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Transcripts For CNNW The 20240703

Stormy daniels. The crime according to the new York District attorney is the falsifying a Business Records that were used to conceal the payments to keep Stormy Daniels from telling her story publicly in the days leading up to the 2016 election election but todays fermi daniels told her story under oath explaining how she met trump at a Golf Tournament in lake tahoe. Then got a Dinner Invite where the meeting location turned out to be toms hotel room. Mr. Trump allegedly greeted her at the door and sat and pyjamas and despair, you the details that youve revealed in court will just say one thing led to another another being the alleged Sexual Encounter, but the defense took major issue with much of the explicit content and moved for a miss trial. Saying that all those details that she had been told that the prosecution Ands Permitting have been cautioned not not to tell had nothing to do with the case itself. And the Defense Attorney said that her testimony he had gone over the guardrails that the court had said, judge, one, were sean has denied the motion for mistrial. Stormy daniels right now is being questioned by trumps attorneys. Lets get straight to Cnns Kaitlan Collins. Kaitlan, you were inside the courtroom all morning. What were those moments like in the room is Stormy Daniels testified, especially about some of the details that the jongshinn caution the prosecution from steering away to disk, youre away from i mean, it was uncomfortable, jake and certainly intense and that was what it was just the prosecution questioning Stormy Daniels that was before the crossexamination started. Thats happening right now, but it was kinda this moment in the courtroom where there was actually another witness who testified before Stormy Daniels got on the stand talking about trumps books and quote from him so my frugal he was and how involved he was in his business. No one even remember. Is that because of course everyone at that point understood the Stormy Daniels was going to be the next witness on the stand and she tests justified that she had not seen Donald Trumps since 2007. So its been 17 years and now here they are coming facetoface inside this courtroom as she walked behind him fence table and took the stand and then about ten or 15 minutes into her testimony, the prosecutor asked her to stand up and identified donald trump, and she kinda had to lift up out of her chair. She pointed to him, noted that he was wearing this navy blue jacket, but jake, i mean, it was just remarkable to see how trump was reacting as Stormy Daniels was testifying. And as you noted, going into those explicit details about how they met, he was kind of grimacing at points when she talked about what he said about melania trump. The only time she was brought up that he noted to her that she said they did not even sleep in the same bedroom. He had a scowl on his face for most of the time, but he was paying attention j there was a period for a sustained amount of time where he was closing his eyes like weve seen in other instances, as this travel has been going on, he was paying very close attention. It one point that seemed to be Allen Denials when she was telling stories about that night they met, but but certainly paying attention jake and right now in court, trump attorney susan a. Niclas is suggesting to Stormy Daniels that her story that she told under oath earlier today about a Man Threatening her, necklace, the trump attorney is suggesting that the man never existed. Stormy daniels said, yes, absolutely, he existed niclas said is the story made up Stormy Daniel said none of it is made up in the court is taking a brief afternoon break. I wonder kaitlan, if you could describe Stormy Daniels demean your demeanor. Do you think she came across as credible from the excerpts we were given from inside the courtroom sounded like she tried to make some jokes, even xray to jokes at least once and they didnt seem to go over particularly well with the jury. How did she seem yeah, that seemed to kind of be a Defense Tactic from her. Just essentially talking about her line of work and what she does and obviously its not like an accountant or a publisher sure. Getting up there and talk to you about manuscripts that they review. And that was the witness went before her is i think that was why she was making those jokes talking about her business, talking about certain competitions, that there are miss newton, North America was one of the ones she brought up and she was very personable and casual in conversational. And i think that is why she was kinda im making some of those jokes, but jake, she was speaking very quickly. She seemed nervous when she initially got on the stand. There were at least four instances that i counted where the prosecution they had to ask her to slow down because the Court Reporters couldnt keep up with how quickly she was telling her stories. And then there were two instances where the judge actually intervened and asked her just to directly answer the question that she was being asked not to meander or to give details about what the tile looks like in the of where she said she met donald trump, but that Lake Tahoe Casino and so there were points where it seemed uncomfortable for her to talk about what it was like and it was just so intense in the room. I think thats why i really known as laughing at her