Line here and then over here is really for the press. And like i said, we might start seeing people within the next few hours because people are anticipating Michael Cohen to take the stand and i have to point out, we have actually met people from all across this bucks an hour for the line sitter. Hes a busy man. All right. Thank you so much im going to let your husband know your birthday present erik. Thanks so much to all of you for being with us. We appreciate it. Its time for anderson good evening. Welcome to our continuing special prompts on coverage of the trump at new york hush money trial. Dave, 14. So im prosecutors focused or a current bookkeeper and a former white house staffer on how closely their boss watched every dollar, including far smaller sums in his jackson Michael Cohen also de, two of crossexamine emanation for Stormy Daniels, perhaps at the defendants behest, whether or not it helped his case. And after the jury left to defense motions, one, to modify the gag order that mr. Trump is under to allow him to talk about Stormy Daniels the other asking for a mistrial for a second time this week, judge, juan for denying the Gag Order Motion saying and i quote your clients track record speaks for itself. He also denied the Mistrial Motion, which the defense had based on what it claimed was prejudicial testimony by Stormy Daniels about sex with mr. Trump. The judge said the defense brought it on themselves by denying a sexual encounter had taken place meaning he said that the jury needed to be able to determine whether to believe her or the defense. He also sculpted the defense for not objecting to items they were now citing as grounds for a Mistrial Prosecutors meantime, said they will not be calling the other woman who is alleging an affair with the former president , Former Playboy ModelKaren Mcdougal, who silence. He also period prior to the 2016 election, afterwards, he had this to say i dont think we have to do any excellent explaining. Im not allowed to anyway, because this judge is corrupt hes a corrupt judge. Judge. What he did or what case ruling was as a disgrace everybody. So what happened today . Hes a corrupt judge, it is totally conflicted as. For the woman he tried and failed to get his gag order lifted for Stormy Daniels. She tweeted this about an hour ago, quoting now, real men respond to testimony by being sworn in and taking the stand in court. Oh, wait. Never mind joining us now, new york Defense Attorney arthur aidala, who was in court today, also bestselling author and former federal prosecutor, jeffrey whove been seen in primetime anchor is abby phillip and kaitlan collins, also someone whos known judge, merchan for more than 15 years, former new york judge jill of khan visor and cnn Kara Scannell has been covering this case from the beginning. Want to talk to the two people who were in court, karen, what did you what was it like at the end when the judge was going back and forth or trumps the attorneys over these motions. It got heated separate and apart from the testimony today, and that was in part because trumps team was arguing for a mistrial. The second time this week that theyve done that and saying that this was unfair testimony was prejudicial. Theyre saying Stormy Daniels changed her story because some of her Testimony Intimated that there was a Power Dynamic at play and a height differential and she wasnt sure she could leave. But they said that that was unfair to the jury because at the time in 2016, she was saying that this was consensual and that is what trump was trying to stop if you believe the prosecution and not these additional details, but the judge said that this was of their own making it said the other day, he was surprised at trumps attorneys didnt object more than that, he sustained the first objection. He objected himself. But today he went even further and he said, why on his talking about trumps attorney, why on earth she wouldnt object to the mention of a condom. I dont understand. So he was saying that they let far too much detail come in themselves before they objected and he was saying that, in fact, because they denied that this affair ever happen, that the jury was it was fair for the jury to hear the detail to draw their own conclusion about whether they believed her or not. Okay. Heres what i really want to know what we were outside the Court Reading your missives and others are reporters inside the court. It was very hard for us on the outside. Weve talked about this on the heir to see to get a sense of how was the jury responding to this tends crossexamination of Stormy Daniels serwer, dad was at times seemed more relaxed perhaps than she had been in her actual testimony. The previous day, although its hard to tell just from from text messages. But she seemed to be laughing more and im wondering want to get your taken also than arthur because you were also there. What was it like inside the courtroom well, how was the jury responded i mean, out of the gates, Susan Necheles, just with pounding her with questions and daniels was responding so quickly that twice the judge had to both tell them stop. Youre talking over each chapter the Court Reporter can take this down. So it was very combative, but daniels was holding our ground. She would she was making some jokes. She made a joke about being pressed on how shes profited from this. And she said, will not, unlike mr. Trump over there, whos profited from his indictments this jury is very poker face. I have not seeing any reaction from them reacting to testimony. Theyve just taken it all straight. They take notes, a number of them flip through their notepad, but i have not