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Get robin has gold and make your cash or and 5 apy joined today and get your burst 30 days free. Im more in liebermann at the pentagon. And this cnn welcome to the lead on jake tapper. This hour, the combative crossexamination of Michael Cohen has Donald Trumps legal team picks apart his testimony in the New York City hush money cover up case. Who will the defense call if anyone will, trump himself. Take the stand. The former president has evolved on that question, plus israels deadly strikes in gaza, local hospitals reporting at least 40 People Killed. Israel says they were targeting hamas War Room Imbedded in gaza. Here, what winning . This is told cnn about the attack and a reversal from President Biden announcing new tariffs on chinese goods, but didnt he knock trump for that when he was candidate biden will roll the tape lets start the hour with the hush money cover up case, though. Cnns paula reid, is that the court but in manhattan, paula, today the defense got its first crack at questioning Michael Cohen and they came out swinging they sure did Jake Everything Cohen has said about trump i can and will be used against him in this crossexamination under this intense questioning from Todd Blanche Cohen was painted as someone who is obsessed with trump, the Defense Attorneys brought up the fact that prosecutors have asked cohen multiple times to stop talking about this case, and he would not. They also laid out how he has profited from his relentless attacks on the defendant, including millions of dollars that he has received for his book deals for his part, cohen caught too much of this up. Youre pretty steady on the stand though, as im sure you saw todd blanche was really jumping around a lot to a lot of different leinz of questioning and told this was tactical. His cohens that year long Preparation Shin with prosecutor but here, Defense Attorneys trying to knock him off his game tomorrow, theres no court jake, the last time the Trunk Defense Team had a break between their crossexamination. It was Stormy Daniels and they came back on thursday with a lot of new material after working long hours to continue to prepare. And also after getting some feedback from their clients. So thursday should be wild. Earlier in the day prosecutors asked michael oh, cohen about the alleged crime that is at the heart of this case. These invoices that he wrote to trump that were reportedly fall also five to cover up the Hush Money Payment to Stormy Daniels ahead of the 2016 election. Tell us what cohen had to say about that well this is some of the more sober testimony. It is the most important to prosecutors in this case cohen testified while prosecutors introduced or showed him each of these checks that he received in 2017, eventually totaling 420,000. And for each check, cohen confirmed that, yes. He falsified invoice saying that it was for Legal Services when in fact it was part an effort to pay him back for this hush money also give them a bonus and pay him back where some other money that trump owed him. Now, he also testified to a meeting between trump, ally and weisselberg, the former Trump Organization cfo, who is currently in rikers and himself, were they agreed to this alleged conspiracy . The question now, jake, is whether defensive attorneys can do enough to undercut cohens credibility to make jurors doubt his account of what happened in that meeting all right. Paula reid, thanks so much. Lets discuss with Washington Post justice reporter peri stein, whos the coauthor of the trump trials newsletter. We also have with us criminal Defense Attorney bernardo vega, lona peri yesterday, you wrote that the jury in trumps trial for weeks have been told Michael Cohen is difficult aggressive, and even a jerk. But you think that jurors are seeing a kinder, gentler version of cohen on the stand does that include today when the defense got their shot at him, how did the Kindler Gentler Cohen fair when faced with a tough inquisition . Yeah it included today up until crossexamination started after lunch. What you saw is you saw todd blanche trumps attorney really do these rapid fire questions to really point out the lies that cohen has told in the past. Instead of having these decisive com, answers he was a little more wishy washy. He said, oh, that sounds like something i would say or i dont recall, he seemed to remember a lot less this time around but i think part of the intent of that questioning was to be fast, was to skip around in Chronological Order and to get him a little confused. Bernardo today cohen testified about the documents that were allegedly falsified. His invoices and the other ones that trump did to cover up the Stormy Daniels payments before the 2016 election the falsification took place in 2017 this is the this is the crime at the center of the case. Its a misdemeanor it bumps up to a felony. If the jury buys the idea that this was done in furtherance of election interference from hiding this from, from the american people. Do you think the jurors got all that i think so jake because when you think about it from what two Michael Cohen testified yesterday and today. One thing that is clear that i got from Michael Cohen is that Michael Cohen was a lot while youre less to donald trump, Michael Cohen was Donald Trumps ride or die and was willing to do anything including being in shot for donald trump. So that was clear no mentioned doing Michael Cohens testimony that you get that this had to do with trying to say the emotions of melania or trying to prevent her from finding out this inflammation instead, everything was driven of Stormy Daniels and this story coming out because they knew it would affect the campaign. So in terms of his testimony, i think it was clear to the jury that that was the purpose and hiding geas pay lets very trump had a bunch of allies with them today in court, not just including his legal team or his son and daughterinlaw in included north dakota governor doug burgum, who might be on the vp shortlist, perhaps congressman Byron Donalds and cory mills of florida cnns caroll chris can tell reports that when they went back into the courtroom in the middle of cohens testimony, judge merchan