Source tonight donald trump dodging questions about abortion on the Campaign Trail as a top democratic governor who wants President Biden to push the issue four is here. Youll hear from Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer in moments and at the white house, biden hosting Muslim American leaders, but only a few of them after many rejected his invitation with Anger Building over the war in gaza. One palestinian doctor who spoke at that meeting to President Biden will tell me why he walked out. And dramas and promising to free january 6 inmates and dc jails . Yes. That convicted criminals that he calls hostages often. But a new report details how almost all of them were charged with assaulting Law Enforcement. Im Kaitlan Collins, and this is the source but. We start with our top story tonight as donald trump is back on the trail before were going on trial two weeks from now if our president was in a pair of states that could make or break his 2024 campaign. Michigan and wisconsin. These are states of course at trump narrowly won in 2016, then narrowly lost four years later he spent much of today trying to make people as afraid as possible. It seemed speaking in pretty ominous terms and warning about violence consuming American Cities even though of course, as we know from the data, crime is actually down and major cities trump used the Phrase Bloodbath once again, but this time talking about the southern border, repeating his baseless claim that other nations are sending quote, yes, im quoting him now prisoners, murderers, drug dealers, mental patients, and terrorist to the us its a claim weve heard from him before and weve asked his Campaign Many times for evidence of all of that. They have still yet to this day to provide any but there was one topic though that trump himself seemed afraid to weigh in on mr. President , do you support the sixweek abortion ban that the Florida Supreme Court just upheld next week, abortion next week, where have we heard that before well keep you updated on what happens, what is on his calendar next week. But in the meantime, President Biden is wasted. No time responding to that noncancer writing and im quoting biden now saying you already made your statement, donald and circling the part where trump had bragged and the past that he was able to quote, kill roe versus wade. And also underlining that part where he said without me, there would be no six weeks of course, that means a ban on abortion after six weeks of pregnancy, which is about to be the law and the state of florida i the Supreme Court cleared the way. But yesterday there, as you saw that decision, but they also gave voters a say on that and the ballot this fall, its an issue that is proven to be potent for democrats and states like michigan, where voters made their voices heard and enshrined Abortion Rights into the states constitution in 2022 while also reelected, the governor who had made that issue central to her campaign lets go straight to the source tonight with democratic governor of michigan gretchen whitmer, who is also the national cochair for the Biden Campaign governor. Its great to have you here tonight. I want to get into your bill in a moment, but for President Trump was in your state today he did not give an opinion when he was asked out floridas sixweek abortion ban that is going to go into effect it and just 29 days from now, i wonder what you made of the fact that he had nothing to say about one of the strictest Abortion Bans in the nation and his home state i think it just tells you got to watch what the guide does, not listen to what he says. He changes his position all the time on this, but we cannot forget his actions. Speak louder than any words hes uttering yesterday or tomorrow. Hes the one that put three Court Justices on the Supreme Court that overruled roe v. Wade put out the Dobbs Decision and has created a patchwork of rights and freedoms across this country that people are speaking out against and are now trying to take to the ballots in their individual states. So lets be very clear that the reason weve got this mess is because of donald trump and regardless of what he says, his position is now that factor remains what you signed a bill in your state this week ending michigans Criminal Ban On paid surrogacy and surrogacy contracts. I think it would surprise a lot of people to know that this was even still a legal michigan was the last state where it was. Why was this important for you to do . I agree. Its crazy that it was still on the books we also had that 1931 law that would have made michigan one of the most restrictive states in the country if we hadnt amended our constitution to protect Abortion Rights this law would criminalize anyone who paid for surrogacy it was. Something that made sense to get rid of, take it off the books. I dont know why it was put on in the first place. But when we saw the Alabama Court issue there, ivf ruling, we heard republicans all the country say we support ivf. We want families to be able to start. We support the science. And yet here in michigan, when we took this surrogacy Prohibition Off The Books only two republicans voted to support that, and ivf. And so just tells you, i think bet to my first point is you can listen to what