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Break Top Senate Democrat calls israels Prime Minister and obstacle to Peace Netanyahu has lost his way as the situation in gaza grows more desperate. How will netanyahu respond . The israeli Prime Minister joins me live in moments and then former House Speaker nancy pelosi and south dakota senator mike browns plus buck guide battle. Donald trumps sounds off in ohio stupid president dominance ahead of a Heated Senate primary with trumps influence on line there, could he fall short . Ohio Governor Mike Dewine is here exclusively and lay delay, delay Donald Trumps legal strategy is paying off. We want relays, obviously, im running for election. Will these stand trial in any case before election day . Californias senate candidate, adam schiff joins me exclusively. Hello, im, dana bash and washington were the state of our union is thinking the stakes couldnt be higher. We begin today with the israelhamas war four and a shift here in the us. Senate, Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, along and steadfast supporter of israel, made a stunning break with his longtime friend, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and called him an obstacle to peace in the region. That comes as the us works to build a floating pier to deliver aid to desperate people in wartorn gaza while early this week negotiators are expected to later this week, i should say are expected to start talks again about a potential deal to pause fighting and free more of these rarely hostages held by hamas since october 7, when hamas started all this by Attacking Israel and brutally killing more than 1,000 civilians. Here with me now, as israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, thank you so much for joining me. Lets start with that potential deal, sir. 100 hostages, about are still being held by hamas. Youre sending that Negotiating Team to qatar in the coming days to talk about a potential deal, free hostages in exchange for a sixweek pause in fighting. As you know, hamas is demanding the release of hundreds of Palestinian Prisoners in exchange for roughly 40 female hostages. Are you open to that or you close to a deal well, time will tell, but hamas is outlandish demands and im not itemizing every one of them now, mix that deal a lot more difficult, but im were going to keep on trying because we want those hostages just back. We understand also that the one thing that gets hamas to give them is to give these hostages to us, is the continued Military Pressure that were applying there. So were going to continue Military Pressure and were going to continue to try to get those hostages out and weve succeeded already in bringing half of them out. I hope you continue along that same course. Lets talk about what happened here in the us this week. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer gave a pivotal speech and said you have lost your way and called you an obstacle to peace. Take a listen the netanyahu coalition. No longer fits the needs of israel after october 7. Now i believe that holding a new election, once the war starts to wind down, would give israelis an opportunity to express their vision for the postwar future Chuck Schumer is the highestranking jewish elected official here in america, a staunch supporter of israel. Whats your response . I think what you said is totally inappropriate. Its inappropriate for to go to a Sister Democracy and try to replace the elected leadership there. Thats something that israel, the israeli public does on its own. Were not a banana republic. I think the only government that we should be working on and to bring down now is the Tourist Tyranny in gaza, the hamas tyranny that murdered over 1,000 israelis, including some dozens of americans. And as Holding Americans and israelis hostage, thats what we should be focused on it as far as what Senator Schumer said the majority of israelis support our governments 82 of americans support israel instead of hamas. But the majority of israelis support the policies that were leading go into rafah, destroy the remaining hamas terrorist battalions, make sure that we dont put into gaza instead of hamas, the Palestinian Authority, that edge okay, so their children towards terrorism and the annihilation of israel and ad also an enormous majority here, including 99 knesset members to nine oppose the idea of ramping down a palestinian stayed down our throats. I want to get to this sunday. Schumer, them majority of israelis support the policies of my government helped start a fringe government in represents the policies supported by the majority of the people. If Senator Schumer opposes these policies is not opposing me, is opposing the people of israel. Okay. Im gonna get to some of the polls that you cited in one moment, but i just want to make sure that our viewers understand that schumer gave the big speech, but he has support in many ways from the president of the United States, President Biden is a selfdescribed zionist even he is starting to distance, distance himself from the way you are handling the war. He called what schumer said of goods speech. He said that he shared the concern of many americans. They arent criticizing israel, theyre criticizing you and your rightwing coalition data. Theres a fallacy that is being perpetrated here. And you should take polls. Youll have your own polls and check whether the people of israel support the policies that im being criticized for. That is supporting the policies of going into rafah destroy the quarter