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CNNW Erin July 3, 2024

Outfront starts. Right now. Outfront next, Michael Cohen set to take this this case for prosecutors. So is he ready for this moment cohens former lawyer ease out front. Loss from Stormy Daniels to the judge, the alarming growing threats targeting key players in trumps trial. And the Breaking News, a new Biden Administration report says it is reasonable to assess that israels use of us weapons in gaza could violate International Law. At least one democrat though says that report ducts the hard questions lets go out front good evening, america hill in for Erin Burnett Outfront tonight. The final major witness in the Trump Criminal Trial now confirmed Michael Cohen, trumps former attorney and fixer set to take the stand when the trial resumes on monday. And of course, much of this case really hangs on Michael Cohen, someone who the defense will say has deep credibility issues. Cohen though, is seen as the one potential witness who can help prosecutors proved the crux of their case that the Hush Money Payment was made to influence the 2016 election. Cohen says trump repaid him for that 130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels money that trump again claimed today was simply for cohens legal fees construction building, something concrete or electrical gloss the gold. Very simply Legal Expense to lawyer a lawyer, not a fiction. It was a lawyer its course, its important. Remember, trump himself actually admitted in a tweet in 2018 that the payments he made to cohen were in Fact Reimbursement for the Hush Money Agreement De In Court that tweet was read aloud and entered into evidence. What mr. Cohen and attorney received a monthly retainer, not from the campaign and having nothing to do with the campaign from which he he entered into through reimbursement, a private contract between two parties known as a Nondisclosure Agreement or nda. Brynn grass is outfront outside the courthouse tonight, So Breanna Short De but a busy day in court bring us up to speed. Yeah yeah. Erik, i mean, really jurors have the weekend to digest what was a seesaw going of testimony between the drama of Stormy Daniels to basically evidenced by being admitted emails, text messages, phone calls from witnesses like we saw today. This all ahead. Of course, the prosecutions main witness, like you just said, Michael Cohen, remember he is the person who said he would take a bullet for the president. Now he could be the person that helps the prosecution when its case the prosecution continuing to build its case against donald trump today teeing up Michael Cohens key testimony, cohen expected to be called to this dandan monday, so lawyer not a fiction. A lawyer. There is no crime and they failed to show up earlier in the de madeleine westerhout, trumps former director of oval office operations, crossexamined by the Defense Trump attorney Susan Nichols asked, would you see him signing checks without reviewing them . Yes. Westerhout replay confirming trump would sign checks sometimes while on the phone or in a meeting was to her exchange smiles with her former boss as she left the stand your next president of the state a flurry of other witnesses taking the stand to helping the prosecution lay the groundwork for cohen, kinda looking forward to it sooner this thing starts. The sun to this thing finishes, and that way i can add this too shall pass analysts from verizon and at t Sharing Phone Records as trumps attorneys already attempting to sow seeds of doubt a meal bobi asked, youre familiar with the concept of a pocket dial. These records dont reflect the content and of these calls, correct . An at t analyst answered employees from the District Attorneys Office also introduce text messages, business vouchers, and several tweets from trump about cohen, including this one from 2018, the day after cohen pled guilty to tax evasion and Campaign Finance violations, if anyone is looking for a lawyer, i would strongly please suggest that you dont retain the services of Michael Cohen. Trump wrote, hello, how also revealed call logs relating to this September 2016 conversation with trump cohen recorded wont have to pay me getting old. I got no chance. Cohen claiming the call was referencing another Hush Money Payment for playboy model Karen Mcdougals alleged affair with trump trump not paying close attention to the testimony from later witnesses and was seen using a highlighter and flipping through possible News Clippings is trellises scans. Its something aside from cohen and prosecutors say they have one more witness to call before they can rest their case, possibly by the end of next week. Erica, then of course, its the defenses turn in the big question is, will donald trump take the stand . Erica, that is a vague question brain. Appreciated. Thank you. So as we look at where we stand now, ryan goodman, theres a lot riding on Michael Cohen for the prosecution. What does he need to do so he has to provide direct evidence that according to his own book, he says that hes in direct conversations with donald trump in which theyre discussing the very details of the hushmoney payment grossing him up for taxes et cetera. Thats what he offers and then it comes back to the white house, february 2017, and they do it again. They talk about the exact details. So thats all going to be carried out thats what hes going to present. And then what he has to do is remain credible under withering crossexamination in which he will be exposed in so many different ways about lying to all three branches of the Us Government. And whatnot speaking of what is expected for the defense, joey jackson, my Criminal Defense Attorney here the crossexamination of Stormy Daniels was personal. It was combative. She did push back a little bit. Is there a lesson there though for Michael Cohen as hes going in in terms of, you know, what the defense through it her were going to see at least twice that i would imagine for him. Yeah. Erica may be more i mean, theyre gonna throw everything and the kitchen sink just stepping back before we step forward, i think the thing with Stormy Daniels was their boss, mr. Trump saying, look, i want you to emily eight her i want you to embarrass her. I want you to go in and do everything. And that was a mistake. Because its about the jury, not about donald trump, however, is it about being effective versus vindictive . Its yeah, absolutely. I think thats so wellstated. Erica, its about the effectiveness before the 12th, who have to ultimately by unanimous decision, verdict say that theres either guilt or lack thereof. But as it relates to cohen, we know the defense is going to attempt to lambaste him. You are a convicted felon. Is that right . Youre a perjury. Is that right . Yeah. Ally, before congress. Is that right so many things theyll go