jokes. I think there is a real question of how the jury perceived her and how they believed her. The one thing jake, though, that i do think will be hard for donald trump to do Going Forward is to deny having any kind of encounter with Stormy Daniels, which is, you know, to this day he is done because she did have such intense amount of detail of what he was asking her about her putting him on speakerphone about the people that she went with when she went to meet up with him at later occasions. I mean, it was an incredible amount of detail from Stormy Daniels for donald trump, who was sitting there listening to this after hes denied ever even knowing her yeah. And it seemed as though judge merchan, who again, the court started today before they brought in the jury and judge merchan pretty clear that he thought that all that Stormy Daniels in terms of the encounter itself, all that she needed to say was that there had been a Sexual Encounter that they had had sex and anything after that beyond that, he didnt think was needed and yet, the prosecutors and the witness and did not go along with that. And obviously causing the defense to move for a mistrial, which was denied, but who knows what will happen on appeal, assuming mr. Trump is found guilty, which is far from a forgone conclusion it does it did seem as though judge merchan was frustrated with the prosecutors. Tell us about that it was noticeable. Jake, i mean, i took a moment and you havent binoculars when youre in the room because you want to be able to really see their expression to know what youre reporting out. The given there are no cameras and truly there to be cameras because it would make such a difference if everyone could experience what, what a few of us have gotten, the privilege of experiencing in that room. He was noticeably uncomfortable as she was going into some of the details. Really, it was Stormy Daniels is prerogative here though. I mean, the prosecution was asking her pretty openended questions. Tell us about that interaction with trump or explain what the two of you talked about there and she would take those opportunities too. Go into intense detail. I mean it it it was incredibly detailed ill ill say that jake and so there was a question where the judge was there was intense its moment a few moments where they were asking her if she was going into this really uncomfortable detail. You could see trump in his attorneys talking he was passing notes to them. Finally, susan niclas, his attorneys started objecting repeatedly and instead of doing what he has been doing throughout, a lot of this trial where the judges rejected their objections. He was sustaining them. He was going along with them and he took a moment to Say Something to them and to ask after the brief Morning Break to ask the prosecution to make sure that they were keeping her to answer just directly. What is at the heart of this case clearly did not want it going out. And then of course that is what trumps team was complaining about jake when they got back in the room seen as paul read has been watching all of this and reading all of these updates with us and paula, if i was describing the intensity in there, this morning, i mean, this crossexamination took on a whole other level just now. Yeah. And remember at the start of the De The Trump Team was outraged that they had so little notice about who the witness would be. And so little time to prepare their crossexamination will clearly kaitlan are doing just fine. This is a devastating crossexamination. Theyve gotten Stormy Daniels to concede she hates trump. That she said that she would dance if he went to jail. They have pointed to the fact that she has said she will never hey, Him Hundreds Of Thousands of dollars that she owes him. Theyve effectively undercut her credibility by getting her to talk about conversation she had that at pitching her with her own book. I mean, this has been devastating for storage we daniels credibility now, big picture. What does that mean for the case as a whole . Yeah. Well, maybe not much because she doesnt have any direct evidence. The falsifying Business Records what she couldnt explain today is what exactly trump was trying to hide between the access Hollywood Tape and election day in 2016. This illicit Sexual Encounter with a Porn Star Back over a decade prior she was able to explain to the jury that and how she got paid. But i think what we should really take away from today is this is a preview so what Michael Cohen can look forward to this kind of sort of Devastating Eviscerate and cross. Also the idea that they didnt know or that they were caught off guard by Stormy Daniels being a witness. I mean, the Hush Money Payment was made to Stormy Daniels, so i think thats also i was confused by now because every trump did post about its morning. He deleted at minutes later, i saw todd blanche has Attorney Huddling with the prosecutor, right when they got the ct this morning, its unclear if thats what they were discussing, but i mean, walking out of this, they obviously didnt think they were were gonna get a miss trial, but this crossexamination may continue on through this thursday when theyre back in session. Yeah. The only have about maybe 20 minutes when they come back from this break as easily could go through till tomorrow mara, theyre making effective use of social media, something that were likely going to see with Michael Cohen. Everything you have