This morning my heart hurts for our community but i want to make it very clear that hate will not prevail another theyre american community shattered, fire, School Shooting. What were learning about the 14yearold Suspect who killed two classmates and two teachers in georgia, plus this billionaires and big corporations must pay their fair share in taxes Kamala Harris laying out her visision for what many voters say is their top issues. The economy just fall i days before she needs Donald Trump on the Debate Stage and Kamala Harris picks up another high profile republican ally, liz cheney. The latest to declare shes voting for the democrat in the November Election all right. 5 00 a. M. Here in washington. A live look at new York City on this thursday morning. Good morning, everyone. Im kasie hunt. Its wonderful to have you with us. We begin in georgia where another community is in mourning after a School Shooting in an all too familiar sight, students at apalachee High School in winder, georgia were sent fleeing from their classrooms wednesday second period had just started when the gunshots rang out the suspect, one of their very own classmates who surrendered when confronted by police. But it wasnt before four people were killed. Two students, Mason Shemer Horn and christian anglo, both just 14yearsold and two teachers, richard asked him Wall And Christina year me, one students spoke out about how the shooter almost entered her classroom the moment that it happened he was at the door and i knew they were looking for him already, but he was at the door and they almost let him in until they backed up. And then he turned away and thats when you hear the first rounds of Fire Police say the suspect is 14yearold colt gray, who will be charged as an adult for the murders he was questioned just last year by Law Enforcement in connection with online threats about a possible School Shooting. No charges were filed at the time as this investigation unfolds, local officials say teachers and staff at the school prevented an even larger tragedy but he rose that we need to remember is our Faculty And Staff here this school. They acted admirably. They were heroes in the actions that they took the protocols at this school we had here today. So i want to recognize them all right. Joining us now to talk more about this as dan. Oh, its hes the former Police Chief in aurora, colorado dana, good morning to you. Thank you very much for being with us. This morning. Lets start with what we are starting to learn about this suspect specifically, that we know that he was questioned last year over an online threat. No charges were filed. There. But when you learn about that what goes through your mind . In terms of how Law Enforcement handled it then and what it should have meant ahead of this awful tragedy you know kasie, in my experience, its not uncommon to have i was achieved in a couple of largest cities. Its not uncommon to have a complaint like that come your way. Once or twice a week we live in an era where everything is amplified by Social Media. And any kind of threat, any kind of unusual or aberrant Email Or Text exchange between students becomes an investigation for police to track down who are who originated it. Because its amplified among parents and students at cetera. So i dont im not surprised that there was contact with this particular Student A year earlier theres a lot of times that that happens in policing and one of the challenges is to run down that threat immediately. And i can they give any number of instances with my detectives were in a kitchen with parents and 14yearold at two in the morning because we finally figured out the origin of some kind of activity like that and thankfully, almost all the time there is, there is an explanation that is about the recklessness of teenagers that has nothing to do with actual violence so yes, he had had contact with the police a year earlier, apparently and well learn more about that, but that is not uncommon today. With Police Departments and sheriffs departments to run down threats like that. Are really difficult. Reality, dan the age of this shooter 14yearsold. I mean, so young would have been a year ago that they were running this down. So perhaps he was around 13 at that time. What does it say to you that someone at that the age . Are we seeing these School Shooters of people who do these things get younger . And why do you think that is well, we have a very open society where people have, you know, gangsters of that age have access through the, through the internet to sort of unlimited amounts of information about every element of our society, including weapons and guns. And they are exposed to in our arts and culture, a lot of violence, et cetera. And the Aura And Culture around guns and its just something we all have to deal with so whats next here in terms of the investigation, i especially as it relates to i mean, one of the things thats really come up recently is the role that parents play i or dont play when something like this happens, obviously, ethan crumbleys parents were held accountable. What questions are Law Enforcement asking and whats next . Sure. There are so many layers to this one of the first is hes apparently based on what ive read and heard going to be charged as an adult under georgia law. I dont know the nuances of that but assuming he is treated like an adult the likely defense that will be offered as some skill be some sort of insanity defense. I am sure the evidence that physical and circumstantial evidence against him will be overwhelming. So for Law Enforcement to overcome that defense, theyre going to have to prove in front of a jury that he understood the consequences of his actions, that he knew right from wrong in the Aurora Theater Shooting that was essentially the only defense that was available to the defendant. And thats exactly what the litigation became in front of a jury. In order to prove that the investigators are going to have to delve into everything about this young Persons Life his Social Media profile, everything he said or did with anyone. In the last year, two to work towards proving that and im sure the investigation is being as thorough as it can into all of those things then there are the issues of access to the weapon. We had the example several years ago in michigan where two parents were held accountable under michigan law for the Reckless Disregard that led to their 15yearold getting access to an ar style weapon. So there are those kinds of issues around culpability for the origins of the weapon, then of course, theres the issue of actual conspirator liability, whether or not anyone else actually aid he did and abetted him and committing this act. So there are layers upon layers here in the investigation. Theres an awful lot to get done and we are way, way too early to have a lot of insight right now all right. Dana, its for us this morning, dan, im very grateful for your time. Thanks very much for joining us thank you. Coming up of course, coming up next here on cnn this morning. 