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CNNW Erin July 3, 2024

Obsessed with this . One individual and taylor swift at the center of a wild Conspiracy Theory is spreading like wildfire among its Trump Supporters Special Report ahead. Lets go out, find and good evening. Im erin burnett and outfront tonight, the Breaking News, Stormy Daniels and trump tower, trumps longtime assistant on the stand late today. She said she saw Stormy Daniels and trump tower, and she testified that she maintained contacts for both Stormy Daniels and Karen Mcdougal for donald trump. Trumps longtime gatekeeper, rhona graff, was in many ways, trumps righthand for 34 years. And this moment on The Apprentice accurately captures her central role in organizing trumps personal and professional life he asked me to call you and tell you to meet him tomorrow morning at the New York Stock Exchange . I can tell you as a reporter, if you needed to reach trump, he called graff anytime i was at trump tower to see trump when i was a Business Reporter or on The Apprentice, she was there at her desk and his office door. She came and went from his office at her own whim. And that was unique. She was always formal. He was always mr. Trump to her, but she had stature and she controlled access to him. In fact, she wants told real estate weekly, coating rhona, Everybody Knows in order to get through to him, they have to go through me and she told prosecutors she not only remembered seeing Stormy Daniels and the Reception Area of trump tower before trump ran for office. But then it was quote, Unquote Office Chatter that trump Wanted Daniels on The Apprentice something that daniels actually talks about in her recent documentary he said, youre actually really smart somehow. Look conversation about Celebrity Princes came up and his angle was ill get a lot of attention for putting Those Blondes Adult Actress On Tv and i was like nbc would never let me on television and thats when hes like, every season i get to pick one person that they cant overrule. Its my wildcard. Now, you know, graph was not a friendly witness for the prosecution. She remains loyal to trumps. She was only on the stand for about a half an hour, but even in that context, and maybe maybe in that context, what she said today about Stormy Daniels being at trump tower and trump having that Contact Information for mcdougal and daniels . Its very important. Also important was another witness on the stand today, the man who actually arranged Michael Cohens 130,000 payment to daniels. Gary farro worked First Republic bank and he testified that cohen contacted him just days after that Access Hollywood, grab them by the peak tape was released. Now remember, at that time, Trumps Campaign was in panic mode and pharaoh testified that at that time, cohen sat up, set up not one but two llcs. And the second was called Essential Consultants it was done on october 26, 13 days before the election. And thats the Shell Company that cohen then used to pay Stormy Daniels. And remember, it is that is that payment and trumps reimbursement of that payment to cohen . That is at the heart of this criminal case. Paula reid is out front live outside the courthouse tonight, and paula david pecker, crucial witness on the stand and continued and continued and continued but then they were able to very quickly move through four witnesses. So where do we stand right now looking into week two good evening. Aaron all in our first week of testimony, prosecutors only really got through one significant witness wheres the former tabloid king david pecker of you just mentioned. Then they use their last two hours on a friday to put on these other two. And this is really quickly mostly to help them just move im exhibits into evidence. But rhona graph or you were just talking about sheep prompted something we have not seen throughout this entire trial. And that is a genuine smile from a very unhappy defendant. So we have another day of court. In a freezing courthouse. Its very former president Donald Trumps still not warming up to the reality of being on trial in the new york Hush Money Case Acquire was back on the witness stand tying peckers nonprosecution agreement with federal prosecutors to an agreement he made to sell the National Enquirer, a Deal Contingent on the investigation into his company being resolved from a timing standpoint, it wouldve added that onto the stress of the transaction. Pecker testified, they also tried to show how pecker had other reasons beyond just helping trump win the white house for running negative stories about trumps opponents. Pecker testified that his magazine ran stories about bill and Hillary Clinton prior to the 20 trump tower meeting were in agreement to help trump was allegedly breached running those stories was beneficial to ami pecker testified after his testimony wrapped up, prosecutors used the last few hours of the de to call two additional witnesses. The first was trumps long time assistants, rhona, let me add to call splits rhona graff was a fixture in Trumps Office for decades. She testified how before trump became president , she was his Gatekeeper Keeping close track of his contacts, emails, phone calls, and meetings. She told the jury it was a very stimulating exciting fascinating place to be there is no court on monday, so on tuesday theyll likely wrap up with Michael Cohens a banker, and then its not clear who the next big witness will be. They