Known as twitter. You can instagram me at wolf blitzer in the situation room, by the way, is also available as a podcast. Because wherever you get your podcast, erin burnett outfront starts right harris rails against trump's hate and division as the former president doubles down on a false claim the haitian immigrants are eating pets, running a conspiracy theorist who's racist tweets about harris or so offensive that marjorie taylor greene is up in arms plus springfield, ohio town that trump won't stop spreading rumors about is under siege tonight. Bomb threats i have happened, schools been shut down now for the second day, mayor of springfield will be outfront and the country trump is obsessed with blaming el salvador is to blame for the border crisis. And criminals coming into the u. S. So cnn went there and what we found, what we'll share it with you. Let's go outfront good evening. I'm erin burnett and outfront tonight, the breaking news hate, and division that is a quote from the vice president kamala harris, who is taking on trump and his rhetoric in her first interview since the debate, harris saying, quote, i think people are more willing now in light of the hate and division that we see coming out of donald trump to say, hey, let's put country first. And i think that just makes us stronger and more healthy as a country. Let's stop with the division like enough of that. While this new interview coming as trump speaks out about controversial rightwing conspiracy theorist laura loomer now, loomer has been by his side quite constantly recently, including traveling to the debate with him and just before the debate, loomer says said that if harris wins the election, quote, the white house will smell like curry and white house speeches will be facilitated via a call center well, now, trump is saying just just coming out and making a comment, writing laura loomer doesn't work with the campaign. She's a private citizen and a longtime supporter. Kind of sounds like he's trying to distance himself, but actually know he's trying to have it both ways because he continues to write i disagree with the statements she made, but like the many millions of people who support me, she is tired of watching the radical left marxists and fascists violently attack and smear me disagrees. But while loomer of course was with trump before the debate, where the foreign president again brought up that migrants are eating pets in springfield build ohio. That is a baseless claim that trump is still tripling down on springfield, ohio, the police chief, the republican governor of ohio of all debunk this story about people eating pets. Another aplomb threatened schools kids being evacuated. Why do you still spreading? no, no, no store. The real threat is what's happening at our border because you have thousands of people being killed by illegal migrants coming in all right, i'm going to speak to the mayor of springfield in a few moments, which is now dealing with bomb threats, school has had to be canceled for two days because of the story about eating pets. Meanwhile, vice president harris today taking the fight to trump in the mustwin state of pennsylvania let us be clear someone who suggest we should terminate the constitution of the united states of america should never again stand behind the seal of the president of the united states wrapping up a rally in wilkesbarre, pennsylvania and that location is important to note, is a county that trump won in 2020. Priscilla alvarez is outfront. She's in wilkesbarre and priscilla, you've been learning more about harris, a strategy moving forward and she has been spending what, six of the past seven days in pennsylvania and i know from where what you were seeing today, you got a taste of the strategy. We're going to see in these future. For days exactly right, erin sources have been telling me that the vice president is expected to up her travel to these more rural and read counties in an attempt to peel off voters from former president donald trump. And today is a glimpse of that. The vice president going to two counties that donald donald trump won in 20, and won by doubledigits that we saw something similar. If you go in the vice president also due to swing through south georgia again seeing those rural red counties now, campaign official telling me that they're trying to up her support in these areas and that all of it is a reflection of how close they see he, this race that it, even if they can peel off a few voters in each of these counties, that, that can really help them come november. Now, of course the campaign has been looking for multiple pathways to those 270 electoral votes, but each time, pennsylvania is critical to that. And we know that from the vice president's travel, as you mentioned, over the last several days with a majority of her time has been spent in this state. Now, while she was here in her remarks, she specifically focused on job opportunities and yeah, pretty next is adviser told me that was intentional. The idea of trying to appeal to some of those voters who perhaps are not diehard democrats, but are also uninjured trusted aide, former president donald trump and trying to make an argument here on the economy. I will also note that it was a republican who introduced the vice president and