said, everything, you have tweeted can and will be used against you once you get on the Witness Stand as you can see, chose donaldson right now walking back in. Hes got multiple attorneys with him, todd blanch or its epstein who was indicted in arizona recently, alito hubba, there eric trump, a meal beauvais, and several of his political aids and other legal staffers who were there with assault part paulo, sorry, can to do no. What we were just saying . Though, is that look, i think the biggest test for trump Going Forward for the next slide, 45 minutes, is what hes gonna do when he comes out because thats usually when he unloads on his frustrations for the day. I think the most significant legal threat that she poses to trump right now as and hes gonna go off the rails because hes frustrated and violate the gag order. And the judge might have to make good on his threat to send them in jail. I think if he can keep weve put together for the next steudtner 48 hours, however long Stormy Daniels is on the stand, that would really be an accomplishment because this is a test room. Yeah, its certainly as jake, i should also note, what are the aids that was there with him. I noticed using the courtroom this morning her name is natalie harb. Shes former one American News host. She is the aide who travels around with them and basically helps for out all of the articles that you wants to read. The coverage. And hes getting including in real times during these breaks, were told yeah. Its off to print articles. Kaitlan and paula stay with me because i want to bring in our panel and talk more about whats going on. Let me start with you, tom dupree, Cross Examination has been tense very tense, and not just with the Defense Attorneys and mr. Trump also between the lawyer that i mean the prosecuting attorneys prosecuting lawyers, and the judge. But right now, the defense has been pointing out the fact that Stormy Daniels has refused to pay legal fees. She owes donald trump he sued her right for defamation, Something Like that and at what point the defense Attorney Says to daniels, lets bring this quote up. You hate donald trump. Stormy daniels says yes, the Attorney Says you want him to go to jail. Stormy daniels says, i want him to be held accountable the Defense Attorney, you want him to go to jail. Stormy daniels says, if hes found guilty . Yes how might that play with the jury here you have one of the star witnesses, although shes not she knows nothing about the actual crime per say, but Michael Cohen and Stormy Daniels, both of them by their own admission low with the defendant load. Right. And look, this is a classic crossexamination technique. You go after the witness for their bias, their prejudice against the defendant. The idea being that if you can show she harbors massive personal resentment against donald trump, which she clearly does. That potentially would undermine her overall credibility in the eyes of the jury . Great. That shes not calling it as she sees it, that she has a bias, that she has an agenda here, that shes trying to accomplish. I will say this. I thought the way the prosecution handled her direct examination this morning in my judgment, it went too far. I think the prosecutors made a mistake in diving into the details. The salacious details, they turn the proceedings this morning into kind of a not safe for work but then they didnt need to. This is a case about alleged fraudulent Business Recording about how they characterize these payments, what she testified today has no relevance to any of that. And i think the jury very well could say this is going a little too far. Did we really need to hear all of this . What is the prosecution thinking and putting all of this . Stuff in before the jury. So i think theyre paying a bit of a price for it on crossexaminati on this afternoon for going that far inside the courtroom, Stormy Daniels has returned to the stand after a brief afternoon break, and we will bring you those remarks as they as they happen. Oncogene called khardori do you agree with tom, do you think that the prosecution pushed its like a little when it came to the explicitness of the information they solicited from Stormy Daniels. So well, look, it looks like they annoyed the judge a little bit, particularly with some of the details look, there appear to have been some suggestions at parts of this. Were not consensual that Stormy Daniels, Dan Repudiated immediately and that seems have annoyed the judges so she said she was blacked out. That sort of thing. And that seems annoyed him because thats a very thats a very electrifying allegation, doesnt seem to be one. Shes willing to stand behind. It should not have come out i will say her testimony about the relationship. It is relevant. It became relevant when trump denied that the conrad occurred and it became wwe relevant when his lawyers opened on that, when they said that this never occurred. So yes, the government now is to call someone. And one of the ways you shot up someones credibility about a story that they say that they were engaging is you ask them about the details . Or was it what do you remember what happened . I mean, thats trump. Did this trump did this term self. So before the jury entered trumps attorney confirmed that crossexamination of Stormy Daniels are going to continue into thursday. Not a surprise. Its four p. M. Eastern right now. Theres r

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