have not said a publicly. Were also waiting earned for the judge, issued his opinion about trumps pledge, repeated violations of his Gag Order Hearing earlier this week about approximately ten violations. Prosecutors added more later in the week, another hearing scheduled so for next week, at this point, its just unclear what exactly the judges strategy is by holding out on a decision there. All right. Thank you very much, paul. Up and all of our experts here with me jeremy san, and let me start with you. Criminal defense attorney, a former manhattan prosecutors. So as i said, youve been in these rooms so were to graph confirms, to contact actually maintained for donald trump, were Karen Mcdougal and Stormy Daniels and that stormy had been to the office and there was discussion about her being in The Apprentice, which stormy herself has just said in that documentary clip i played. Did she give the prosecution what they needed . From her . Shes did. And she did it unwillingly under subpoena. I wouldnt measure her in terms of quantity and measure her in terms of quality, meaning it was short, but it had value. That value corroborates david pecker while theres no theres no agreement, for example no emails, for example understanding how theres a separation, but yet theres obvious communication puts Stormy Daniels there. It absolutely establishes that foundation that is necessary to move it forward. So very basically, if david pecker is, ill use a term, the bread of this, and thats sandwich, you know, youre gonna get michaels pardon me. Michael cohen, whos gonna be the bulk in that middle, but its all that other pieces that puts it together to make it one story that works and cells and is accurate. The all corroborate each other exactly. And as i said, it doesnt whether trump did or did not have liaison with Stormy Daniels may not be relevant to the case, but it is relevant perhaps how the jury proceeds, whether he was wronged and paying. I mean, its important and this goes towards that. Manara also criminal defense attorney, former new york prosecutor, did rhona deliver what you think that she needed even considering she was not she did not want to be there. She was not friendly hey, whats clear to me that she wasnt cooperative, that she did not want to be there because, you know, this woman having worked for donald trump for 34 years, she knows the goods, she knows the good and the bad of donald trump. So she wasnt really wanting to cooperate with the prosecution, but i think as jeremy said, the primary goal of getting from her was one, no emails. And number two, the Stormy Daniels had been in that building because now donald trump cannot deny that he does not know stormy daniel, because you have a confident someone that is close to you, someone that you trust, and someone whos reliable and credible for this joy because she doesnt have an ax to grind, saying that she saw Stormy Daniels inside of that building on the 26th floor where you reside, right . Exactly. And maintaining those contexts. I mean, those are those are those are black and white facts. Now, jeremy, when youre in the room today the defense was not given a witness list in advance. All right. So they dont know whos coming when im sure hes sitting there dreading the day of Karen Mcdougal and it can and sharing for when Michael Cohen walks out there, but nonetheless, what was his reaction when rhona graph comes out and takes the stand . Yeah you know, this was our fourth day of david peckers testimony in from the start, trump seemed not interested. He was zoned out, i think for most of it was a lot of rehashing when they called rhona, perked up stood out, he sat up in his chair. He turned toward her, whos actually watching her testimony. Unlike what david pecker and when his lawyers, who is a necklace, start a question him, he really started paying attention because she started with questions. What did you think of him as a boss and shes a good thing to say about him. She worked with them for 34 years and, you know his lawyer, she asked did he did he respect your intelligence and when she said i dont think i wouldve been there for 34 years if she hadnt. That was the onetime today. Were trump actually crack a smile in court and scene and to be enjoying ronnas testimony. So it was a brief moment, but it was i think actually a positive witness for him, at least that way. Was there any reaction some of these moments that were talking about when its Stormy Daniels was in trump tower, any reaction that really wasnt. And i think it will be interesting to see as this trial goes on get to the Karen Mcdougals on the Stormy Daniels, if that continues to be the case. But so far in this first week of testimony, he has not reacted when they brought this salacious stuff up. All right. Well, so sue meanwhile, david pecker, that four days as part of four days finishes his testimony and obviously youve known him for decades. So the last question asked of david pecker today was, does he believe trump does david pecker believes that donald trump cares about his family, right . There have been a lot of questions about why trump would do these things. Was it to protect his family or as pecker said . Was it for the campaign, but the last question, does trump care about his family . Pecker replies, quote, of of course i do think that cares about his family. That surprised you very much so because trump thinks about trump and his family clearly