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The action this morning. Good morning we have this developing story right now, the Israeli Military seizing the Palestinian Sayyed of the raffa Border Crossing following a series of the airstrikes that killed at least 15 people source familiar with israels plans tells cnn the Raffa Operation is intended to keep the pressure up on hamas to agree to a cease fire. And Hostage Release Deal on israels Terms 20 Gaussians have been Heating Warnings to evacuate Eastern Raffa and in tel aviv thousands of israelis taking to the streets to demand the government reach a deal to return the remaining hostages is really negotiators are expected in cairo today to continue Ceasefire Negotiations that are on the verge. It seems of falling apart. Lets bring in former federal prosecutor, Eleia Williams farmer, rnc Communications Director doug hi and seniors. Cnn senior reporter, isaac dover all here with us. Good morning to all of you. Thank you so much for being here. Isaac. I want to start with you on President Biden, and lets really drill into the imperative around a cease fire for him and his administration because this of course, has been something that has rippled across campuses in this country. It has really divided the Democratic Party. And this is something the white house was grappling with all day yesterday as they tried to figure out exactly what whats going on among the parties here. Whats your understanding of how the white house is viewing where negotiation stand right now and the ways in which they are trying to get a cease fire here, as frankly the political imperatives ratchet up on him. A look you hit it there because theres the political imperatives and then theres whats actually going on im in the negotiations and part of the problem that the Biden Administration is facing here and the president is facing, is that it is clear that you dont have a completely honest and forthright broker in hamas to say the least. And theyre also dealing with maybe a situation where they dont have a completely honest relationship coming from benjamin 19 yahoo. And how biden who is from the beginning has said he is not looking at the politics of this. He is looking at this as how to get to a longterm solution on the immediate thing here and in his mind, hopes for something bigger. It is how hes approach approaching this. But look, the politics are there and it is something that is not showing up as something. So far that is as big of an issue for voters as some of the coverage of it has been. But it also maybe is reaching the point where it will be a discourse ill find political issue and its sort of thing where maybe people are saying of the economy is still their top issue. But they, they, when they think about israel and they think about the handling of israel are saying, well, actually cant be with by them and that may where things go. Do you think the administration are actually which probably frame this in terms of the Biden Campaign. Do you think the Biden Campaign believes that if this war is still going on in six months when voters go to the polls that it is significantly more likely they will lose its very hard to tell, right . And especially because of the terms of this election that they know are going to be a sort of reference in a month. Donald trump and all the other things that are gonna be going on there obviously would rather not be in this situation but again, i talked to ted kaufman who was so bad and she for staff for very long time all the way back in october about this right at the start. And he said, listen, nobody has had more years of experience going to them middle east into israel. And joe biden, nobody has sat through more topsecret briefings and he has he has a very clear view of what to happen here. He is. You see it, even when he said last week, when he was asked after his brief statement about the Campus Protests. Sure. Is any of this change your position you just said no, he knows where hes going on this but the politics are running into it it has been an issue that even among his advisers has been a constant topic of congress. Well, and of course the images coming up with the campuses here in the have complicated this for him. Donald trump has been in his Hush Money Trial for most of the beginning of this week. Anyway, but he did after the trial concluded for the day. I have this to say about protests on College Campuses. Watch hello me, just cancel the convention. That shouldnt happen. And it also came out rhoad gestures, many of the protesters are backed by biren shoulders. Okay. Are you listing is your listening, israel. Okoh, getting smart so doug hi how do you see what is playing out on these College Campuses and how it impacts . What were going to see in november because isaacs point and i hear this from biden sources to theyll say, well, this isnt a voting issue for people. Its not a top voting issue for people. But chaos in america tends to become a voting issue in a way that perhaps a were being fought abroad doesnt always know i was on the campus of the university of North Carolina at chapel hill. My alma mater on thursday, which had a flare up of some of these issues earlier in the week and walking on campus, i would not have known that anything had gone on previously. The campus was gorgeous and clean. Kids were playing soccer on milan and things like that. Its partially because our chancellor, lee roberts has done an extremely good job, were a lot of College Administrators of failed and what weve seen is so often, this is often the case in politics, the loudest voices dominate the conversation that shortly the case at columbia and george washington, harvard, and other places. But im also mindful of when we see protests like this. The overwhelming majority of students arent protesting or counter protesting. Theyre trying to get to class. Theyre trying to play some sports, probably trying to meet some codes and try and have the normal college experience. Do we still call them coed . I think so. Some of us are really old but they want to live that normal college experience. They want to have a graduation. And so when we talk about chaos, yes, this can reflect largely on on biden to some extent, if this goes on for months and months, but the students overwhelmingly are tired of the chaos they want to go to class, take