Id front next israel could be just days away from a military operation on rafah. Fareed zakaria joins us. Lets go out front good evening. Im Erin Burnett Outfront tonight. A dramatic moment in court as trumps former gatekeeper and confidence on hope hicks broke down on the stand. Hicks was sitting just feet away from her former boss. This is the moment caught by the Sketch Artist immediately got emotional when trumps team began the crossexaminatio n and asked her about her time at Trump Organization now, that was that particular moment. The reality is from the moment he picks walked into that courtroom, the atmosphere change. This is an important witness. Are reporters who were there say it was almost electric in terms of the change in the room, hicks is as inner circle for trump as it gets and she did prove to be a key witness of the witnesses so far revealing never before known details that frankly were crucial to both sides for the prosecution. When asked if Michael Cohen would have paid Stormy Daniels without trumps approval, she said, quote, i didnt know michael to be in especially charitable person or selfless person. Hes the kind of person who seeks credit. Id say that would be out of character from michael that was crucial there, but then she also oh, painted cohen as someone who often went quote, rogue, helping the defense. She told them under crossexamination, quote, he liked to call himself a fixer or mr. Fix it and it was only because he first broke it. Will no love lost there after nearly three hours, hicks left the stand. Trump did turn and nod to her with a small smile, but she did not look at the man and that she had worked sidebyside for for so many years. So thats according to our reporters who were there. And its trump left chord. He showed little emotion when asked about seeing hope hicks he obeyed the gag gag order so im not allowed to comment on any of that. As you know, im under a gag which is very unprecedented. Paula reid is out front live outside the new york courthouse, and paula, obviously, this was a significant witness and a lot was said, although they did finish it, i guess with alacrity, it was done by the end of the day so what are you now looking for when the trial resumes Monday Morning . Hello, everybody is going to be looking to see who is going to take the stand, whos going to follow this Blockbuster Testimony from hope hicks . Prosecutors have remained at the tightlipped about the order in which theyre going to call their witnesses, even refusing to tell Defense Attorneys who theyre going to call next. Hanging out there is the fact that its onpoint to have to call Michael Cohen. Will that be next week . We just dont know right now who is going to take that stan and follow the fireworks we saw today . Today. Hope hicks, one of trumps former closest advisers, took the stand and the new york hush money trial. Im really nervous. She revealed to the court, as she began her testimony, she did have some warm words for her former boss praising his ability to message. He deserves the credit for the different metal suggests that the campaign focused on in terms of the agenda that he put forth, but she never looked at him during most of her testimony. Instead, focusing directly on the lawyers asking her questions. She testified at length about the impact of the access Hollywood Tape on the 2016 Trump Campaign and how it was a crisis she was the first person and the campaign to learn of the tape what she was contacted by a reporter. I was concerned. She said she also witnessed trumps reaction to the story asked if he was upset. She said, yes. Yeah, he was she also told the jury about conversations she had with former trump fixed sir Michael Cohen, and trump when reports of Karen Mcdougal and Stormy Daniels first surfaced in early November 2016 saying trump wanted to make sure that there was a denial of any kind of relationship in a significant moment for prosecutors, hicks revealed trunk communicated directly her about the payment to daniels. I only know about one instance sometime in the middle of february, mr. Trump told me about it and trump was relieved that the story did not come out before the election. It was mr. Trumps opinion that it was better to be dealing with it now and that it would have been bad to have had that story come out before the election. Hicks appeared nervous throughout her appearance on the stand. And after that key exchange, as Defense Attorneys were starting their crossexamination, hicks broke down in tears. Sorry about that. She said that she returned to the stand. And when trumps attorneys have the chance to question her they got her to confirm that he was worried about his wife, melania is reaction to some of the stories President Trump really values mrs. Trumps opinion and she doesnt weigh in all the time. But when she does, its really meaningful to him we learned this afternoon that trump has that 9,000 fine issued by a judge on tuesday after the judge found that trump has violated the gag order nine times. Now, interestingly, aaron, he paid the fine and two separate cashiers checks, one for 2,000. 