throughout all this is almost been window the dressing just so it makes him look like hes a family guy, but his focus is always been whats best for me. Thats why he picks the pupil who works with and thats why hes been doing when he just doing with the power play. So the family for politician, obviously its unnecessary optic to have but his feeling towards them. No, theyre just tools for him to advance his own cause and that moment surprised you mean bernardo at the end of the testimony of david pecker and i guess its in a sense, its hard to put it together hi there in its probably hard for the jury to write because it happened over four days and there was a day off in between. I mean, this was a complicated sometimes if he just sat there from start to finish and then we all learned that you dont just do direct and then cross you then do redirect and recross and im thinking, oh, my god, this thing isnt six this week is going to be 16, but thats another thing i who did david pecker helped more david pecker definitely helped the prosecution out more because they laid out david pecker laid out the foundation. He gave us the background information, and he also changed the narrative. This is not just hush money case. Were talking about the purpose of this money. Of killing di stories. Whats that helped this campaign . And youre hearing it . From someone that i think was relatable to this jury. I think the jurys going to find them credible client and believable. So even though he was engaging in these catching kill schemes and you know when we go into small marble use to see the National Enquirer be like, oh, my god, and now we know how that gets to be the front page of the paper. You got the inflammation that this is exactly how it worked out when it came to donald trump and when it came to Michael Cohen. And this is something that i think the jury in plain terms are able to digest and they dont know how to apply this information. But shortly after Closing Arguments and though extra read back to get more of his testimony, read back, therell be able to put it all so jeremy, when you were what else stood out to you and youre talking about the difference that you noticed in trumps demeanor when rhona graff was testifying as opposed to david pecker, was there anything else you notice when move up the jury and their reactions that, you know, and i think the last witness we had run around, i had some interesting in testimony. She talked about trumps, she talked about Stormy Daniels, and then we went to a banker and i think then the atmosphere in the room, it dropped another level. This was friday at 5 00, right . It wasnt your banker up here 3 00, but yeah. Well, exactly. Exactly. And so thats where this trial is headed, at least it seems for the next couple of days, the banker he talked about very mundane regulations and eventually we got to how he how he had opened Michael Cohens bank account, but they were laying the foundation. This is at its heart and so documents, case its got a lot of salacious deals around it, but the prosecution is going to have to take those steps. And so with the jury and with trump, were going to see a lot of downtime in the mix with Michael Cohen and stormy. You gotta mix in a little of this salacious sex, part of the story, right, jeremy, and then put in what its about so to that point, guy pharaoh banker, Michael Cohen calls this guy days before the election sets up this tube to llcs and uses one of them to pay Stormy Daniels on the context of the date, of course, is right after that Access Hollywood tape, which is anyone forget and remember that was when Chris Christie refused to go on a sunday show and defend donald trump, right . This was a campaign and complete free fall at that moment. And this is establishing what the campaign did. And weve said this 1,000 times and i know you would agree with me you dont leave common sense at the courthouse footsteps, you go in, the jury takes that with them and youre following, not the quantity youre following, the quality of that evidence. Now we have rona graph, whos giving you the presence corroborating how things were done in terms of no emails and and setting that foundation now you have the banker who says, here are the fake account without a fake accounts, but here the Shell Companies to move the money to make the payment. Its piece by piece by piece. You cant do this just on the shoulders of Michael Cohen thighs, on the shoulders of Michael Cohen. Right. You need Everything Else around him to lift him up. Otherwise, there is no correct . Right. You cant you cant have it on. I know he has long felt that they were going to do that and that he would be he would say it. But then they would prove it separately from my one to the side. Hes hes critical, but everything around him and stew one thing that is david pecker is now walked off the stand men that had been friends. Again, we put that in quotes, but friends such that they were friends over decades. They have not spoken since the beginning of 2019, according to peckers testimony. So do you think theyll ever speak again . I mean, trump has said things about him this way. If you look at how once pecker told his tail that he was required to he also tried to make friends with trump again, so more like from the godfather, its personal, not business and this is kind of that relationship anyways, so pretty yep description

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