their exams, and graduate yeah. I mean, eleia, we saw a little bit of that at the University Of Michigan. We played some from their commencement over the weekend where it was video yes. Of protesters tried i ended disrupt graduation. But what you can hear, were people yelling back at them . Hey, i just want to graduate right and im genuinely curious as to what percentage the video and i dont have the answers on this or not actually students number one and number two are grad students versus undergraduates. Now, of course if people are misbehave having and breaking the Wall No Matter who they are, it shouldnt matter. We talk about this on the program last week, but who is it that thats actually participating here . But to the point, yes, i think a lot of kids or adults, young adults wish to be going through their lives and attending classes and graduating and so on. And the great tragedy here, as with theirs senior year in college, they got disrupted by covid. Yeah, much of their experience is changing, but it doesnt change anybodys right unc one of the people who was arrested was at duke professor. Nothing is ever good. When do people come to unc, but its not just werent great piece of data, doug. 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What did we see yesterday in terms of how but fits into the case that clearly the final punches are still coming. Yeah, absolutely. I think prosecutors have laid out evidence in three areas. One, were payments made to were records falsified, and three, did they intend to commit a crime in the form of a campaign . Now over the course of last week, a lot of the evidence was about the camp painrelated issues, which is that to commit a Crime Portion of prosecutors have to establish that these payments were fault or records were falsified to cover up. This is the campaign. They also yesterday provided all the evidence or some evidence with respect to how the payments were actually made and recorded in the system. So evidenced its in varying forms. Is there the question now is tying it together and to what extent was donald trump aware of this entire quote, unquote scheme, at least is alleged by prosecutors as a matter of common sense, perhaps we can say, yeah, it looks like he probably was aware of the Trump Organization was run like a small family business. One of the witnesses says said that it defies reason to say that he didnt know that these payments are being made. But defying reason and being able to convict are two very different things. And it remains to be seen what further testimony comes that can help tie this together for the jury, and again, i say this every time im on work, two plus weeks into a four or fiveweek trial. There is a lot of testimonies still become and some will be up, some will be down for one side or another, but its hard at this stage to really have a great census or its going doug, hi, we have yet there are some of the likely most salacious witnesses still left to come to the stand and we had a lot of it with david pecker, but we have yet to hear from Stormy Daniels. And of course, Michael Cohen, i guess my question is is this breaking through in any real way, the trial . No. Think of how many bombshells weve had about mental trump that havent mattered. Access hollywood being the most prominent when that story hit on that friday afternoon, a lot of people thought the campaign was over. You can keep track of the days at that stage of the campaign was friday afternoon. Are very well and it wasnt over but it does come with a political impact. Trumps numbers are down a little bit, and justice Congressional Republicans want to stop talking about Marjorie Taylor greene fighting with some of our members. They also want to stop having donald trump be this part of the story. They want to focus on jobs and the economy. Certainly the border, those the issues that joe biden are they planning to you behind this yes. About the trial, was saying they just want to talk about anything else. And again, they have their own problems that they dont want to have to deal with as well with the infighting that were seeing this week. They want to focus on those issues where donald or joe biden is very vulnerable. Thats jobs. The Economy Costs and the border isaac, what is your sense of how the Biden Campaign, as this is unfolding, is viewing it because when we started out, they didnt really want to touch it. The president kind of joked about it at the white house correspondents dinner, but otherwise they are kinda staying out of it. Do they think its breaking through . Do they think it . Any of this rigged system stuff that arguments of donald trump may is making has any resonance with independent and swing voters like how are they looking at it right now in this moment and their general feeling is that they want to be talking about all this stuff that makes the republicans look extreme, that makes donald trump look extreme and not on the daytoday of any of these court proceedings. They they think that for most people the feelings about this are baked in, even though i think is somewhat amazingly, most people have kind of accepted the idea that donald trump probably did have an affair with Stormy Daniels and that there was some payment made entirely possible thats where most people have gotten two, which is itself crazy thing. Right. But how it has litigated in the trial is what were going to see and what the jury decides about whats legal and that will matter. The verdict lift the whole show. Thats people are saying that it will that if donald trump is convicted, that that will have an impact, well see how thats true or whether thats its true but again, what the Biden Campaign wants to talk about is Donald Trumps positions on abortion. Donald trumps positions on democracy dumps trumps positions on all these things that they think put him way out of whack with the American Public and it comes to the formulation that i came jeffreys the democratic leader in the house has about it where he says, the Democratic Team normal versus team extreme, and thats the way they want this to be talked about all right, very interesting panel is going to stick around, but just ahead here get a lot of work to get back in shape. Again a deadly tornado, taryn up central oklahoma. The threat may not be over yet. 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