01 147000 dollars. Were still waiting for the judges decision on those other for alleged violations of the gag order and understood about the checks to it seemed interesting. Theres got to be a specific reason for it. All right, paula, thank you very much, paul, outside that courthouse where she has been reporting inevitably, through the week. All right. Everyones with me, jeremy herb, let me start with with you because you were there in the courtroom today this moment certainly the most dramatic moment in the room of the trial when who picks is there already a witness that everybody is seeing whats she going to say . The room had already changed and then breaking down at that moment when crossexamination began, how did trump react to that moment and to her testimony . Yeah, that seemed to be the one one point when trump really did express concern about hope hicks and how she was doing as she walked out, he started on his face watching her walk by up until that point, he had not been paying too much attention. The two of them, they did not seem to make eye contact when she was on the stand and it was such an interesting moment because it it felt like it was the end, right . She had just gotten done with the prosecution and gotten done with the hard questions and trumps attorney, emile bove, he was not asking her difficult question. It was not a difficult question that led to this dramatic moment. He pasty, just talk about your time at the Trump Organization, but She Kinda Felt overwhelmed by the moment and perhaps let her guard down. And that is what led to her having breaking down a little. Its also notable when she left the Witness Stand at the end of the day, the president , he gave a look at hurried nodded to her and he gave her a small smile, which is something we really have not seen very often, right . Reiser terror when you were there, i know youve been there every day. You were watching the jury during hopes testimony and also during this particular moment so how did they react and you know, where they all, focused on her, were they looking at what was the reaction in that moment and what do you think caused her emotion . Well, the room was shocked. Ive got to tell you, not just the jury, but also all of The Press Corps was shocked and i think the parties were shocked. She didnt actually start crying. She stopped and she turned to the side and then just kinda got choked up and then bove they asked, do you want to take a break . Lets take a break, judge, has lets take a break. So i think the jury and everyone else was wondering whats going on and i believe the reaction was because just like jeremy said, she had just finished testifying. She said something that was damaging towards trumps. She said yes, he did say its better that this happened before the election then after the election, and i think when beauvais got up there, she felt comfortable. She felt at home. This is my family and sometimes thats a very sensitive moment. Thats when you break down just as fascinating. I mean, daniel hertz as a former manhattan assistant District Attorney you can bend in these rooms, not this particular one in this sense, but, you know whats happening here. So how does a dramatic moment like that effect a jury . I mean, i think jurors are human beings and theyre moved in ways that we all are. But i think at the end of the de, theyre gonna Pay Attention to whether this witness was credible or not, and the fact that she broke down, i think as a message to the jury that this is a witness who we can trust. We understand that she worked for donald trump. We understand that shes here by subpoena, not willingly also, im surely understand and appreciate that this is a sophisticated person, this is somebody who has appeared in front of large crowds. She deals with the media. This is somebody who has worked under incredible pressure and yet here she is breaking down on the stand. This is somebody who takes it serious. Exactly. Is credible so ryan, part of this was the question that came up with her was whether trump was doing this to protect his family, right. As opposed to for the campaign and when it gets, you get to the burden for the jury of whether you can have a little but of one and a lot of the other and still convict. Thats the Question Hicks made points on both sides of that she did say he was concerned about the story. He was concerned about how it would be viewed by his wife, and he wanted me to make sure that the newspapers werent delivered to his residence that morning but then she also detailed how did how involved the campaign wasnt a response and admitted she was very concerned in that capacity by the story, which side wins out here i think the sayyed that wins out as the prosecution because the prosecution old, they have to prove is that one of the substantial motives is the Hush Money Scheme to affect the outcome the olathe only just right. And that human being beings are human beings in which they might have mixed motive. And one is to protect ones wife and then the other one is to try to win the election. And that the damaging material coming out would affect both. So the prosecutors actually one that means that hopes hit hope hicks has actually provided very direct evidence, including donald trump himself telling her this would have been better. Its better than it came out now it did not come up before the election yeah, thats really important for the prosecution so she also when it came to Michael Cohen, terry also gave some really important points the prosecution, but also to the defense. She said he wasnt looped in on daytoday Campaign Strategy and he would go rogue. All right, so thats, that helps the defense, but then she also said he was not at the quote i read at the top and especially the charitable person or selfless person. So the idea he would pay 130,000 his own money out of the kindness of his heart, doesnt really fit. So again, which of those is more powerful . The fact that he would go rogue and wasnt involved or the fact that he never would have done if trump didnt prove it. Well, heres what i think. Trump basically micromanagers, and thats what she said. So the two issues that i would put against each other is one, Michael Cohen goes