of the remaining hamas Terrorist Army. Thats like leaving a quarter of the hammer of the nazi Terrorist Army in germany and saying now, were not going to finish the last quarter and were not going into berlin. Most israelis overwhelmingly support the position that we have to go in. They pulled the idea, ramming down a twostate solution or a Terrorist State against their will because they think that this will endanger israels future. They support those policies that im putting forward and to present that as something that is an outlier, it doesnt represent the majority of the people of israel is simply a fallacy. And ill tell you the other part. A look at fallacies. There are saying, well, moos palestinians dont support the hamas massacre. In fact, 85 of palestinians do support unfortunately, the hamas massacre. So theyve got two fallacies here. And you can readily check that the majority of israelis support the policies that i have on prosecuting the war, which is what im being criticized for. Well, so its not just me. I think people of israel who believe that we have to have this resolute year. Im sure if youve been criticized, have the parcel is not its the way that youre prosecuting the war. So im gonna get to that in one minute, but i just want to add a little bit of sort of context to the way that the Biden Administration is pushing back. Another way is that the Us Intelligence community warned that, quote, distrust of netanyahus ability to rule has deepened and broadened across the public and then back to the polls. Youre talking about support for the idea of toppling hamas. That makes perfect sense. Thats there were other polls and israel, three major Israeli Television stations that said what israelis also support our early elections. Thats what i really want to focus on here is Senator Schumer not calling to topple the government, but specifically says, when the War Winds Down will you commit to calling new elections . Thats my question. Will you donna twothirds first of all, what you said is wrong the vast majority of israelis opposed early elections until the war doesnt end. Weve just had many polls on that look a lot of the pores a twitch channel 12 says guided channel 12 says 64 of israelis to put all your links show. Thats not now im afraid that they ask them the question, do you supported during the war and they said, thats not what humorous tone or hes calling for new Elections Winds down well, well see when we win the war and until we win the war, i think as well as understand that if we were to have elections now before the war is won, resoundingly one, we would have at least six months of national paralysis, which means we would lose the war if we dont win the war. Lose the war, and that would be not only defeat for israel, but a defeat for america to because our victory is your victory. Were fighting these barbarians new Election Rival when the war wipe down everything that, everything that we hold dear together will you commit to new elections . I think thats something for the israeli public to decide, but its not, its not something look, thats something for the israeli people to decide. I think its ridiculous to talk about it. Its like after 911 after 911, youre in the midst of fighting the war against alqaeda. And then israeli would say, you know what we need . No, is either new elections in the us or if your system doesnt allow them, president bush should resign and we should have an alternative leader. You dont do that. Well, they dont do that why . Sister democracy to an ally . You dont talk about that what you do talk about is how do we help you . Defeat what President Biden called shear evil. You dont just stop after you destroyed 80 of shear hundred percent of shear evil to allow different minister i wanted to tell us about why the sentiment has changed i mean, obviously there has been huge support and still is really big support here in the us and most corners of the world for you doing what you are saying, your strategic goal is to defeat hamas and to make sure that that kind of terror attack doesnt happen again. But what is happening and the reason why the world is shifting and public sentiment is the humanitarian crisis in gaza organizations call what they are seeing nearfamine in gaza so why you allow more food trucks to drive through the Border Crossings into gaza to feed starving civilians while you continue to take out the terrorists in hamas will are policies to do exactly that. And in fact, weve enabled what are policies do not have famine, but to have the entry of humanitarian support as needed and as much as is needed. So weve allowed, weve created alternative routes, Supply Routes we allow the dropping of the support from the air humanitarian aid. A sea route that weve cooperated with. And it started yesterday and a tentative land routes that were enabling get the problem isnt getting the trucks in. The problem is that once theyre getting in their alluded by hamas, alluded by gangs. And what were seeing what were trying to do with some other powers is to try to get the aid to the actual civilians who need them and not looted by hamas. Thats really the problem. Well, thats why ive enabled alternative routes of supply okay . Theres been a trickle. I mean, to be fair of of supply going in there and every major ngo outside organization involved with this crisis says that the level of hunger is lifethreatening for hundreds of thousands. Cindy mccain who mccain family there been long supporters of israel. Shes now the Executive Director of the world food