States of scandal with jake good morning. You were alive in the cnn newsroom. Im jim acosta and washington donald trump is off the Campaign Trail and back in the courtroom just minutes ago he arrived at the federal courthouse in South Florida for a hearing and his classified documents, case trump and his attorneys will ask the judge to dismiss the charges or at least grant them a delay in the trial and delay could also be looming in trumps election subversion okay. Its down in Fulton County, georgia at any time now, the Presiding Judge there could announce if District Attorney fani willis is disqualified from the case and a decision that could derail the trial from starting in august. Lets begin with the classified documents hearing today in florida. Cnns Kaitlan Polantz is outside the courthouse. Kaitlan, how likely is it that a judge Aileen Cannon will dismiss the case . There jim, that is going to be entirely up to her and were watching to see exactly how she reacts to the arguments today that are taking place in the courtroom. They should be starting any minute now, donald trump and his two codefendants are there as well as all of their lives players as well as the Special Counsels office. This is a critical hearing, not one thats going to result in a ruling today. There will be a ruling on it eventually very unlikely that ruling would happen today, but its a critical hearing because its the first and very likely a series where Donald Trumps team is going to argue he shouldnt go to trial at all. He should not be charged because of things that he had or did whenever he was president in this particular hearing his team wants to argue that those documents that he took from the white house to maralago with the end of his presidency and then held onto them for several months, more than a year, though for personal records because donald trump said so he wanted to keep them. And thus because he was president , he should be able to the Justice Department has made very clear. They do not believe that is the law or the situation at all. They think that trump is obstructing their ability to get back, not just any documents, not just records that he might want to keep, but records that are so sensitive that it would jeopardize National Security for them to be out of the hands of the federal government or the Rightful Owner of them at the time in this case, they say these records are defense secrets. They are secrets its strike at the heart of Us Nuclear Capabilities and how the United States would respond to foreign attackers. The things about weapons and other Defense Strategies that are very important at a National Security level. Jim and we still dont have a trial date yet we do not have a trial date. It was just two weeks ago that we were here in court and there were arguments from both sides about when this trial should take place. We still dont have a calendar from judge Aileen Cannon. All she has done since that date really is put this hearing on the calendar and wanting it to go forward before trumps criminal case in New York City starts in two weeks from now. But there is this question Up In The Air. How long is it going to take, judge Aileen Cannon to resolve not just questions like the arguments that are being presented to her today. But how long will it even take for her to decide when this trial should take place . Will it happen before the election everybody on both sides, trumps team, his codefendants, and the Justice Department, theyve all proposed dates for before the election whether judge cannon believes she can do it before then. That is still Up In The Air all katelyn polantz. Thank you very much down reporting live from a very busy roadway in front of the courthouse there. Thanks kaitlan for hanging in there for us. We appreciate joining me now, cnn chief Legal Affairs correspondent, paula reid, Cnn National Correspondent Kristen Holmes theres a former federal prosecutor and defense attorney, shan wu paula. I mean, you and ive weve all been outside those courthouses and those went all the cars and trucks are going by. I mean, we can kudos to kaitlan for hanging in there during that live shot there. That was a court for not giving us a safer place to report because when you come out with news, you have to go down plus stairs and across four lanes of traffic. Wow. Yeah. That okay. Note to the judges down there. We can do better. All right. Paul, lets start lets dig into this. The trump team will likely argue today that trump could legally keep any document that he wanted. And heres what he said last night on newsmax. Lets listen and i took them very legally and i wasnt hiding. We had boxes on the front of the un a lot of those boxes had clothing and alive when moving out. Okay. Unfortunately, were moving out of the white house. And because were moving out of the white house, our country is going to hell. But we werent hiding anything yeah. I mean, paul, i mean, hes sort of his legal team is saying we can keep any document that we want. But at the same time, trump is trying to make the case. It sounds like, oh, well was a messy process. We were in a rush. We were packing boxes its sort of two different