Also, a Programming Note because tomorrow here on the source, we will be joined by republican senator ted cruz his first interview here on the source, you wont want to miss it. Thank you so much for joining us tonight. Those in a news night with abby, phillip starts right now the headlines you might have missed about Donald Trumps second term plans lets tonight on new side good evening im abby phillip in new york tonight. The final countdown to Closing Arguments and trumps Hush Money Trial is on summations are set for next tuesday and then the judge will hand this case off to the jury. Those 12 men and women are charged with deciding whether the former president remains a free man. It is a heading decision, but no less consequential than the one that every Day Americans will face in november. Now virtually every word uttered in that courtroom, every movement by the judge, the jury, the defendant, scrutinized, dissected but outside of the courtroom, trump has given the country plenty of new evidence about what he plans to do if he captures the oval office so lets go headlined by headline lawfare trump plans to prosecutors predecessor joe biden for all of the many crimes to trump says biden is committed, but refuses to actually name saturday night massacres. Well, trump says shore. He told Time Magazine he would fire us attorneys who dont follow his orders to prosecute is opponents you consider hiring someone under federal investigation as Attorney General . Well, yes. Trump says that ken paxton is on his list of possible ags fire the fed chair, a close trump confidant says, from jail, mind you, you can bet on it spark or trade war that can take money from middleclass wallets. Thats under advisement to 1 billiondollar quid pro quo offered up to oil executives. Thats now under investigation by house democrats. A plan for sweeping immigration raids, deportations, internment camps, those are also being drawn up, monitoring and prosecuting women who have abortions its up to the states. Trump says contraceptive bands. Trump now says, never, but thats just hours after saying, well see do you support any restrictions on a persons right to contraception were looking at that and im going to have a policy on that very shortly. Things really do have a lot to do with the states withhold funds from congress. Trump says, he can do that. Deploy the National Guard to cities on a whim. Trump believes he has the power to do that too. But the same Election Deniers who tried to discard the constitution in charge of upholding the constitution. That is also part of trumps plan. The civil service, you can expect that to be gutted social media posts, Borrowing Language from nazi germany. Well, it happened during trumps first term, and its happening again now add it all up, and trump has given the American People are pretty clear picture of how he plans to govern joining me now, pollster franklins sara fischer, Senior Media Reporter at axios, jamal simmons, former Deputy Assistant to President Biden, and coleman hughes, author of the end of race politics frank you know, it used to be said that once youre in the general election phase, the candidates move to the middle. Donald trump seems to be doing quite the opposite. There was two minutes of a very impressive indictment. And im looking at this wondering, how can american support this guy. But the fact is half for the country whos made up their Minds Support Trump in the key swing states, six out of Seven Support Trump so clearly theres something that hes saying is connecting. Now the way that you presented here is really powerful and its an indictment. But to the public, they look at the border and they say chaos and they want someone to fix it they look at affordability and they say, i cant even buy my food, my fuel, my, my homes, my health care. They want someone to fix that. They look at. Can they see the chinas a threat . All the things that you point out, you did a fantastic job and some of it is in his own language except theres a lot of americans who want that to happen, want accountability, want responsibility, and they want some of the get really, really tough. Yeah. Okay. So i think that thats undoubtedly true plenty of americans, trumps supporters especially want to see all of those very things happen but this is also a trump who like last time, keeps flirting with the fringe. This whole thing about the nazi return of the reich are unified reich in this video is pretty outrageous and they keep making it sound like an accident. But how many accidents could there possibly be . I want to play what President Biden said about that as the Biden Campaign is now seizing on it you sound is official account. Wow, a unified reich. That schindlers language, thats not americas. He cares about holding on to power. I care about you all right. Vertical video for tiktok. Theres a mental work with i think what we know now is like half of americans are getting most of their News Scrolling on a, on a phone. And so the campaign is trying to communicate with those americans. The language and the culture that, that occurs donald trump is telling us what it is he wants to do. Hes telling us where his inclinations are. He certainly telling us not telling us what he wont do, right . Its not like hes saying, oh, id never do that. Thats not the reality of this is donald trump is willing to throw out all of the norms and cultural thing that we think we settled as long as it means that he gets to have power. And the american system. And thats ultimately what this is about. Because even when hes asked a question about contraception, its clear he didnt know what that guy was talking about. He didnt actually have a policy. Its just well get there. Oh, yeah. Well figure it out. At this point. You really think that donald trump doesnt know what he wants his policy to ultimately be on contraception or is he just telling the truth that its open for discussion that he would consider banning it if the states wanted to do. I think its open for discussion because there might be a group of people who are willing to vote for him who want to hear him Say Something and he doesnt quite know yet what they want him to say. So hes got to go back and figure out what the deal is. Like he did with the judges hes got to go back and figure out who he can cut the deal with and give them something and whether thatll help him get elected. Yeah. Look, i think donald trump is bad enough that we ought not exaggerate so this nazi thing, for example, this is a classic case of, i think people seizing on interpreting something in the worst possible light. So for example, the word reich in this context was pulled from wikipedia talking about the reich before hitler was born, right . It wasnt nazi, it wasnt. Im sorry. Are you are you trying to suggest that the the use of the term unified reich, which by the way, literally no one uses, no one talks about reichs unless are talking about hitler in, in modern day, you really think that that was some kind of obscure reference to the right before hitler know that this is a reporting, this is reporting, this is in the New York Times is