after him with. Now what the prosecution i think has done is theyve launched what i call a preemptive strike. What do i mean what theyve done is theyve used witnesses essentially to tell the story that Michael Cohen would tell. So you dont have to what theyll say in closing argument, believed Michael Cohen at all, we have reasonable inferences that can be drawn from all the other witnesses, which would suggest that exactly what hes telling you is true. Call them a felon coma perjure column. What you want, but everybody else speaks to the truth of his testimony, which ranks to one thing which is guilt thatll be the argument of prosecution is it would you bring up in terms of his credibility issues, right. This is the not so elephant, i guess in the room, jeremie, because it has been brought up since the beginning, but weve also seen it come up in testimony from a number of witnesses. Yeah. Not only are the witnesses told the story, theyve also told the story of how Michael Cohen is very unlikable weve heard from a witness after witness after witness about i have a list of quotes here david pecker says he was prone to exaggeration. Keith davidson, he was a jerk. Why did i have to deal with him . Because no one else wanted to talk to Michael Cohen, hope hicks, she said that he was the fixer because he first would break things before and then have to go fix them. And so i think what that has done is its prepared the jury to not expect that theyre going to like Michael Cohen and that if they do find some of the crossexamination where his evicted inevitably probably going to be combative if they find that offputting. Thats what theyve already been told to expect, you know, even before we start with opening statements, that one of the prosecutors said during the during Jury Selection that the witnesses here have baggage. They theyve been upfront about that. And now were going to see that baggage come out into the open. Yeah, we certainly are this unsavory characters they were talking about in Jury Selection. Ryan. So everyone is anticipating Michael Cohen likely to be on the stand for a couple of days. I think everybodys really waiting for the crossexamination there. But when it comes to bad and clean up here for the prosecution were expecting another witness after Michael Cohen. Who do you put out there . Just basically seal the deal for the prosecution after the Michael Cohen testimony. So you would think ideally the prosecution when somebody strong who can be the as we say, sandwich, Michael Cohen with somebody on the backend. You can also do clean up if he gets its dirty. Read by the Defense Council and the like. They dont seem to have some star witness like that, rather theyll just have somebody whos going to do a summation. Maybe will show all the call logs, the house, white house logs, and then show according to the timeline how everything matches up so that will still be a presentation for the jury in a formidable way, but nothing no other kind of star witness. Seems to be coming forward dangerous thing to see how well how well that works or doesnt all these things that were anticipating meantime, there was some activity in court today, so we had the second day of testimony from Donald Trumps former assistant in the white house us, back on the stand she when she was out there, jeremy today, what did you make . There was some interaction between her and the former president smiling at one another. Youre in that courtroom, you get to see this firsthand every day. What was that like . It is always interesting to see when he engages. This isnt i think the pattern bring that weve seen is when its his former employees, when his assistant in the White House Run a graph as longtime assistant, but trump work that has been when he has been most at ease and happy, smiling at the witnesses as they come by and come out. And she was happy to see him. We heard her break down in tears on thursday and it was as she was talking about how she wrote a book to defend she clearly is very much in his cam, unlike some of his other former aids. So i think thats interesting to see on the witness stand. The other thing weve seen is he likes having allies in the gallery outside, pass the witness. Dan, i watched him walk by today as he went out, he made a point to stop at jeanine pair of the fox news hosts. She was there, she was there today in the courtroom. He came my padded her on the shoulders hi to her. He was happy to see her and weve seen a parade of others, rick, scott, and some of his other aids as well, gotten this week . Yes. Its been a busy weekend, so theyve been a fair amount of people there in support of him. Joey, in terms of that testimony today, to she was talking about how when donald trump would sign these checks, right . This has come up a lot. He didnt review all of them. He was multitasking let me was signed checks. He was doing other things. Thats a nice point for the defense. Its a great point if you believe it right now, not that you dont believe the multitasking because certainly you have to believe that hes doing a number of things. The issue is the attentive to detail. You can multitask, but certainly know specifically what youre doing and you dont sign checks that are what, 35,000 a month to. So when you just nothing to see here, here you go. Instead, you sign on with a sharpie pen, right . You meet in the white house, which they have testimony of not even thinking about cohen and what hell say, but they havent been the white house. They have the discussion between mr. Cohen and the president in the white house. You have these checks that are being sent to his security. That is trumps Security Person theyre being shuffled into the white house in a manila envelope, right where she could they dont have to go through White House Security protocol with personal mail. You go and ultimately he signing these things and hes sending them to Michael Cohen, but he didnt know what he was doing. He had no idea. And by the way, theres a tweet saying i reimburse them, but you sent a tweet saying you reimburse them, but now you didnt know what you assigning. Its a credibility determinations. Shes not there try to hurt him. Remember, theres a relationship there and i think thats something thats easily dispatched by the prosecution. We will be watching jelly ryan jeremie. Appreciate share me happy birthday. Thank you. Thank you. Happy birthday. Outfront. Next, judge. Merchan on warning Michael Cohen to keep his mouth shut ahead of his upcoming testimony. So can hate his former hello, air joints me next plus Breaking News. The Biden Administration says it is reasonable to assess that israels use of us weapons in gaza could violate International Law. That report comes after biden told aaron some american weapons have been used to kill civilians. 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