things. Yeah. Lets use his own words. The story that we broke, right . Hes on tape saying, you know, i couldnt declassify things after i left office and insinuating that he has something that is classified and he knows he shouldnt have it. Right . Im the argument that you can just take documents with you, that your personal property that is not something that is going to succeed in a court of law even if Aileen Cannon, who has surprised us before agrees with this, a Court Of Appeals is going to reject that argument that that is false on its face. Even his description of what happened is contradicted in the indictment itself. I mean, even him saying were not hiding anything. Well, if you werent hiding anything, why didnt he give all these documents back when you were first asked, why were boxes moving around . And pull one of the charges here is obstruction. So what he said there on newsmax just does not match the facts the case. Yeah. Im also thinking about shanna, you know, looking back to the Robert Hur Hearing that we heard up on capitol hill the other day, the republicans going after joe biden for documents he kept i mean, i guess under the trump legal teams thinking here, i guess President Biden shouldnt have been in any hot water over the documents that were next to the corvette in his garage. I mean, tell us what does the law say . The law says you cant take any document that you want. And it also says, when we want some of these documents back, you gotta give him over. Oh, absolutely and starting with the first point, i mean, trumps argument that these were somehow personal or under the president ial records act by definition just doesnt pass the laugh test. I mean, these are sensitive documents. Some of them pertaining to Nuclear Secrets these are not personal in the sense of all i have a momental a letter i exchanged with someone doesnt make any sense to treat them under that category all. And its a problem here with the way judge cannon treats this because by not setting the trial date, she really wants to give us like a full airing out of them and may even allow for appeal. That may come up as well. She couldnt set the trial date. This kind of thing has so little legal marriage. She could have just taken care of this right . On the papers. I mean, its really his trial defense. Trying to mount. Hes trying to make it like a pure immune defense like i dont even have to go to trial to present the defense, but the way shes approaching it really choose up to time. Yeah, it sounds like the absolute immunity defense that theyre trying to use in the jack smith case. Krista, i mean, the other thing we should point out, donald trump is at this courthouse today. He doesnt need to be he doesnt need to be. He could be on the Campaign Trail if he wanted to. One of the things he loves to say is i have to be in this courtroom it could be campaigning, they stopping me from doing that. He could be on the Campaign Trail. He is choosing to be there now, the one thing to note is that this is not going to be your traditional donald trump in Court Campaign stop because there just arent any cameras. Youre not going to see him. Hes not planning for any remarks, but we do know that he wants to partake in his defense. He wants to be there and were told that about new york to because remember in new york hes going to have to to be there for that case at the end of the month. That trial, they are talking about how thats going to look. Hes going to be there every day. How is he going to run a general Election Campaign inbetween going to Court Every Single Day except for wednesdays. So you can imagine wednesdays, friday and wednesday, saturdays are likely to be the actual de that you are on the Campaign Trail. But he wants to do this. The other part of this that weve heard is that he wants to show the judge and show the jury eventually a new york that he is a willing participant in this, that hes a willing defend it and he wants to participate in a case. He also i mean, this is all about we saw this during the primary process. He wants to keep ginning up that base. This is so integral to that strategy for his campaign. It is. And also one of the things we talked about a lot is whats going to happen in terms of turnout in a general election. Theres not a lot of excitement around biden and donald trump they hope that ginning up that base, that means those people will turn out and vote. But can they depress the vote enough on the biden side so that, that base shows up and he can win that way as well. Thats part of a strategy thats important. I mean, this courthouse is the Campaign Trail. The Campaign Trail is according to one as paula, one of the things we should get into is, lets go back and look at this. A witness of the Documents Case known as trump employee number five. And talking about moving the boxes and everything because when we get into this conflation of the biden case and the trump Documents Case. And so there are clear there are differences in this witness talks to some of that. Lets listen you noticed that he had bought they were the boxes that were in the indictment. The white bankers boxes thats what i remember loading. And did you