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Proposed to coast on College Campuses vandalism trespass breaking windows, shutting down campuses, forcing the cancellation of classes and graduations. Non of this is a peaceful protest threatening people timid at people. Its filling fair and people is not peaceful protests. Its against the law. Meanwhile, independent senator Bernie Sanders is expressing concern about the war that the protesters are talking about between israel and hamas. Sandra says the war might ultimately prove to be bidens vietnam plus brandnew standoffs between police and protesters at encampments on College Campuses coasttocoast at George Washington university so the here in washington, dc, Dueling Protests with faculty from gw and other areas schools, risking their jobs to try to protect the propalestinian antiwar crowd at Portland State University Police in riot gear showed up trying to clear an encampment, sayyed at the Schools Library and leading this, our Donald Trumps latest false claim concerning his Hush Money Cover Up Trial moments ago after the court date ended, the former president was asked whether he was going to testify in his own defense well im not allowed to test if i am under again i guess i can testify. I dont know. Were gonna be appealing the game. I love to mentioned questions have very easy question, the easiest questions so far but im not allowed to testify persist, judge, whos totally conflicted as there were unconstitutional gag order. Nobody has ever had that before. And we dont like it. And its not fair so thats not true. Donald trump is absolutely allowed to testify. The gag order has nothing to do with whether or not hes allowed to testify bizarre claim, quite frankly, lets now get more insight about what went on behind the scenes in the trump trial today. Lets bring in the Washington Post, shannon jacobs, who was inside the courtroom covering it for the post. Jane has some of these exchanges between trump, attorney Emil Beauvais and Stormy Daniels, karen mcdougal, attorney Keith Davidson, who is a witness on the stand right now. They read the transcript on the reading credibly testi but what was, the actual environment like during that question i think that was right. I think the witness was particularly put off by the lines of questioning by beauvais suggesting that hes a shakedown artist and that hes built his career, his legal career on essentially blackmailing celebrities trying to get significant payouts for clients who have Salacious Stories, whether theyre true or false, but clients who have Salacious Stories that might be a value to celebrities such as donald trump what was the jury doing while trump, attorney hey, beauvais and prosecution witness, davidson, were going back and forth and the jury seem engaged where they following everything the jury has been in my view, engaged the entire hi or time, especially today, there were plenty of exhibits for them to get a firsthand view of what what this part of the defense case is about. There were text messages, there were emails, there was there was real concrete get information for them to see for themselves. So i think thats particularly interesting to them. Getting a window into this world where these types of negotiations its are happening no, its sort of the underbelly of the legal system the photographs we see a donald trump in court. We just showed one where he he looked kind of scowling im sure its not fun to be a defendant and the things he says after cord and before court tend to be rather defiant and angry. What is his demeanor in the courtroom in general . He sits there and it ceiling pretty pretty. Its pretty frequently what his what his Facial Expression is. Hes just very, very described im told is does not like a minute of the fact that he has to be there there are times when hes paying particularly close attention. I think he was sort of locked on beauvais and and his crossexamination of the witness today, there was a point where we heard a recording that Michael Cohen made between him and donalds trump in 2016. It looked like he was leaning in trying to get the best audio on that recording that he could get. Trump while he does close his eyes throughout the day. I did not appear to be sleeping today, but he did appear to be shifting in his seat and closing his eyes to kind of take it easy as he paid attention to the testimony. So before the testimony, before the jury was brought in today, there was another hearing on Whether Trump violated the judges gag order. Once again, judge merchan did not issue an immediate ruling this time, just like he didnt issue an immediate ruling last time. What was your takeaway from the arguments this time pretty similar to the time before the Gag Order Hearing previously judge merchan is not really buying the argument that some of these posts, some of these offensive posts that trump has made since the trial began, and some of these Public Comments hes made that are in violation of the gag order are not protected political speech and not covered by hit. An absolute First Amendment right to say these things. Judge marchand cut short. Todd blanche today when he started getting into another explanation of why some of what trump had discussed some of these for some of these four remaining allegations is a response, a campaign response, political response. Hes responding to other peoples attacks on him sometimes attacks on him from people involved in the case and judge merchan does not seem to find that credible at all. Hes already ruled its not credible. And does not seem to be weighing are reading in trumps favor on this. All right. The Washington Post shayna jacobs. Thank you so much. For talking to us today back with me. The former teeth assistant District Attorney at the