Tonight on 360 would just four days until the debate. The former president spends the better part of a campaign day in court or in front of the cameras lashing out at his female accusers, including the woman who took him to court and won also tonight, vice president harris, the new support she's getting from another big name republican, but also the issue that could cause oh, sorry, trouble with voters in pennsylvania. And later as the alleged georgia school shooter's father has his first day in court everything we're learning about the case and the two students and two teachers whose lives were taken good evening. Thanks for joining us. We begin tonight with the former president campaign politics, his legal troubles and lies he finished his day in charlotte, north carolina where the fraternal order of police endorsed him and he had this to say about a violent attack on nancy pelosi's husband you know that nancy pelosi is a big wall wrapped around her house. Of course, it didn't help too much with the problem she had. That that's the former president is speaking to members of law enforcement, making light and the first time i should point out of the violent attack against paul pelosi, a home invader beat mr. Pelosi with a sledgehammer and fractured his skull. The man admitted that he was planning to hold nancy pelosi hostage and quote, break her kneecaps and quote, if she did not confess to whatever he wanted to hear. Now that's what the former president was talking about to police, the near killing of a political rivals husband donald trump came close to being shot in the head and had a neardeath experience and got a second lease on life. And this is what he's doing with it. Earlier today. He was in new york and federal court appealing his sexual abuse and defamation judgment. And afterwards, he you talked about it. Take a look. His lawyers were behind him as he talked about e. Jean carroll, who jury determined he's sexually abused and defamed. He said and i quote, i never met the woman other than this picture which could have been a. I. Generated? i don't i don't know. Show up out of nowhere, but it's fine. Nice picture now keeping them honest, the photo that he was talking about, this photo is real and the president knows it's real because he discussed in detail under oath during a 2022 deposition, mistaken carroll for his wife at the time, marla maples. Now, in addition to carol, he also lashed out at several other accusers, including jessica leeds who says trump groped her on a flight 1970s. It couldn't have happened, it didn't happen and she would not have been the chosen one. She would not have been the chosen one. He said, remarks like that have earned this assessment today from former republican congresswoman liz cheney. Dick cheney will be voting for kamala harris. You know, my dad believes and he's said publicly that there's never been an individual in our country who is as grave a threat to our democracy as donald trump is i was liz cheney today, yesterday, she announced she will be voting for vice president harris today. She said that her dad, former vice president dick cheney, will be doing the same and we'll have more on that shortly. There was one other thing that donald trump said today that i want to point out because it involves me and he seemed to imply something that is unfounded. He was talking as he he has before about an interview that e. Jean carroll did with me back on june 24, 2019 then there was an anderson cooper interview where she said essentially, no, he didn't rape me she's selling a book he wrote a book. The book would have been a total failure, probably was anywhere they'll probably sell more recently. Again, does a woman that wasn't doing well? until she came out with this stuff about me and that's happened to others do by the way, that she's not the only one but the anderson cooper tape and the interesting cooper tape, it's an interview of her and cooper says something to the effect, did he rape you? did he rape you? he was so happy. Oh, did he rape you? and she gave a very good answer for me but a bad answer for cnn for anderson and he said, we're going to commercial break right now. We're going then she came back from commercial bank and she was much more hostile. But this man wouldn't let us use the tape or the proper questions having to do with the tape, would lead us to judge judge kaplan would let it be used we wanted to get the outtakes. In other words, what did anderson cooper talked to her about doing that intermission for a commercial that he called for immediately. What do you see this? i mean, some of you have seen it, some of you haven't we're going to commercial break right now and so what happened is we weren't able to use it okay. So this is not the first time that trump has seemed to suggest some nefarious plot by me to manipulate e. Jean carroll into saying something. He actually brought this up in a deposition for trial now, i normally don't respond to when trump says something about me. I mean, what is the point he recently referred to me using a female first name, which i guess is the third grade gay taunt. I think he called me allison are actually cooper. I don't really recall. It's not worth replying to, but this time it's different because it's just kind of just demonstrably false. First, i just want to show you what it is he's round i'm lying about. This was part of my interview with e. Jean carroll that took place on my show on cnn in two blocks to segments, separated by a commercial break. Now this is what you would have seen if that night you were watching at home or wherever we went to commercial and then came back from commercial. We're not going to actually play the entire commercial break. You would have been watching to take i was not thrown on the ground and ravish, which the more rape carries so many sexual connotation. This was not this was not sexual for just it hurt. It just it just, you know, i think most people think of raping as i mean, it is a violent assaulted is not i think most people say of rape as being sexy let's take a short break in the fantasies we're going to take a quick break if you can stick around, we'll talk more on the other side. Your fascinating to talk to cancer is the ugliest disease mankind has ever faced. We're now in my conversation with e jean carroll and the president's latest denial of her sexual violence allegations against him. He said, quote, she's not my type. He's also said previously he did not know her, had never met her even though they had in fact met. She's the one on the left along with her husband, a local news anchor at the time, and the president is wife at the time. Ivana. The president has also say, said flat out that she is lying so that commercial break, which we only just played a snippet of the commercial, ran four minutes long. So the former president, it seems to be suggesting that something we discussed her that i discussed with e. Jean carroll during a fourt minute long commercial break that you would have been watching at home made ms carroll changed her tone toward him? not sure her tone actually changed after the second bloc of the interview. But that's besides the point the problem with this conspiracy theory is that this interview was actually prerecorded and we had to prerecord a toss to a commercial break and then welcome viewers back after commercial break. So that the entire to parts of the interview would fit into my show that night. So when you do that, when you interview someone for however many minutes and then you toss to a break that will later be inserted into the broadcast. You don't sit there for the entire four minutes of the commercial break with the guests just waiting to then come back to the show because it's prerecorded. You don't have to sit there