rogue to donald trump. Michael manages. And so by doing that, it means he knows whats going on. He knows where these checks are going. He knows whats in the ledgers and in fact, he knows about the invoices. So i think that her saying, Michael Cohen goes rogue and saying things about his personality that he wouldnt pay. Okay. Fine. The real issue is whether or not donald trump was involved with a he knew this is an intent crime. We have to show that he actually intended to falsify these Business Records and that he knew about the fact that hes breaking the law here. So did did she help the prosecution get there on that point of Beyond A Reasonable Doubt when it came to trump knowing what cohen was doing. I think they did and i think that you just hit on a very important point. Shes an insider whos worked in the Trump Organization, not just the white house. Shes work with that family for a long time. Shes credible. She knows how what the what the dynamic is between donald trump and Allen Weisselberg and Michael Cohen. And so when she comes in front of the jury after years of working with the trump family and saying, this is how it works. I think there is credibility there about his knowing about what happens with how these payments are characterized in the books and records. So jaime, one thing weve all had been in the courtroom and notice trump has a few specific ways of his carrying his comportment, right . Theres the lean back with the legs forward. Theres the lean in theres the straight. I shot. And youve been able to watch when he uses each of those methods and today you observed him watching hope hicks, but when shes talking about access Hollywood Tape and Karen Mcdougal, he does the sit back with the eyes closed. Okay. What do you observe there . What have you now put together about how he is . Using his Body Language i mean, i think hes trying its better in his mind and probably really in his lawyers mine for him to not be reacting even if his eyes are closed and if the jurors observed him sleeping, thats probably better than the jurors observing him getting angry about these things during the fall when he was in the civil fraud trial, where it was just a judge there was no jury. Trump would react those so much more than what weve seen, what this trial he would shake his head. He would it was just night. It was all out on asleep and so today, one thing that was interesting with hope hicks testimony is you know, he was not completely 20 out as we saw, i think in some cases with david pecker and some of the other testimony, he was watching. Sometimes theres screens up also in the course courtroom that he was looking up and look at the screens where you basically can watch himself, watched hope from there, rather than looking at her, but it felt today, he was certainly more in tune to what to what was going on then perhaps something that screen, i got to say you got to need some kind of eyewear to be able to see this five different cameras is very tiny up there, but but absolutely so ryan, Michael Cohen, going to be a crucial witness. How difficult is his testimony going to be . I mean, honestly, what theyre trying to do leading in is to put all the bad out there and to prove what they need to prove. And then hes obviously crucial, but theyre saying you dont have to rely on him for every one of these pieces. Hope corroborates this Keith Davidson, some corroborates that how crucial is he going to be though thanks so far it still looks like hes crucial because the piece that we dont have is the insight into how exactly the records were structured and he has direct conversations with donald trump about that, apparently, according to Michael Cohen, according to his books and tapes of sun that weve heard. Yeah. And so there are tapes of summer unfortunately, for him or for the prosecution. The tape is out of the Karen Mcdougal scheme. Its not of the Stormy Daniels scheme in which trump is deeply in the weeds about exactly how the payments are going to work. So it really might rely on Michael Cohens testimony. Theres been a lot of layering by the prosecution that a lot of corroboration of other things that cohen will say. Yeah, but some pieces of it might just be Michael Coe Cohen when do they do Michael Cohen knowing everyone on the team . Yeah. What theyre doing is theyre going to make up Michael Cohens sandwich if he would. And what theyre gonna do is theyre going to as they have, theres going to be a crescendo of witnesses that are going to ultimately corroborate him, then theyre going to call him and then theyre going to end the case by again and watching him with witnesses that come to me. The letters out exactly right and terry, whats your whats your expectation for whats next here . Well, its not gonna be Michael Cohen next, but i do think we might have to see a couple more custodial witnesses just because the defense is not agreeing to stick relate to get some of these main mundane documents into the evidence and they could very well do that. We might see some of that i mean, i think we could also see gina rodriguez. I mean, shes been brought up a couple of times. I thought the Talent Manager exactly. I think she might come up to corroborate some of the things theyve been trying to say. And stormy will come up at some point, whether she comes before or after is unknown, but i think were going to go the sixday weeks. All right. Well, thank you all very much. Its been a very busy week and next week even more all right. Next someone who knows trump very well. What she noted but its between the two in court today, trump and hope hicks, Stephanie Grisham is next plus cnn learning israel is now briefing Biden Adm