Glal public square. Welcome to all of you in the United Stes and Around The World. Im Fareed Zakaria coming to you from Nework Today on the Progra Theontrast between coulnot be more stark d e differt. Hillary clinton, the foerirst lady, former senator former secretary of ste, who of course, ran for thameric presidency. Against donaldru i20. Steve East Ch mor the United Nations this week, busecrety general Antoo Guterres asked Him Abohe will be a Year O in two ich eks. T war iukraine, Which Ll mark three years in rly 2025and whthuned nations dont seem to have peace but first, heres my Ut Ta in the clamor of the campaign season. Were missing what should states has managed to bring Ed Inatn down without so far triggering a recession such a soft landings a rare achievement that by one measure has only happened one other time in the last 60 years. A good measure of credit should and the manner in which i operates. 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Omicrosoft on nvidia but this Image Res on Poli On American Monery and regulatory policy that in crucial wa is still being handd in a serious, nonpartin, meritocratic manner. If this last area of politicized, It Uld weaken power, the edifice on which all else rests go tonn. Com fareed foa linko my cumn th week. Anlets get arted. My Ne Guest is one of the american politic Hillary Rodham clintonas of course then us nator from neworkas and then served under President Barak Oba as Secretary Of State in 2016, she made history as the Fst Wom nomated by a major pay to run for president. Ore recently, Shes Addeunersity Professoand Broadway Producer to her lt of accomplishments these experiences among many others, are explored in henew book, something lost, something gained. Secretary lce back. Ank you so much. S Great be back with u. This is su a terfic bo. Fascinating and wide ranging and personal iant to start by asking you about, you talked a t in T Book about wh it meant to be a woman in pits and Yo Path to It D be oked ts up, but when you ean, i went to welleslei believed colles were not coed. When you went to Yale Law school, lose basically the first year that they had opened It Up, Woman D so in someay you became a pitical spouse and gained prominence that way, fferently. A pbay it those Dos Doou Think She S Beerhance at that kindf in order to make it possible for somebody to come after them. And as ai write in the book and in the epilogue to the audio Oh Version that i read, i didnt know how i would feel because obviously it was a huge disappointment not to win in 2016. But when President Biden withdrew and endorsed the Vice President , i immediately along with my husband, endorsed her as well. And it felt right it felt exciting, exhilarating. I think she is not only absolutely equipped and ready to be president. I think we need somebody like her right now for read and watsons this is an election not just between two people, two tickets, two parties it really isnt election between democracy and autocracy, freedom and oppression, but also between leadership that wants to bring us together to do big things, to demonstrate america is fully ready to be as prosperous and as focused at home and leading a abroad because the world needs that and so the contrast between the two visions of our future could not be more stark and different i think Kamalas Campaign has demonstrated as its already been written and talked about, a level of energy even joy the contrast is the trump campaign. Its dark, its dystopian. Its filled with attacks on different kinds of People Fingerpointing and scapegoating thats a very different view of who we are as a people and what we should aspire to. Why do you think he gets almost half the country behind them and particularly the Working Class. You talk about this in the book, how the Working Class gravitated toward the republican party after the 1970s and 80s, right . Well, i write about and obviously ive talked and thought a lot about this. I think there are a number of reasons i think that people have high expectations for their own lives and for the leaders that they invest themselves in and if you are disappointed or feel like youre falling short or worried that your children will not do better than you did . Its natural to be somewhat unmoored and leaders can appeal to you. And one of two ways. And ive seen both. Ive seen leaders who say, yeah, you know what, we have problems . I want you to be involved in helping to fix them. I want you. I want to create the tools you need to chart a better life for yourself and your family. Where you have leaders saying you know what . Its rigged against, you you deserve better youve lost that job to name the Minority Groups or immigrant or minority of whatever that is getting an unfair advantage so im giving you an explanation for why you feel stuck or disappointed you know, Historically America has fallen in the first category. Its like, Okay Go West if youre not happy where you are have mobility to go find a job. I was saying to you before we started my Father Hop Day Freight Train in scranton, pennsylvania because he heard there might be a job in chicago during the Great Depression russian you know, there was an