manhattan da karen friedman, agnifilo, also, bill brennan, a former Trump Payroll Corporation attorney. Karen moments ago, mr. Trump falsely claims hes not allowed to testify because hes under a gag order. Thats not right . Correct . Testify is a term of art. It means take the stand in court, raise your right hand and swear To Tell The Truth and you testified in front of a court in front of the jury. The gag order has nothing to do with that. Of course, he can testify as an absolute right to testify and he is not restricted in terms of what he can talk about as long as its relevant, admissible evidence. So the gag order has nothing to do with his testimony at trial perhaps hes confused about that, but it only talks about statements outside of court and bill who do who do you think the prosecutors might call next . Do you think Keith Davidson was a good setup for Michael Cohen are or might someone else come, come before . I think theyll probably sandwich a few more innocuous witnesses in between these two and have cohen hes really the show at this trial but i wanted to say one thing, jay kara made a great point, and the last segment when mr. Beauvais crossexamined davidson and it was bought out that well, what he did wasnt illegally was investigated for extortion, but never charged. That jury doesnt check its common sense at the door. They see everything they hear everything. Theres a story in the news now about a politician shooting a dog. And its been said, well, its not illegal in that particular state. Who shoots a puppy, who does that . And the jury is going to get back there. And whether he was charged or not charged or its legal or not. Legos lawyers, we get too focused on the statutes, the laws, the rules, the codes theyre gonna get back there and think who lives like this, who preys on peoples misfortunes. And theyre going to have to tie the defendant to this cd activity. And then even if they do that, theyre going to have to show that it was done to commit another crime, namely Political Campaign violation, or some type of election law its a far reach this things far from over. Karen, i want to get your take on trump attorney Emil Beauvais. His questioning of Stormy Daniels former attorney, Keith Davidson beauvais brought up these controversy involving various celebrities and alleged hush money shakedown extortion, whatever you want to call it, Charlie Sheen paying 2 million to one of davidsons clients, presumably for her silence, how cogen there was a sex tape involving him, tea like a teal. Ive teal at tequila. No idea what that was about, but she certainly an interesting character. Davidsons connection to them. He said, quote, your memory seems a little fuzzy around some of these issues because bove i was asking him about it and beauvais didnt seem end davidson didnt seem to have a lot of direct information, at least direct responses. How do you think this is all going to land with the jury . For him to say he doesnt recall these various celebrities, i think is not credible. Of course, youre going to remember, you might not remember every client, but certainly certain certain celebrities you are going to recall. I got the impression that he was thinking that he couldnt answer the question because maybe it was under attorneyclient privilege or confidentiality agreements, but then he should have said that. But to say i dont recall because you dont want to answer the question that thats not good for the jury, so i didnt love those answers. And if he really doesnt recall because what his answer was, yeah, it did 15 or 1,600 of those back then, so i dont remember who it was if thats the truth i mean, fine. But i dont think the jury is going to like him very much. It is really a cd underbelly of lawyering that make a living out of what many people feel like if feels like extortion, whether its legal looks torsion or not. So theyre not going to love it. Its not great. But i still think at the end of the de, it doesnt matter because these are, this is the circle donald trump traveled in. These are the people he had affairs with. I mess with It Prosecution is going to say theyre going to say we didnt pick that. We didnt pick these people the people that donald trump frequented with thats what picks these people. The prosecutions gotta length as two, donald trump and i think that recording that they play today with Michael Cohen and donald trump was one of the critical pieces of evidence in this case. 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He tried to strike a balance between competing american imperatives, free speech, and rule of law. Take a listen we are not an authoritarian nation where we silence. People are squash dissent. Do either are we a lawless country where our Civil Society . An order must prevail. Theres the right to protest, but not the right to cause chaos. There is no place for hate speech or violence of any kind, whether its antisemitism, islamophobia or discrimination against Arab Americans are Palestinian Americans cnns kayla tausche, is that the white house boards kayla, there already have been times when these protests turned violent and unlawful. I mean i think the Columbia University Orthodox Rabbi told his students two sundays ago that he didnt think it was safer for Orthodox Jewish kids on campus. Why did President Biden wait until now to directly address what so many people have been able to see with their own eyes what was described to me, jake is the need for a steady drumbeat of Law Enforcement involved in these protests, not just oneoff issues here and there on different campuses, but the repeat and sustained involvement of Law Enforcement that essentially peaked the president s desire to deliver these remarks, which he has put out

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