that has been part of the campaign 20 narrative as well, that she is trying to appeal to republicans, independents, and democrats. So clearly trying to make a play here in this county that voted for former president donald trump now of course, the campaign knows that they need to look at multiple strategies to try to clinch a victory in november. That also includes trying to forego some of the traditional media so big remarks and speeches about policy rollout and also try to find other opportunities to continue the energy of this campaign. Erin, i, priscilla, thank you very much in wilkesbarre tonight and everyone here with me now. So david urban here, the context of what you see trump doing you know, he's he's triple down on conspiracy theories about springfield, ohio, and migrants there obviously also talking about the border. A harris has been focusing on saying, well, this is hate and division that's what it's about. Is he helping her make her case? we do think this is hurting him right now or not. Well, look, i'd like to see the president focused more of his time on the issues that people are telling everybody that they care about the economy homeownership things that keep pulling very high and not focused on, things like you know, missing, missing geese and stray dogs. I think, you know, it's kind of laughable. Kamala harris is talking about division. But at the same rally, she's up there talking about it's basically lying. Not it's spreading disinformation about president trump's project 2025. He's going to take your abortions, right? to an abortion away all things which president trump, erin, as you know, has disavowed, has said on the record numerous times, i won't i won't send won't sign an abortion ban project 2025. I disavowed it's everywhere they're good people on both sides. She continues to say the same old lies over and over again. And nobody is checking her and the thing that she's not talking about aaron in these counties that she goes too, which is which i applaud her for go into go into louisiana lackawanna county and wilkesbarre there and didn't go into cambria county. John sound today because she needs people need to see or they need to hear from her. And once they do here for mercy is going to lose by even worse because she gave an interview today to or maybe it was yesterday to an abc affiliate in philly when asked what she's gonna do for the economy, he talked about growing up as a kid, shouldn't answer the question. She hasn't answered anybody's questions ashley, starting answer your questions. I agree. I agree with jim clyber. Get up there and answer questions, talk to people. Ashley. I mean, speaking of not answering questions, i don't think david actually answered your question, which is you know that's i said, trump shouldn't do it. Do what, what's the he should not be doing, stoking the flames. Talking about worsen cats and dogs cats a dog. It's actually the effect of what he's saying. See mean the reality is that trump's words are incredibly powerful. We've seen this before when he came down that escalator and he called mexicans rapists, then he became the president and he signaled to white nationalist. He, you know, racial tension was at an all time high in people across america were feeling threatened by what the president was saying or lives were feeling threatened by what the president saying. And that's what we're seeing right now. And i think the sad thing is it's a silence of republicans they're not rebuking with the president saying they're not disavowing with the presence saying and the effect of his words. That's what's sad about this. And i think that's what the vice president was talking about today is the question that's before us now is do we want to live in that donald trump america? do we want to go back to a time where we were your neighbors, your family? your friends were feeling very threatened their lives, feeling threatened by literally and figuratively by the president's words. Abby one i just wanted, i just want to ask you something about the springfield issue first, though, abby, this is when he does go beyond the pets he tries to make the point that springfield has been overrun and springfield has had an incredible influx or a third of the increase in population because of immigrants. And he's trying to hone in on this issue. So this is what he said today at that press conference. In springfield, ohio, 20,000 illegal haitian migrants have descended upon a town of 58,000 people, destroying their way of life. They've destroyed the play, so people don't like to talk about it because even the town doesn't like to talk about it because it sounds so bad for the town does that resonate? i think it resonates with some people at the problem is, first of all, what he's saying is also not true. The idea that they're all in his words illegal it's not true. I mean, there's here on a temporary protective status which is a legal status because they are fleeing unrest in haiti. But secondarily, i mean, trump talks about these things in very oblique ways. They are destroying their way of life. There are real challenges that this town is facing. The republican gov of, of the state of ohio has said, you know what, this is a real issue. Here's what we're gonna do we're going to bring support to this