Where this trial gets underway in just a few hours morning disorder in the court. The prosecutions star witness sing a reimbursement far greater than the payment that he had made on the companys behalf. Trumps son, eric, taking notice in real time with this tweet declaring, quote, this just got interesting cohen under redirect, explaining he stole the money because his annual bonus had been slashed. He described it as selfhelp then there were the fireworks. Robert costello and former Legal Advisor to cohen, and now a Trump Defense witness was scolded. Shall we say . By judge merchan for uttering comments under his breath and rolling his eyes during testimony. The judge clearing the courtroom and threatening to have costello removed, warning him when theres a witness on the stand. If you dont like my ruling you dont say jeez, you dont give me sayyed, eye and you dont roll your eyes to be continued. This morning, our panels here from our federal prosecutor, elliot williams, republican strategist, former Trump Administration official shirt michael singleton, and former Biden White HouseCommunications Director kait betting field. Good morning. All it was a fun day in court yesterday so the stealing thing, lets start there and then well go to the eye rolls because we are say those words then the last button not the foreign de yeah, i dont even repeat the words, right . Yeah. Were past as the onto this is the porn. But anyway, its its its very, early for all of that so the stealing thing, it is actually technically not new because this was something that Michael Cohen said under the direct, the initial direct examination, our colleague, elie honig, though compared and was raising questions about how the prosecution handled this. He basically said, look, under under direct examination, what came out from Michael Cohen about stealing this money amounted to this watch ive yada yada i met this lawyer. We went out to dinner. I had the lobster bisk. We went back to my place, yada. Yada. Yada. I never heard from him again that basically it was yadda, yadda, yadda under the prosecution, but that this was stunning from the defense the way that they portrayed it, how impactful do you think it is at the end of the de with jury . Certainly. The prosecution put it on the record, but it wasnt as explicit as it could have been. I wouldnt go as far as yada, yada, yada, but they didnt ask him the question. Did you steal from donald trump . And have him sing from the Mountain Tops . Yes. And heres 60,000 in my pants right now. So we did not that now that said its never good when the jury is left with the idea that theyre Hearing Something for the first time. And its something thats so critical of a witnesses are damaging to a witnesss credibility. So its not great for them. Back to the point of when you can say yada, yada, yada about someone who has lying to his wife line to the irs Lying To Congress and a prior conviction for perjury on his record i dont know if the theft moves the needle much at all in terms of what now . In terms of the jury knows that this is a witness with credibility issues now, what has credibility issues . Whose testimony is supported by other things in the record and perhaps and quite likely hes telling the truth here i dont think that one additional revelation really has will turn the jury around in terms of what they thought of Michael Cohen. Yeah. I mean, i just wonder with this Estab Abolition Pattern of not telling the truth if it makes the jury wonder if some are sort of leaning towards a conviction. Do they really want to make that judgment based upon the testimony of Michael Cohen . I mean, if if i were on the jerry out really question to me, maybe there are some documents to substantiate some of the claims but is it enough when we know this guy really just doesnt tell you the truth it would be worth 1. Not there, but you have the checks, the ledgers, you have a writeup calculating this sum of money that he was ultimately going to receive in the handwriting of several people at the Trump Organization. That is supported by his testimony. Now how the fact that he has credibility issues doesnt change the fact that the words that came out of his mouth under oath match exactly the tie that directly to trump belly thats not the issue. I mean, i think its what the jury believes. I think prosecutors have made a case that something bad happened now, whether the jurors believed that its no, i think its an open factual question. Yeah. I mean, look, in some ways, but also just sort of underscores for like the average voter whos kind of watching, not really, probably not following the ins and outs in the same way to sort of underscore all these people around trump were liars. They werent truthful, they were there was a lot of sort of underhanded behavior going on here. And so i think if you remove yourself from the watching the case from the perspective of an attorney or a juror, which obviously significant. But if you sort of think about how its being absorbed into the political landscape. Yeah, i think it probably for the average person is sort of like oh, yeah, i got all those people around trump were awful its easy to forget as we giggle about the porn and the Forbes Magazine and what god done with it and all that business. How disgraceful this conduct is overall. Now, were getting hung up in a lot of the minutiae of whether you meet the state statute for misdemeanor versus felony, and how a Jury Instructions will look disregarding the paying off of a porn star by a former president the United States. And weve just sort of freight and this, this is where i think the Character Issue is sort of the kind of conventional wisdom is this is some subset of the conventional wisdom is this is helping trump. Hes raising money, its like underscoring his argument that the system is out to get him. And so its out to get you. But at the end of the day, theres a huge Character Element here that i think having just having this on display for trump 24 7 is not good for him in a political. But i do think there is a legitimate point to the argument that we have a Justice System that isnt always impartial and actually looked at some of the data on how various groups in the country feel about the Justice System, particularly groups of color. And you find a pattern, especially among hispanic men, africanamerican men like this system isnt always fair. The system is tainted. Oftentimes one side to the other now, where theyre not donald trump made the correlation between his experience are those groups act think he could do a better job there, but there is some concern there thats a very interesting point but before we do want to touch briefly on the iral situation and it kinda how it plays because this is the defense is only witness so far, possibly theyre only witness at all. And hes kind of acting this way. I mean, some of what he had to say judge merchan had to say costello says to the judge, can i say something, please . And the judge says, no, no. This is not a conversation, right . This is me in was what he says. There is no this is not a conversation. How