News Central here is whats happening right now two legal cases on the docket today that could impact Donald Trumps political trajectory. Any moment we could learn if Da Fani Willis will be removed from the Election Subversion Case against donald trump and others in georgia. And any moment now the former president will arrive at a Federal Courthouse in florida trying to get the classified documents case thrown out or delayed this morning. The judge in the classified documents case will hear arguments from trumps team trying to do just that. The trial was initially scheduled for may prosecutors. Now, when it moved to july hi, but if trump wins his delay, which has been a Winning Strategy so far, the trial might not start until after the election. Cnns Kaitlan Polantz is outside the courthouse in florida. Give us some sense of what happens in the coming hours and how that could really change the trajectory of Donald Trumps political calendar. Well, sara, i just received word that the motorcade for donald trump is on its way from maralago here to the Federal Courthouse house in fort pierce, florida. This isnt a hearing just about delay. We are still waiting for a trial date to be set in this case, but todays hearing, its arguments over whether trump has a valid argument to get his case dismissed. Hes asking this, judge, Aileen Cannon here in florida to dismiss the case for a number of reasons. Since but today it focuses on this idea that he says the records that he took from the white house to maralago at the end of his presidency, were personal wants to say they were his that he had the ability to make that call as the president , that they werent president ial or government records. He wanted to keep them and thus he did. And that his warriors also be arguing that the laws around National Defense records are too vague. Now, the justice department, they say no way these were personal records. They are National Defense records Classified Records with markings on them, meaning trump should have known and seen that they were classified National Security information and they were records about things like us and foreign defense and weapon capability, the us nuclear programs, us vulnerabilities to a Military Attack and plans for possible retaliation by the United States. If we were under attack as a country, the federal governments argument in court to judge cannon is that can not be a personal record of any president. We will have to see what the judge decides. Shes not going to decide today, but well be listening to what her questions may be. See if shes leaning one way or another, sara. All right. Thank you so much. Katelyn polantz for all your reporting there in fort pierce, florida, outside of court and joining us now to talk more about well, this is a former attorney for january 6 congressional committee, temidayo agangawilliams. Its good to see you. Thank you for being here. Lets focus in on this case and trump being back in court. One of the arguments of why they want the charges dismissed as a president ial records act. Were looking at the filings that have been kind of thrown around on this on a read you two parts. They argue his theres retention of the documents is protected by law. His team says President Trump was still the president of the United States when for example, many of the documents at issue were packed, presumably by the gsa transported and delivered tomorrow. Lago jack smiths team clearly disagrees. They countered with this, even if the raft of highly classified documents that trump took from the white house to maralago. Were somehow categorized as personal under the president ial records act that would not render his retention of those documents authorized what do you think of this . So what the former president is trying to do is say that force of our claiming power, no one that he doesnt have, the president ial records act is concerned with keeping our proper record of his official acts while in office. So its not a case where the business hes Conducting Dozen is not maintained or historical purpose this is that permits him to designate certain items is personal, meaning. This wasnt me doing something as president , it was me as an individual. Thats completely and wholly separate from classified documents, which by any stretch of imagination are going to be president ial in nature. Thats all about doing the job of the presidency. The idea that a document regarding Nuclear Weapons could somehow be personal in nature, like a letter you sent to someone. Its ridiculous. So were jack smith is saying that, first of all, you dont have that power. But separately, we have federal laws, criminal laws about how you retain documents and theres no argument thats really credible, that somehow the president ial records act is going to Supersede Criminal Laws by when and how you retain documents. I think thats really the argument there. Lets how much how much of how much of this is about delaying the trial. 100 of it is about delaying the trial. Now, any defendant has the right and opportunity to have these kind of pretrial motions. They are common. What is problematic here is that many judges decide what we call on the papers you can read the briefing and make decisions to move criminal cases along quickly. Thats a default to a lot of judges. I love this. I appear in front of a Federal Court. They dont even allow or argument on important motions. You write down your argument and the judge decides on the papers here. Judge cannon, again and again, unfortunately, seems to be incapable of moving this case along quickly. And any federal partitioner will tell you the one person who can move a case quickly in any court is the judge, especially a federal judge, almost unfettered control over for their docket. So any delays here really at the end of the day, come down to judge cannon. Stick with me because weve Nick Valencia going from florida to georgia now, Nick Valencia with an update for us on what were also standing by really any minute to hear nic, which