people say, but you really got to watch what they do. And in michigan, were trying to make this a state where you are in control of when and whether or not you barrett child and youve got lots of options of how you start that family, whether its surrogacy or ivf or protecting it under the law. Well, given what you signed this week, given the measure that was on the ballot in 2022, about enshrining the right to an abortion in the states constitution. In michigan, there is still that 24 hour waiting period to get an abortion given that youre the Governors Mansion and democrats control both chambers, why hasnt your party been able to deliver on repealing that well, you know was, a part of our initial package that we tried to get done last year. We did have a couple of democrats that didnt support it and weve got very, very slim margins and michigan that should be no surprise to anyone. Thats why the whole world is going to be watching michigan as we go into this president ial election. Were very close state. We go backandforth and so right now in our house, its a 54, 54 tie. You lose one democrat if you cant get the agenda done on a partyline votes, so were going to continue to work to banned access to Abortion Rights. But most importantly im going to work my tail off to make sure that we elect reelect joe biden because we know that a second trump term means all the progress weve made. Michigan could be set back if we have a president who wants to sign an abortion ban, well, you just mentioned the concerns its about what happened in alabama with the Supreme Court there and the ivf ruling. And really what that could mean for other reproductive rights on that ruling in alabama, you have not said whether or not you agree that that frozen embryos are considered people. What is your position on that . Who cares what my position is, kaitlyn, what matters is what the parents and their doctor agree is whatever is right for them, how they define it. Thats the only one whose opinions should matter, not a judge, not a politician, not a governor from a different state thats what the fundamental question russian is. Here. Are we going to empower americans to make their own Health Care Decisions and make decisions about how they go about starting their family and whether or not they go about starting a family. And thats what im fighting for here at michigan. You have been out in the forefront on this issue though. I think people would care what you what you think of that im not a doctor and im not in any one individual situation when we did this Surrogacy Bill yesterday, we heard from parents who went through ivf couldnt carry a baby to term, so had a surrogate do that when they saw all of the laws that were changing they were worried that they would lose the ability to make a decision about those embryos. And a couple of the parents that are event testified that they decided to have the embryo is destroyed. That was their decision. They were their embryos. I dont think that the government or any politician should get in the middle of that choice . You just mentioned, President Bidens Reelection Campaign and working on that effort, obviously, youre a cochair of it in january, you said that you believed more blunt language from him on abortion on this issue would be helpful, but i wonder if youve seen any noticeable change since then this president is the loop person who has, whether its through orders, through his departments at the federal level or a vow to the American People to make sure that if he gets him the opportunity to appoint a Supreme Court justice he gets a congress that will send him a bill to codify the rights on a roe v wade, hell sign it. I mean, he is he is right there on the issues and theres no question about that in my mind. I think the big question is, what is Donald Trumps position going to be at any given time . And if hes back in the white house whether its a threat to democracy or threat to these fundamental rights, or just to rights as individuals with dignity in this country, i think all of that is unknown and i think its very scary. But President Biden, he didnt even use the word abortion in his State Of The Union speech. I mean do you think that b should be able to be saying this in his speeches . If this is going to be a big issue that democrats are running on well, ive, i think we all know where hes at, but to your point, i do think that every advocate out there should listen to women and understand how we talk about these rights. Whether it is as a local official or it is someone on the federal level ive done so many roundtables across michigan. That is why i feel very comfortable using language that people are using, whether it is a failed miscarriage that didnt complete and you have to go to the Doctors Office we used to call that a d c. Its an abortion. Right . We know that weve used different terminology for different situations, but to terminate a pregnancy or two for complete a a miscarriage. That is an abortion. And i think thats why the language does matter. Yeah. Okay. Its you said it does it matter that language does matter . The reason trump was in your state today was in addition to being asked about abortion, he was there to talk about immigration, which has obviously been an issue