during commercial break. You just take a few seconds, you make sure that control room is still recording. You welcome viewers back as if you've just come out of a commercial break and you continue with the interview. And that's exactly what i do with e. Jean carroll. And i know this because we have the tape so while trump is currently suggesting, i sat through a commercial break on live tv with e. Jean carroll telling her to be angry or whatever. We actually just paused in a prerecorded interview for a few seconds. And if you don't believe me, here's the raw, unedited video of what was actually being recorded. And you will hear exactly what i said in the few seconds. It took me to resume the interview we've got to take a quick break if you can stick around and we'll talk more on the other side. Your fascinating to talk to right? we come back okay so before the break you said you don't use the word rape so that was the entire break. So when donald trump is saying was a fourminute break, i'm that i'm talking to each and carol you just saw the break and that weird look i have is how i could talk my control room. What i'm saying. Okay, we good. We coming back. Okay? i'm talking to a producer in the control room. He's talking to me in my earpiece right here, making sure that we're good on time. We're still recording and i can immediately resume the interview. That's what happened in this break in the interview that trump was once again talking about today joining us now former trump campaign adviser david urban politicos, meridith mcgraw, former democratic national committee communications director no elleithee and former federal prosecutor, jeffrey toobin. So meredith trump has been consistently criticized by people in his own party for not staying on message just today alone. He's lashed out at several of his accusers, made fun of the brutal attack. Nancy pelosi's husband. And went after vice president harris during remarks in north carolina, which i just want to play right now. Kamala harris destroyed san francisco she destroyed california. Now she's destroying america. She will destroy this country. She will destroy this country and now that people are seeing what's going and nobody knew who the hell she was. In all fairness, she was vice president that nobody knew. She shouldn't have been vice president. And if they call threat to democracy is a threat to democracy the way they call me threat. I'd take a bullet in the head and i'm a threat. No, no. She's at threat to democracy so what do you think he's trying to accomplish here? well, again and again, we hear from trump's advisors, from allies who say that trump needs to be sticking to the message, needs to be talking more about policy. And they have events where he's clearly set up to do just that, whether it's talking about inflation or whether it's talking to the police about crime. And yet he goes off on these tangents. And today, we clearly saw donald trump agitated when he called this press conference to talk about the appeals case. And donald trump is down in the polls with women and going on national television to talk about these accusations that have made, been made by women against it's tam of sexual assault or harassment at a time when he is down in the polls. I just don't see how that is politically helpful to him. Just a day after the assassination attempt against him, trump posted on truth, social saying it is more important than ever that we stand united and show our true characters americans a reminder that trump suggested the comments calling him a threat to democracy is what led to the assassination attempt. Yet here he is today calling harris a threat to democracy i mean do you think is this planned out? do you think this is just all off the cuff far be it for me to try to crawl inside donald trump's head and make sense of some of the things he says and does but he stood up there today at a press conference pardon me? a press conference usually means he's going to take questions. He didn't take any questions. So we stood up there today at this event, which was essentially a nearly hour long festivus greed airing of grievances just as voters are getting ready to cast. The first ballots of this election early voting, mailin ballots and what they heard from the former president today was him talking about whether or not he litigating the definition of rape versus assault you heard him today talk about whether certain women were hot enough for him to assault this at this point in the campaign, a campaign is supposed to either persuade voters or mobilize your base. I don't see how what he did today helped with either case and just made that small sliver of undecided voters out there. Remember why they were so uncomfortable with him? yeah. I just want to play what he actually said about jessica leeds not being the chosen one frankly, i know you're going to say it's a terrible thing to say, but it couldn't have happened. It didn't happen and she would not have been the chosen one. She would not have been the chosen one. So david, i know, you and i've talked about this before. You are often telling the former president to focus on policy and record and stuff was today a good day? well, listen, andrew the president's best, what he's talking about is accomplishments, he's best talking about the record of the, you know, his past four years in office and he's worse what he's talking about, personal grievances today, he was very upset we saw that standing in trump tower during the press conference he was venting, leaving off steam and it's not helpful like most said, at this point in the campaign, you want to be reminding folks why to vote for you write all the good things that the trump administration and accomplished and contrast those with the four years of the bidenharris administration. If donald trump keeps if he talks about those things and focuses on those things the abc poll just showed that was out recently, it was longitudinal prior to the dnc and after the dnc convention that donald trump leads in polls by about ten points, about ten points nationwide on the economy, on immigration, on inflation, on crime, on the things that people care about. He needs to remind people are mine voters. Early voters, late voters. All voters that he's the person that can deliver on the things that are most important to them. And if he's not doing that, then he's not winning. Jeff. Let's talk about what happened in the hush money case today. That russia and delayed the sentencing until after the election. The judge wrote the imposition of sentence will be adjourned to avoid any parents whoever unwarranted that the proceeding has been affected by or seeks to affect the approach in presidential election which the defendant is a candidate is this significant in terms of the case itself? well, i think it is a little significant in the sense that you know, he he is not yet sentence in this case isn't over plus marshawn still has to decide how the supreme court's decision in the immunity case that they decided at the end of the last trial affects this case. And there is still the possibility that he might throw out the verdict in the hush money case an order, a new trial, because evidence was admitted. That was on proper under the new standard. But anderson, i just think it is worth pausing to wreck big night, how donald trump has successfully neutralize all four criminal cases against him. This case will not be sentenced in well after the trial the florida case has been thrown out entirely, though that's on appeal. The georgia case is a walltowall disaster for the prosecution, and he just showed there's no sign of going to trial. The january 6 case is now bogged down in in pretrial proceedings that may not lead to a trial even in 2025 so donald trump had a very