have any time any idea at the time that there was potentially us National Security secrets in those boxes . No clue. No. I had no clue how part of this Documents Case is what was going on with these boxes. Why were they move from here to there . Why were they being stored in certain parts of maralago . And so i mean, its the actions that that were taken when the federal government was asking for these boxes back, that its going to be key to a lot of this. Yeah, absolutely. This goes to obstruction. I mean, this also questions about ms handling, right. If you have random People Holding boxes that have this, some of the nations most sensitive secrets. But this goes to obstruction and efforts to move these around a completely contradicts what you just heard trump say on newsmax, which is we were trying to hide anything. Well, if you werent trying to hide anything, why were you moving these boxes . The three key differences between the biden case and the trump case, right . When biden realized that he had these documents, he immediately return them. He allowed for full searches of multiple properties, and then he sat for a voluntary interview. And this witness is really key just to talk about that obstruction in an efforts, again, to prevent a fulsome search. Yeah. I mean, shan that gets to the heart of why so many legal experts have said. And i think George Conway has said this at the fastest way for donald trump to end up in an orange jumpsuit. Is this Documents Case . I mean, its the Obstruction Aspect of this that really could put him in a lot of hot water. Youll absolutely those sorts of actions like what paul was saying. Thats really gold in terms of showing your bad intent in which were doing. And thats why its really so important on the comparison to biden. I mean, one thing that troubles me some is the timing and the language of the hur report. While hur is making these distinctions, it also gives judge cannon sort of a little agenda but that she could walk through and ask them to make those distinctions politically trump may like that, but again, timewise, forcing the Special Counsel to talk more about these distinctions continues to run out the clock and shin i did want to ask you about the Fulton County case because we saw a couple of these charges sort of get tossed out yesterday by the judge. Whats your sense of that . I know there was a lot of talk yesterday that well, maybe fani willis is as messed up here, but this base speak to how the judges handling this as well. You think to me, it shows a little bit of his inexperience. He is a very smart judge, but he is super concern with the kind of hybrid Profile Cases is experienced judges with the case would this amount of detail involved . I dont think would find though you need more particulars here. I mean, its pretty clear what the allegations are that may reflect some of his inexperience as does his handling of the actual disqualification hearing, which i felt really just veer ny outside the rails yeah and at any time, i mean, were hearing the judge could announce if hes Disqualifying Fani Willis from bucha District Attorney in those case. I mean, kristen, the trump team not only the legal team, but the Campaign Team must be waiting with bated breath. Yeah, you know, i can see what happens here. I mean, this is the case where he had the mug shot. Right . Can you imagine if she gets tossed off . This is the case where hes been talking smack about fani willis four months and now shes the one in the hot seat. And this is exactly where they want to be. And ive got a lot of questions yesterday about how Donald Trumps team feel about the fact that they dropped some of these charges. Its like theyre very happy obviously, but hes still being charged. What they want is for District Attorney fani willis to be the rhone off the case. And thats what theyre really looking for. And waiting for that decision to be made. And even if shes not, he wins either way here. If shes just qualified, the case survives, but its handed off to another prosecutors office. Theyll have to decide who they want to add charges, fix these issues that mcafee flag or dismiss it altogether. The one thing we know is theres no way the case would go before the election. But even if shes not disqualified, this is a gift for trump because this is about optics, this is about trust in the judicial system. And here he can continue to remind people about this romantic relationship, about the hundreds of thousands of Dollars Nathan Wade has been paid to investigate him. Intelligent minds can disagree about whether thats the market rate, but to the average voter fodor, this does raise questions about the integrity of the judicial system and not for trump. Again, either way, just qualified or not to gift yan as falling. Wales has said, i mean, its not shes not the one on trial here. Its trump in these other codefendants, but our were gonna be watching all of that, guys. Thank you very much for getting us started this morning. We appreciate it. President biden, we should know hes back on the Campaign Trail raju setting to the Battleground State of michigan. 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