seen any reaction. The only reaction i saw from a juror today was when a different witness had become emotional, they lifted up a box of tissues and hanako, the Security Officer who handed it to the witness, but otherwise, ive not seen any reaction. They just follow it like a tennis match. Lawyer witness, lawyer witness, going back and forth, are there well, just picking up on the jury, being in the courtroom for the first time, i always one of the things i gauge of how serious a juror is taking this probably most important thing they do civic duty was is how they dress. Do they come in like slaad, like they dont care or they dressing like theyre going somewhere that matters. Im not saying you have dressing, you going to a wedding, but they they they looked like a professional jury and yes. What qarrah said, like, theyre just susan stormy susan stormy, they would go back and forth let me just put my cards on the table. I went there for one reason today. I went there as a student Susan Necheles has a reputation in the Legal Community of being a spectacular lawyer. And i went there to learn from her and i did and what i learned was it just solidified when i knew there is no substitute for preparation. So all stormys quick answers back, susan had a retort right back at you. Oh, really . Well, lets go lets talk about what you said to Anderson Cooper. Oh, really, lets look, lets look what you wrote in your own book. So she had it off the top of her head and then shes able you live much technology. Then shes able to call up on the big screens exactly what she wanted to see the whole thing with the saints candle, the saint of indictments. She call a picture and she made it very clear that this was number one about money you wanted to make money. And i and she said, i didnt get paid for the Anderson Cooper interview. And then susan commonly says, but how much money did you make after the Anderson Cooper interview . You made 800,000 on a book advance. You may 200,000 on a television show. You got the hundred and 30,000 so you made millions . No, i didnt make millions. Thats only 1 million a little bit more than 1 million. So i didnt make millions. So it was obvious the whole thing about money was off base. But overall, amazon, she held her own. I mean, pardon the pun, but she she weathered the storm Susan Necheles is broader storm and i even say like her Body Language like towards the end, she was kinda firm. I thought qarrah jokes kind of felt flat. She tried to make like three or four jokes. No one really laughed. The biggest part that i was like are hot lets susan said Susan Necheles, the Defense Attorney said. So youve written the scripts for is it 150 Pornography Movies . And she gets all proud stormy saying, yes. And i think she said i directed in them and so, you know how to write imaginary sexual encounter theres dont you . And isnt that what happened here . No. This was real and if i was writing about it, i would have written a better story than this one. But it just goes to her credibility. But overall, like weve been saying, shes not a material witness, shes doesnt the end. Susan says, do you know Something Like how he keeps his checks . It keeps us checkbooks. You know, how the books and records because i kept no, no, no, no, no. Geoff its why i just want to say because its interesting that you say youre going to see susan. She has this reputation as this tough Defense Attorney. She certainly was tough in the crossexamination of Stormy Daniels on tuesday. Its interesting how they ended today though, because the judge took a serious amount of time is qarrah was noting there when he was denying their motion for a mistrial to really focus on Susan Necheles, less particularly his her name multiple times and trump was kinda seated back in his chair like this with this kind of scowl on his face, listening to the judge really condemn trumps team for how they carry that out. Susan nicholas was the first attorney me in that chair, Stormy Daniels, which was initially on the witness stand. And when they were getting into those graphic details, which the prosecutor has made clear today, they held back on a lot of what was in their initial interview with Stormy Daniels. Thats why they embarked denied this motion for a mistrial to judge. But the judges decision here was so thoughtful that he said yesterday, and theres no court. He went into his chambers and he reviewed the testimony from tuesday. He went over it and he looked at the past evidence of her interviews and what she had said previously said her accounts, not all that different. She didnt come in here and say things that are all that different and he said what kara was noting, which is essentially that you guys made this a decision for the jury because you came out on your Opening Statement and questioned her credibility. So the prosecution had to restore very important point about about her consistency but limit let me just read what the judge said. He said about sermon down his version of events code. I disagree with your narrative that theres any new account here. I disagree that theres any change in story whats happened is people have gone into more detail than they originally really planned, right . And i felt the big difference between yesterdays best examination and today was that yesterday Susan Necheles has very much focused on stormys hatred of trump and her financial motives. Today, she went into a new area which was trying to prove that the description of the sexual encounter was different in that i think was a mistake. I think thats a waste of time. It allowed stormy to talk about it. Again, i think the judge is right. I dont think there