energy and an optimism that has really marked who we are but the combination of demagogic leaders like trump who appeal to the fears, not the hopes, the fears and Social Media, which can spread all sorts of conspiracy theories, Alternative Explanations alternative facts about why things arent going as wel you would like them to go or what can be the explanation for that. So i think theres a social political, cultural, and technological set of reasons that add up to the political differences. Youre talking about how important it was feuded to take on womens issues and by womens issues, i mean, helping women with their Health Care, with their child care. And you were frustrated throughout your career that these were seen as womens issues and not societys issues. And yet they had a huge impact on society atlarge, right . Yeah, well their economic issues to your right. Theres their society issues. Economic issues and a lot of these issues like childcare, paid Family Leave then dismissed for way too long as kind of side issues, womens issues but the evidence is overwhelming that we are making it so difficult for families to balance their Work Life and their Family Responsibilities and if you are concerned about the falling birth rate, if you concerned about increasing productivity, if you are concerned about how we need to be supporting the most important job in society, which is raising children. Then you should be in favor of things like paid Family Leave and early Childhood Education next on gps, Hillary Clinton has been teaching a Columbia University after the break. I asked her about Campus Turmoil around the israel hamas War Carb winning is everythings stupid. Saturday, October 5th on cnn. Our biggest Challenge Uncertainty hidden fees surcharges, who knows what to expect, turned shipping to your advantage . Keep it simple with clear upfront pricing. 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Com if you or a Loved One have mesothelial, will send you a free book to answer questions you may have call now and well come to you 800 a31, 3,700 and we are back with the former first lady, former Secretary Of State, former saturday Hillary Rodham clinton. Mrs. Clinton, along with president clinton and chelsea will welcome World Leaders to the clinton global Initiative Conference here in new york. This coming week things in the megamedia very complicated, but the Middle East very complicated and you, youve watched it in a sense, it participated in a way because youve been teaching this course of columbia and i think there was, there has been some Student Reaction describe what you whats your sense of whats going on on campuses with the Middle East right now . Well, actually i have a whole chapter about that in the book because it was quite striking to me i coteach a course with the Dean A Very Distinguished Political Scientist at the School Of International And Public Affairs called inside the Situation Room wed love to have you come some class fareed incredible students, very large lecture kept class like 375 students from across the university, mostly students from seat, but the school we teach it and we taught the wednesday after October 7 and it was it was a very somber difficult class. We hurried through, are prepared curriculum, and then we basically sat down and answered questions for 45 to 50 minutes. And the questions were really raw. I mean we had a student from palestine a palestinian student. We had a student from israel. We had students from across the Middle East. We had students from asia. And obviously the rest of the world struggling to understand what all of it meant. But it was a respectful informative open dialog and literally at The End of it, the students applauded. That was on wednesday by within. A few days, we were doing an event protested the dean and i and our guests and being screamed at being called, you know, all kinds of names what happened in that period. And the best i can sort of unpack it is it there there were already existing groups within our country and particularly on certain campuses like Columbia Cool had talking points. For protests and disruption. And i watched it sort of morph into something that was not student led, even though students participated but which had outside funding, outside direction and i still to this day, im not quite sure all that was going on with it. And a lot of students were caught up in that. And a lot of the videos on Social Media gave not just a onesided view of the conflict, but a totally anti0israel pro hamas, not just pro palestinian view and for me, it was distressing because look i have my own opinions formed over many years. Im willing to sIt Down and have a conversation with anybody but its difficult to have conversations with people who hold strong opinions with no factual and historical basis. And so in trying to talk to students, not just at columbia but elsewhere i would be met with slogans. I would be met with inflammatory language. And when i would ask, but what about, you know, what happened in 2000 at Camp David . No do you know what happened in 1947 . No do know how difficult called the relationships have been. Know. Do you know that there are aerobe i