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That is one of the sunbelt states that is in the Swing State category, gearing up for the final sprint to election they trump was in battleground, pennsylvania for a Town Townhall with Fox News is Sean Hannity this is a woman who is dangerous. I dont think too smart lets say but she loses her Train Of Thought a lot she goes, thats why she wanted to do interviews. Can you imagine her doing an interview like this and of Course Trump and harris Face Off on the Debate Stage this coming tuesday, joining me now, national political reporter for the hill, Julia Manchester and political reporter for the 19th. Grace panetta. Welcome to both of you julia of course we heard trump there continuing his sort of personal attacks against Kamala Harris. This comes as were learning, both sides have agreed to the Debate Rules which will include muted microphones, which the Harris Team has been scrambling to try to change there at the 11th Hour the fact that hes in pennsylvania also relevant. Where do things stand here just five days before this debate . Look, five days before this debate, we know that this race particularly in pennsylvania, a must Battleground State, is very, very close. Our Hill Decision Desk Hq Average shows Harris And Trump 0. 1 apart in that state. So its really mustwin for either of the these candidates. Its interesting to hear trump in last Nights Townhall attacking harris on fracking and some of her moves on a number of Policy Issues. So itll be interesting to see if trump attacks are on that yesterday. We also saw harris and New Hampshire releasing more details from her own economic plan, which is also crucial ahead of this debate, we know that trump has positioned himself as slipped probusiness candidate. So she is very much trying to prepare for i think a number of attacks shes going to face next week now the Big Question will be, does trump in next weeks debate, focus on Policy And Harris on that . Or does he delve into these personal attacks like we just saw . Right . Well, so speaking of fracking, Grace Trump actually did address that in his Town Hall yesterday. This was how he framed that, probably a preview of what were going to see next tuesday. Watch she wants no fracking in pennsylvania. She wants she said it 100 times that you biggest business and you get a big majority of your income from fracking. And you have somebody thats not going to allow fracking. Shes not going to allow. You can tell think the chance you have no choice, youve got a vote from, youve got to home so of course, a Grace Harriss Team has said that this position that she wants held has evolved but how does this issue in particular play in pennsylvania . He also said in this Town Hall that the country will end up in a depression like 1929 if she becomes president , again, no evidence there yeah, i think what were going to see in this debate is a really clear sort of articulation from the Harris Side of what her economic policies are going to be i think this Coal Kind of fracking question illuminates both the challenges and opportunities for harris going into the debate. I think the big opportunity she has here on the economy latest polls including the Cnn Battleground Poll released on tuesday, shows that just kind of close the gap, the Big Gap that biden had with trump and how voters would trust more on the economy. And thats why we see her moving to release more for economic plans. Of course, the vulnerability is her past positions she took in the 2020 primary when running for president , which trump and his allies are going to i look to hit her on, even though the show, those involved. So julia, i mean, i guess the question is, what are we going to know specific wise specifically about harriss economic plans . This has been a line of attack from the trump team, right . That she hasnt been specific enough. We have her out there breaking with Biden On a tax related issue, the Capital Gains tax. But its clear that one of the Things Trump is going to be trying to do in this debate is lumper in with, with joe biden. And pressure her on on where they may differ. Are we going to see more of that from her . I think were potentially going to see more of that, but i think theres going to be push from Republicans Trump for her to release even more specifics. I mean, yesterday, yes, she did talk about that Capital Gains tax, but she also talks to talk about targeting small businesses and trying to invest in those in small businesses. In particular. But the issue was she didnt talk about which sectors, which small businesses in particular i heard some republicans chattering about that. So i think youre going to continue to hear shes not being specific enough. And once again, from the Trump Campaigns perspective, this is all about contrast. They are trying to put him forth as upfront as the probusiness candidate, the former Business Leader talking about that prior to the covid19 pandemic, we didnt have high inflation. We know that harris has also talked about price gouging, lowering prices, making this all about the cost of living. So thats i think what we could expect to see from her going into next week. All right. Julia manchester, grace panetta. Thank you both very much for being here this morning. I really appreciate it all right. Just five days. Come on. Harris and Donald Trump will meet in philadelphia for that debate that everyones been waiting before. 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