much of a problem . Is the way costello is acting with the jury so its an important question to ask casey because its not a problem for the trial. Its not like everythings going to rise and fall for bob costello testimony, this is really bad in front of the jury. Jurors respect judges in a way that they often dont respect. Prosecutors, Defense Attorneys everybody it seems to revere the person when they see the robe i sought with the judge that i clerked for where people walked into the courtroom and dont like when people its almost like seeing someone speak to your mother in a way that this disrespectful and its bad for the jury. They even though the jury was sent out of the room when he was yelling at them, the jury had to know exactly what im having because they saw what had preceded it. So its just bad for the defense. It makes them look sloppy and not why is that so interesting because i you know, when i have watched, this happen and if you think about it as a communication strategy, the trump, the trump Team Strategy is to try to make this seem like as much of a persecution or a forest as possible in the oven. I roll, right, right exactly worthy of an eye roll . You can see his behavior in the context of trying to communicate about how foolish they think the whole thing is. But its so interesting your point that the jury would absorb it differently because they have a respect for the judge. You could see that you can see that Communications Strategy backfiring we begin with jury a little bit too. Yes. Exactly. The American People exactly. Are we got a lot more to get to here coming up, Rudy Giuliani facing an Arraignment Hearing today in arizona. New details about how he was finally served with papers plus stunning video of a tornado tearing apart a small town that is one of the five things you have to see this morning plus a video posted to Donald Trumps truth social page. It includes a phrase referencing a quote, unified, right . Ill show you this ahead can the riva support your brain health . No aid, janet, hey eddie know appraiser, franck. Franck bred. How are you . 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Day millions say, i use this before in the stanley cup fairclough, life is on the line right now to now to Distractions Goodness thats a serious drop still feel hi, guy welcome back, Donald Trumps truth social account on monday shared a video about how, how they seem to thank the United States will change if trump is elected president again, theres, of course nothing abnormal. Theyre necessarily political candidates talking about their visions for the country all the time. Theyre running for office. Thats the point. What is not normal is that this video referenced a quote, unquote unified reich. Reich is a german word that basically means empire, but it of course evokes the third reich used to refer to adolf hitlers nazi germany were gonna show how are you that video. Its going to sound a little strange. We edited it to freeze and zoom in on the terms so that you can easily spot it. So youll hear this video start. And then when the sound stops, shell be able to see what were talking about. Watch this what happens after donald trump whats next for america so there you go. Its pushing in on. It says there you can see the phrase, quote, Industrial Strength significantly increased driven by the creation of a unified reich. The Trump Campaign spokesman karoline leavitt, telling cnn the video was not created by the campaign and was reposted by a staffer who didnt see the word keep adding fuel thats a way to put it they say that this was posted while trump was in court yesterday. The Biden Campaign said this quote, donald trump is not playing games. He is telling america exactly what he intends to do. If he regains power, rule as a dictator over for a unified rake again, this is something that they reposted. The api says at least one of the headlines flashing appears to be text copied verbatim from a Wikipedia Entry On World War I quote, german Industrial Strength and production at significantly increased after 18, 71 driven by the creation of a unified reich but this language is, is quite specific. Yeah, well, look, the problem here is this comes in the context of other things that donald trump has said along these lines. I mean, the, this is a video of the campaign, didnt create it, Got Retweeted or whatever Donald Trumps social team calls posting it thats. All well and good. But in the context of somebody like trump who has said that there were very fine people on both sides of a rally where people were carrying Teaching Tiki Torches and chanting the jews will not replace us. This word in that context is incredibly its incredibly upsetting and its very dangerous. And so i think its less about this specific instance of using the word and more about this word in the context of these other things that donald trump has said from his own mouth, you cant argue here the campaign, you cant argue. Oh, well, someone just accidentally reposted it when donald trump is out saying it himself. And so it underscores some of the most dangerous language that hes used. And thats why its a problem. And the explanation that well, a kid on our campaign put it up and didnt read it and its barrier. Okay. Thats perfectly plausible. Then take it down exactly what you should note. It is still up as were having this conversation at 6 16 a. M. In the morning they take it down. Sure. They should just take it down. I mean, i believe that someone else posted it based on the timestamp the former president was likely in court just get rid of it i think like yesterday i did my third focus through casey. With jewish students. It was a series of three and many of them are not very excited about joe biden. And ive given my advice to Trump Campaign like, hey, you guys have an opportunity here. To reach out to younger jewish students on a whole host of issues. This certainly doesnt help and some of their experiences about antisemitism, antizionism is a real issue and some of these College Campuses and so knowing that as being fermented across the country right now, i would just take this down. This is just not the message you want to send. Well, and you also make the the point about the staffer shore, but like thats what Like Campaign accounts are for. They are four staffers. If you are speaking for the principle under their name, that is a distinction. It is, yes. Exactly. But when youre called out, take it down. I mean, this unless you are unless you are wholeheartedly embracing it. And the fact that theyre not taking it down tells you a lot about how they feel about it. They want to be able to put out a statement to the media and say, oh, well, it wasnt actually are wasnt intentional. Well, if it wasnt intentional, take it down and its very hard to believe that it wasnt intentional in the context of all of the terrible things that donald trump has said at a time when antisemitism is on the rise in this country, its dangerous, and i do take your point about you jewish opportunity, jewish students, and the opportunity there. But kait also noted that we