were any major inconsistencies and that struck me as an example of one of client maintenance, that this was because trump wanted to dispute the weather, the sex took place even though in my opinion, maybe you disagree, maybe you all disagree. Thats just not a worthwhile area that i think you made me write about client maintenance, but one of the Things Anderson that also stood out total silly answer from stormy. Susan says, you testified here today that you guys never ate anything. You ordered dinner with theyre never came up. Thats true. Well, let me read from i believe it was your book where you said we came up and we had dinner together. So in your own book, youre saying you had dinner and now youre saying you never eight stormy goes what were i come from saying you had dinner with someone, doesnt have anything to do with food. It just means that the time of day you dinner time to actually had example of who care i mean, what your Defense Attorney you got to hit every little. But there were a couple of exchanges like that that did come out of illicit. Why are we even talking about this . I mean, i think generally when a lot of the Make America Horny Tour right . I dont want to see if that everyone is talking about almost misses the point. Because if there are discrepancies between what the witness said in the past off the stand, as opposed to what she said here, that is never ground as for a mistrial that is grounds for crossexaminatio n. Thats the purpose of cross so its a base an argument on a mistrial that somehow the story has changed to me, makes absolutely no sense at all. Infinity, i dont think that was the argument. I think the argument was we should have a mistrial because it was two inflammatory to improper. I mean, it is i think they are good enough lawyers to know that crossexamination allegedly inconsistent stories isnt the quote from todd blanche, at least what i read was this is not the story she told us and we were not prepared for that something along those lines, which sounded extremely as you said, something that a lot player would never, would never credit because thats the whole point of cross examination. Keep bringing it back to this is a case about documents. Why are we getting into such detail about sex . And the judges saying because you open saying that that this never happened and thats why the prosecution thats extremely important because if the point is that never happened, then Stormy Daniels is a liar and have Stormy Daniels as a liar, the people then have a responsibility to pull out as much detail as possible. So this the jury can decide to credit. Thats what the judge thats what the judge essentially said. I felt like these demeanor from tuesday to today about the usefulness of stormys testimony and the detail really shifted. He seemed to really kind of settle into the idea that it was actually more necessary than not. I also dont think that any of the inconsistencies even speak to the most important part, which is if they want to claim the sex didnt happen, none of those details, whether its the dinner or anything else, really go to that. So im not sure that they really scored any points on that front except to seem like perhaps they were nitpicking on small things that really had nothing to do did it seem in the courtroom . I mean, just reading it from outside. It seemed like they were kind of shaming Stormy Daniels in some of the crossexamination for what she does for a living, did it did it feel like that in the courtroom . So its funny is that i talked to her two colleagues who are in the courtroom with me, lauren devalue, and jeremy herb, and none of us took it as shaming, which is what some people i think on the outside took it as it seemed more that she was challenging her on. Why would any of this be surprising to you . Youre a professional and not that you to have been with so many different people. And Stormy Daniels reaction also did not seem defensive in that respect. She was correcting her on the difference in it, but not seeming defensive about being asked that question was about the fainting. I mean, thats where susan i agree with you, but thats what susan when after a little bit shows she goes, how many movies have you been in . Like 200 and youre absolutely naked, right . And youre having sex in front of all these people, right . But now you come out of a bathroom and theres a 60 yearold man and boxer shorts and a tshirt. And for that reason, you almost fainted. And say, well, i didnt think it was just a little obvious. Theres a difference between acting in a movie and something in your purse regular movie, jeff went up but dont get danya i dont know how a jury is going to react to that, but it doesnt seem to be implausible that she would have a different reaction, blacks out. Well, she did she didnt fly. She said she almost black. I do think it was not a great look for susan to be schooled by stormy about what pornography actually is when stormy had to say its real, its not something that she makes up in a screenplay, by the way, is a film buff. I love a gang. Good, didnt reference the only one in this panel who really has seen that multiple times, judge, count adviser. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Up. Next details from the full trial transcript, which just came out, Cnns John Berman joins us for that and later which from biographer Maggie Haberman and york times reporter Maggie Haberman made of her day in court, or take on how the former president handled hearing more unflattering comments from Stormy Daniels and the fact they were listed by his defense team, and how a Jury Consultant thinks all of this land do mat