that he is used to his advantage politically ever since the 2016 campaign, President Biden told you and other governors over a month ago, i believe it was february 20 third, that he was considering new Executive Action on the border. Do you understand why he hasnt taken any of that Executive Action that he was considering much the former president was in grand rapids today and he was capitalizing on a horrible tragedy that happened here. There is a family that is grieving the loss of ruby garcia and she was a real person with a real story. And it is a horrible story that happened. All of that being said, he came into the perpetrate the continued story line that hed had done everything keep us safe, which is baloney. We know that under the Trump Administration he actually called me the governor of michigan to ask that we send the National Guard to help with surveillance on the southern border, and we helped him out because he couldnt get it done hes also the reason that the negotiation in washington dc didnt come to fruition, he torpedoed a deal that would have had the strongest Border Security in decades in this country that President Biden put on the table. He at, told republicans to walk away and they did. So. Ive really i cannot abide when someone comes in and just tries to score political points off of someone elses pain and perpetuates a problem instead of actually trying to solve it. Well, he also invoked you by name. One point, i just want everyone to listen to what he had decided out. The radical leftwing governor, gretchen whitmer, real beauty. She is. I had to deal with her and covid biden and whitmer are stealing your money to give free housing to illegals and then asking you to quarter these people, put them in your homes and freedom and do everything else. And its just the whole thing is so, is so crazy and shes a terrible governor by the way, your streets or bid your everythings bad do you want to respond to that not particularly. I mean, its its baloney and anyone in michigan knows that. I was reelected by almost 11 points. So a yearandahalf ago, im proud to be the governor of michigan and were making great progress here, thanks to the biden infrastructure play ban. Were actually fixing the dam roads, but theres a lot of good stuff happening in michigan and i just think those those Talking Points dont matter a whole lot. Two people every day, michiganders are hard working people. They want liters whose see what theyre struggling with. And to solve those problems. And thats exactly what i will continue to stay focused dan and i know thats what President Biden will continue to stay focused on. What michigan is going to matter a whole lot to the 2024 election. Of course, both President Biden and for President Trump will be a michigan a lot. I expect over the next six months or so. And obviously, one of the key issues here has been whats happening in gaza and how the situation has only deteriorated there. And weve seen so much anger from Arab Americans about the way that President Biden is handling this war what are you hearing people in your state about that why its Gut Wrenching, caitlin, michigan is a state that has a robust Jewish Population and a robust Muslim Population palestinian population era of american population. Theyre not all one in the same. And i think that its really important to do everything we can to support people here. Thats why ive worked so hard to make sure that people are safe in their communities wherever they worship. Im trying to get people out of the region in the early days, but i really do hope that we see the release of hostages and the cessation of violence that is playing out because there have been too many innocent lives taken. And its just Gut Wrenching people in michigan many people are one degree of separation from someone whos at risk of starving are as lost their lives or is being held hostage. And i think thats why this is so, so important that we continue to try to resolve this and use every ounce of american might that we can to do that. Do believe that there should be a permanent ceasefire . I believe that the hostages need to be released and that the violence needs to stop, and we need to really talk about Rebuilding Gaza and supporting the palestinians. But would that be some people have called for a permanent one, President Biden is called for one for at least six weeks, i believe with the release of hostages where are you well, i would like to save i would like to see a peaceful resolution here. I dont know that that that is on the horizon immediately, but i sure as heck hopes so governor gretchen whitmer, great to have you on the source. Thanks for joining us. Thank you and as the other part of that Abortion Issue in florida, now that its going to be on the ballot in november, theres a big question of whether or not democrats now believe the state could be in play for them the Biden Campaign chair seems to think so. Plus, what happened inside a meeting at the white house, just tonight between President Biden and Muslim Leaders who were outraged over the war in gaza and how its being handled. Will speak to someone who was there and walked out your favorite boxes, block teams are back for redemption. 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