town, but trump rather than dealing with it in a real way, is trying to stoke this idea that they're changing how you live your life. They are not like you. They never will be thank you and that is at the core of his i don't even like to call it really an immigration message. This is a nativist message that's how he sees the immigration issue. If it were just about who's here legally and illegally, he'd be talking about visa overstays from all over the world, which is not just from people in the southern part of this hemisphere, but that's not what this is about for trump, and that does work for a lot of people who are very susceptible to arguments that other people are coming in taking things that belong to them, changing their way of life so david, do you think they move beyond this, but this is actually lasted several longer than most things do in the news cycle. David, this issue of springfield, and it's not going away. Does that do you think that that edge has some sort of staying power? i'm not quite sure why the former president continues to fixate on and listen if you want to talk about real problems, talk about laken riley to ask mayor eric adams, use his own words. Who is of course, i would atlanta? yeah. I mean, there are real problems that come about because of, individual case he says that you want to, you want to highlight and talk about problems you can use those cases. Mayor eric adams has said it's tear new york city apart. They can't do it. Cities are busting at the seams by taking in all these illegal immigrants that it's tearing communities apart, big communities, big cities, small cities. So the president could do so without focusing on springfield. I think he this point is probably move on ashley, do you think at this point, you know, we had a fivepoint lead for harris in the reuters ipsos poll that came out last night. And you go through a whole lot of polling, some of which we use on cnn, some of which we don't, but very easy to build a case and polling right now that maybe there's she's within the margin of error, but but she's up not everywhere, but in a lot out of places enough to win it easily. Do you think that that's the way this really is right now, or do you think that she truly is the underdog is xi again and again, describe yourself as well. I mean, i think you know donald trump typically overperforms in an election, then he does in the polls. So there's always some secrets. Trump voter that's out there, that's being not being completely upfront and act when it comes to the polling. But i think the most important thing is if we get back to abby's point like it is working, but it's not working with that one too. Two 2% of the population that he needs to actually help win this election. That's why he's hit a ceiling in the polls. That's why he's stubbornly at 48%. It does work with some americans, but definitely not those that he needs to bring to the table. He continues to isolate them with this type of rhetoric. And there's a way in which we can talk about solutions without demon nice seeing people without alienating people without undermining the very fabric of our nation. And that's what the president continues to do. It continues to go down this path of division rather than uniting the party and that's partly why that's partly why kamala harris is really hitting momentum 500 million. She's already raised that signifies that the hunter does not want a third season of donald trump there over this kind of rhetoric to our point, everybody's ready to turn the page, except for that 48%. Well, that's a problem while in and it's a big, it's a big number two, it does show that margin of error she's aware of the abby, obviously, the outcome of this race, everything is at stake for trump right? if you lose loses, he could be going to jail yeah. I mean, in various people may feel that for their own reasons, but today you had a chance and incredible interview that you had to sit down with the supreme court, justice ketanji brown jackson, and she spoke to you about that incredibly important and controversial immunity ruling that could mean everything for trump. And i just wanted to play part of your conversation with her dissenting opinions. This is on the presidential immunity case, a major decision by the court. You characterize the majority's opinion as a five alarm fire that is pretty dire language why did you specifically use those words well, my dissent in that opinion was dissent, just justice sotomayor wrote the primary dissent, with which i fully agreed and i wrote that in my opinion i wanted to highlight some of the consequences that i foresaw as a result of this particular decision this was a significant case. I think everyone everybody recognized that and i thought it was important to make clear to the american people, at least my view of what the potential consequences were what stood out the most to you about what she said? well, look, i mean, the use of that language, five alarm fire, obviously it's nothing in these opinions are accidental or put in there flippantly this is her version of underscoring underlining how dire she thinks the consequences are of this decision to create a form of immunity for presidents that was as broad as what the majority did. And that concern what went beyond even what