is to hear from the judge overseeing the case. The criminal case against donald trump in georgia, the Election Subversion Case on whether or not the District Attorney is going is gonna stay on this case going forward. Whats the latest thats right. Good morning, kate. Will she stay or will she go . Were standing by for for a monumental decision from judge scott mcafee tomorrow, the deadline for that selfimposed twoweek timeline that he gave himself to make a decision in this case and in a recent interview, he did say that hes going to make his decision based on the best understanding of the law but the big question is, what is the understanding . Whats the threshold for disqualification here . Is it an actual conflict or is it simply the appearance of a conflict . We should remind our view heres why were here in the first place, fani willis, the Fulton County District Attorney, was able to secure an indictment, a historic indictment against the former president of the United States, donald trump as well. Well as some of his closest allies. And while in the last two months, it may seem as though shes been on trial during one of the hearings for her disqualification, she made it clear that shes not the one on trial in this case an intrusive into peoples personal lives. Youre confused, you think im on trial. These people are on trial for trying to steal an election in 2020. Im not on trial no matter how hard you try to put me on trial. In a sense, these allegations have already worked when they dropped in early january, they lead to a delay in this case, we were on track potentially for an august start to this trial date, but now it is it has been delayed. Kate nick, thank you so much for standing by for for that decision to drop any minute now, nick is going to be there for us. So what do you think the way Jennifer Rodgers i was talking to her yesterday, she was like this is just a really messy situation. This entire thing. Do you think it is more likely that fani willis stays on the case and what does it do to the case . I think yeah, i think its just messy no matter what. But if are a betting man, i think shes going to remain on the case. Frankly, the risks, the recent dismissal of some counts actually gives you more confidence that the judge is going to keep her on interests and goals. He gives his giving her office, you opportunity to replete these counts, to go back to a grand jury or and secure additional indictments of these charges, which to me suggests that if he had a larger, more larger blockbuster ruling coming, he would have saved that hes now decided pretrial motions with suggest he sees this case is moving along and attract to trial. So i think shes actually going to pretty good position to stay on the case. And as far as what it does, i think frankly its messy and i dont know thats any way around that she made the choices she made and i personally think that there were not appropriate. I dont think it was a conflict of interests, so i do think she should remain on the case, but i think there might be a little a lack of competence by some about her moving forward, dropping the charges. You mentioned that dropping any of the charges, it does not eliminate the case. Do you think it hit its at the strength of the case at all. Well, the core of the counts or rico counts, the most severe counts as far as a prison time. Thats still i think why it does perhaps hurt the case some is that when you charge cases, youre thinking about themes. So you pick not only the clients that you think you can prove, but when you tell the jury through the entire indictment and then youre really giving a narrative. So i think here these counts that have to do with tried to get someone to violate their oath of office. Its very good. I think as far as telling the story of january 6 and elite up, so i think why she may end up going back and seeking additional charges here. Im gonna play counter and i do not have a lot of grief at all, so im probably definitely wrong. What if it just is like cleaning it up . Its just like tidying up this case, making it more straightforward. Well, i think i think shes made her choice, but thats what the kind of case she wants. I mean, going from over 40 counts so 30 something counts doesnt do that much. And thats fine. But i think you all right. I mean, but she didnt go that route or jack smith who went im going four counts against one defendant she wants this massive sprawling, complicated case. I think its still that yes, its a little bit slimmer but this is by no means a jack smith shot, a quick oneshot. Its great to see you temidayo. Thank you so much for being here with me, sir. Thank you. Still ahead this morning. 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Backroom deals, cia secrets, affairs, bribery, corruption, process the two shen theres so much more to the store United States of scandal with jake tapper sunday at nine on cnn quite new information coming in about a man arrested for trying to open the cockpit door repeatedly on a flight from san diego to washington. Now he claims he was testing the Flight Attendants were also getting new details about the contents of his bags seen its tom foreman has been following this and joins us this morning. Tom, what are you learning . Its not clear how much of a Student Pilot he was, but in the bag, what rowe, according to authorities, there were details on how to fly a plane, how to land a plane, and things like that written in notebooks. What we do know, what is clear at this point is from authorities there that three times this young man tried to enter the cockpit of the plane how much this was a rush at it or just an attempt. We dont entirely know. We know that they said he was uncooperative with the flight crew. And at that point, they had two offduty officers come forward. They put them into flex cuffs. They put them in a seat this out on either side of him, and they took a cart and pushed it in front of the door to add som

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