looked visibly a at theyre coming in in the middle of the trial. Did you notice this . And how typical is that for trial . House . Yeah. I mean, every judge has their different roles, different leniency. I didnt particularly see that, but it has been an odd day today. Just because this whole thing has kind of played out like a vip stakes, right . I mean, you have donald trump running for president , who is stuck in court all day. And these all who seem to maybe want to be his Vice President , theyre showing his support here, even saying things that the gag order prevents trump from saying they came out, attacked Michael Cohen and which trump cant do under the gag order. So this whole situation is unusual. Bernardo, the prosecution spent a lot of time today introducing a new character criminal defense fans, attorney, robert costello, who worked closely with Rudy Giuliani cohen said costello offered this back Channel Communication from costello to rudy to trump in spring 2018 to make sure that cohen was not going to flip. Explain why this is important to the crime in this case. And do you think jurors were following all that . I didnt. The importance of it as well i think that jury was able to see that this Robert Castello guy, this attorney, was definitely a shady character that he didnt have the best interests of Michael Cohen . Yeah, that would that was definitely clear because he was also so brazen in terms of his emails from Michael Cohen about what his desire is about he how he has close connections to Rudy Giuliani, and it will be in his bets interests to go with him. And at one point saying that he was even upset that Michael Cohen its entertaining trying to go to another attorney was clear from that testimony to me, is that you can argue consciousness of guilt on the part of donald trump that youre pushing this attorney at the joint Defense Agreement to be able to cover yourself and make sure that this attorney is looking off the bets into is of donald trump. And not that of Michael Cohen. I have to say this, i think because Michael Coleman was a former attorney, wasnt attorney at the time that he was able to see through the bs and see that he was because be used and part of this is what hurt his feelings and actually woke him up to seek that hes no longer part of that colt and he needs to be looking out own best interests still a bit of a mystery who the defense will call the testify. If anyone. Lets look back at what trump himself has said about the possibility of his testifying i would have no problem testified. I didnt do anything wrong im testifying. I tell the truth. I mean, all i can do is tell the truth and the truth is that theres no case they have no case. Well, if its necessary right now, i dont know if you heard about today. Today, was just incredible. People are saying the experts, im talking about legal scholars and experts theyre saying what kind of a cases is there is no case. Well, im not allowed to testify. Im under a gag i can testify but the ganglion is not for testify bernardo your Defense Attorney, would you let trump take the stand in this case if you were representing him . If i were representing donald trump, two things ill make sure that i get paid upfront and zach and i was strongly advise him not to testify because of course of decision to testify as of the defendant alone not of the attorney. So several reasons why he shouldnt testified. Each and every tweets, each and every pulse, each and never every hello say hes place every statement that hes made in his book, hes going to be confronted with it. So everything that prosecution has put an evidence, hes going to be confronted within any snack going to have a good explanation. Hes going to play well in front of this jury. Secondly, about that, the sandoval hearing, hes going to be crossexamined as to the e. Jean carroll final fine thanks to new York Attorney general binding and also how he was fined a 5,000 and 10,000 in contempt. So he says to open to so many things that hes not going to fare well in front of this drug. So they no bernardo veo lona, and apparently stein to the Washington Post. Thanks to both. You really appreciate a great to see both you as the trump trial plays out in new york, legal action in dc might put a former trump adviser closer to prison himself. The department of justice, once a federal judge to order steve bannon to begin serving a before month prison sentence. Cnns evan pedis is here and evan bannon had remained out of prison while his appeal of a contempt of Congress Conviction played out. But that conviction was upheld, right . It was upheld jake by the dc Court Of Appeals. And now the Justice Department is telling the judge who oversaw the case and who put his time of imprisonment on hold. Theyre asking for the judge to order him to report to prison and theyre pointing out that because this the dc circuit has already rejected as appeals, that theres really no good reason and unless hes just trying to delay that that process, of course, that is part of the game here because steve bannon, of course, is hoping that donald trump wins in november and perhaps could wipe away this whole thing. The judge, carl nichols, whos overseeing this case, jake has ordered bannon to respond by thursday on what to do about this. Ill point out, jake, that that his attorney, david shown, has already put a statement saying that theyre planning to continue fighting this. Theyre going to ask for a further appeal with the Court Of Appeals and perhaps beyond that, jake. All right. Evan perez. Thank you so much. A gag order may keep donald trump from saying anything publicly about witnesses such as Michael Cohen but that is certainly not stopping his supporters. 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They are doing this intentionally to keep him here keep him off of the campaign trail. I came here today on my own to support President Trump because i am one of hundreds of millions of people. And one citizen who is deeply concerned about this under a gag order, trump himself, risks jail time if he attacks witnesses in his this trial. So now his political allies, including speaker johnson are doing what trum

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