the reporting was that they lifted from the Wikipedia Page of preworld war won germany referred to as the second reich. Hitler was the third and they just lifted some language, pasted in there, has nothing to do with nazis are the editors for this because on any normal campaign in any normal part of life when you see something that references the reich, you are thinking about hitler and nazi germany. But this is the probably has incompetent staffers. Thats surprised nobody. And i dont think he hes very much on top of his campaign this is donald trump were talking about, theres a person that accidentally tweeted cafe. So i think on attribute to malice, what can be explained by just incompetent but his office becomes the reality of his world . Yes. And hes still very effective communicator. I think what frank was saying about all the people who are listening to this message and they feel excited about some of it. Its because of the way that he knows how to deliver a message and knows how to test the message. Part of what i think to your zero point about this conflicting messaging around what he would do around contraception is hes trying to figure out whats going to resonate with the base, whats not going to resonate with the base . And a lot of the stuff that he communicates around, deploying the National Guard. These are buzzwords, right . Americans here, deploy the National Guard and that signifies a power. So part of what trump is doing is very strategic in testing the messages and also deploying the right words that he knows are going to trigger people. So i know im sure to play host, but i still dont understand that two minutes. Did you started was it was fantastic if you want to make the case against donald trump. And yet the guy is still talking, winning. Let me ask you thats been indicted 91 times. Hes in court right now. Its embarrassing. Its kind of pathetic. Well, let me ask you that. Is it because americans see and hear all of these things and they its simply do not take him seriously. They look at an unknown to say that they look at issues because it really isnt issues anymore. And i apologize every time i sit next to a journalist because they wanted to be issues, but its really attributes, character traits, who we are as people and in the end they look and they think our countrys going to hell, you know, this is the most negative. Weve ever been in terms of division, the most pessimistic weve ever been in terms of the next generation. And they think that trump is better able to address that even with all the crap that he says. And its my warning to viewers that theyre not going to Pay Attention to whether its the second reich or the third reich. The naca Pay Attention those details. They are going to think whos going to put more money in my pocket, whos going to secure the border and in the end, whos going to improve my quality of life . Can we, can we also asked and thats i mean, when you ok. Lets put aside the alleged nazi reference. When you see that, i mean, do you believe that donald trump is in fact actually planning a potential second term that is far more extreme than even his first term. And that do you believe that that should be something that voters are concerned about . Yes and no my guess is that when he talks about these insane and beyond impractical, but plans to deport 20 million people, which have an additional ethical issues, practical issues my guess is it will probably again, end up like the same plan when he said it in 2015 and 2016 and then ended up deporting fewer people than obama did on the other hand, i do worry about the retaliatory prosecutions the idea that he will be nice yeah. Yeah. I worry more than he could Vindictively Weaponize weaponize the the legal system against his opponents, against those who were disloyal to him, against the long list of enemies he is hes made in the past four and eight years. I mean, thats that seems to me the more serious possible make no mistake. Thats his number one priority. The first thing he will do when he gets to office, he has said this is brand people who have proven loyalty to him and get rid of everyone including to your point at the top, Civil Servants that he doesnt think prioritize the needs of trump over everything. Yeah. Hes good tip are one thing, september with a reframe. This isnt all about trump. Its also about joe biden. There are a lot of democrats and democratic voters who havent come home that bidens rush. Its not like trumps winning a much extra votes by just hasnt closed yet. Yeah, you see that in the polls to everyones stick around for us coming out next as the Trump Defense rests its case. 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Donald trump did not, and will not testify in his own defense at the Hush Money Trial. Thats despite weeks of saying that he would yeah. I would just have i absolutely. Its a scam. Its a scam thats not a trail. Im testifying. I tell the truth. I mean, all i can do is tell the truth. Are you more or less likely you think to take the stand in the manhattan case right now, i know well, if its necessary, probably so i would like to i mean, i think so the jury is now one step closer to decide trumps fate as the defense rests, its case, prosecutors ultimately called 20 witnesses over 15 days of testimony, while trumps lawyers called just too, including one who legal experts called a disaster on the witness stand, the jury is now expected did you here Closing Arguments next week, joining me now to discuss this former Trump White House attorney jim scholtz, also with us former federal prosecutor, gene rossi jim, both sides rested Closing Arguments next week, this is i think going to come down to how much can the prosecution simplify this case . Hes for the jury, because ultimately it can get pretty messy this is gonna be very difficult Closing Argument for the prosecution. And the reason for that is just what you articulated. Its a very complicated case. The Jury Instructions are going to be confusing, no doubt about it. They are confusing the presentation has to be succinct short. Have appropriate timeline, and also tie everything together. And, and make up for the fact that Michael Cohen isnt the greatest witness. Hes got all the baggage he has all the things that were identified. So theyre going to have to work through all those issues and kind of talk hi, this case together in a way that doesnt make it entirely hinging upon the testimony of cohen, which is tough to do. So whats your gut tell you at this stage about what the jury might ultimately do here. Tough to say youre not in a courtroom watching the jury, youre not seeing what the jury is what their reactions arent everything. But i would not be surprised in any way, shape, or form at this came back with a hung jury that someone saying absolutely no way were not going to convict him. And someones because they absolutely he should be convicted that youre going to end youre going to have i wouldnt be surprised he had that push and pull and up with mr. Trump. So you only need one person technically to hang a jury, but its also not that common i mean, do you think th