program. She said that hunger has reached catastrophic levels in northern gaza, people are dying only a fraction of the food needed in is trickling to prevent an outright famine. They need significant increase in humanitarian aid. Now, millions of lives are at stake will you do that . Will you commit to that of course, were doing it. Again. Ive authorized alternative routes of supply. And again, the problem is not the number of trucks going in all there were increasing on a daily basis. I think the problem is preventing the looting by hamas im by others. Thats what were working on now. I think its a cooperative effort. Our policy is to an able humanitarian aid thats been a constant element in our in our whole program to destroy hamas militarily, but also to supply the humanitarian response its not man obstacle to that is actually well, its not, its not happening. Well, in the north, you think youre destroy hamas. If hamas isnt in the north, then how is hamas the taking away food and if you open up more Border Crossings and give food into the, into the into the area allows starving people to eat the looting maybe would subside. Thats human nature, no thats thats exactly whats happening because we have increased the number of trucks entering the north. I dont think i think im up to date and i know these numbers and we know that there is a there is an increase, but we also know that we have a job up to do to prevent the looting because at the end, we bring in the trucks, including to the north and then their alluded by remaining composters. Weve destroyed the Fighting Formations of hamas. The terrorist battalions. But there are still individual errors that were terms shoot the drivers should the drivers take over the goods and try to give it to hamas fighters, the remaining hamas fighters. So its an ongoing battle. I understand, but its something that you stand that it is the responsibility to use joint hamas and giving humanitarian aid forgive me. I understand that. Given the images that im sure you have seen, do you believe fundamentally that it is israels responsibility to make sure that those starving civilians, including those children get food and youre doing everything in your power to make sure that happens categorically . Yes. I think its its an effort that were engaged in all the time. I think that hamas is working on the opposite effort one, to get people not to leave war zones they want more Civilian Casualties. We want to minimize Civilian Casualties and the second they want to, they want a common deer, the humanitarian aid and bring it to their underground terror tunnels. And we wanted to reach the palestinian population. So the blame should be laid squarely at hamass door. And instead, i find it both the cynical and wrong, just factually wrong to try to place the blame on israel, which is doing everything it can to minimize Civilian Casualties and to get to the humanitarian aid and hamas, which is doing the opposite, instead of placing the blame on hamas, will continue to do it, regardless, regardless of the pr distortions. Yeah. I mean, i think there is no question that hamas is an various organization doing everything it can to undermined whats going on and to create chaos. But because the point is, is that youre not hamas. Israel is a democracy. And as a jewish state, supports and believes in every life mattering. And so im glad to hear that you say that youre going to do what you can get those aid trucks in. And obviously well be watching and im sure a lot of organizations are gonna be happy to hear what you said today. Thank you so much, mr. Prime minister. I appreciate your time. Thank you. Donna. Thank you. Here with me now, is former House Speaker nancy pelosi first, i just want to ask what your responses to what you just heard from the Prime Minister Prime Ministers presentation, prove the necessity of Chuck Schumers speech. Chuck schumers speech was an act of courage, an act of love for israel. And i wish the Prime Minister would read the whole speech because he speaks was great vehemence about the knee it to defeat hamas he is concerned about the weakness of the Palestinian Authority and the very, very dangerous attitude of the rightwing israeli government. The issue of food in gaza is a very big one. And either those Prime Minister netanyahu is unaware or ill informed. But the head of the worlds central kitchen. Jose andres, whos there. As you mentioned, cindy mccain, world food program, and then the other of these entities that are there to feed the people will tell you there is starvation there is famine, there is dehydration because there has not israel has not allowed the food and the humanitarian assistance to go right in. So again, its a fact that so many people are dying from from lack of food. Its really a very sad situation. Now, from the standpoint of Chuck Schumer, he is, as you had mentioned the leading jewish elected official in our country in history and history. He has, he loves israel as we do, we support israel. And the fact that he made the statement should be listened to because israels reputation is at risk because of what is happening and gaza. Now, we all agree many of us, hamas is a terrorist organization. They should be defeated. But what happens next . Weve called for a twostate solution in the democratic party. I was chaired the Platform Committee in 1992 well, we called for a twostate solution. Netanyahu has been against that, but what is the solution, madam speaker, i wanted to ask what the rightwingers are saying that they just take ov