Nice Face The Nation has your back tackling Helene President biden deploys active duty troops to help as the Hurricanes Death Toll rises 6 00 a. M. On the east coast. A live look at Capitol Hill on this thursday morning. Good morning, everyone. Im kasie hunt. Its wonderful to have you with us were now getting our first look at Neverbeforeseen Evidence filed by special Prosecutor Jack Smith in the 2020 Election Interference Case against Donald Trump. This includes the personal nuts of then Vice President Mike Pence, who wrote five pages detailing an Oval Office Meeting Where Trump was pressuring pence to take action just two days before January 6, those notes alleged that trump told pence things like, quote, when theres fraud, the rules get Changed And Quote quote, you can be bold and quote, and that pence had quote the right to do whatever you want to do and quote but the Vice President rejected those plans and two days later oversaw the Joint Session Of Congress to certify the election for Joe Biden, telling trump that his plans in a Phone Call that morning while pence was on Capitol Hill to do this, trump was at the ellipse outside the White House launching what the Special Counsel calls, quote, an indirect threat and quote, against his Vice President. During a speech to his supporters my pence, i hope youre going to stand up for the good of our constitution and for the good of our country. And if youre not, im going to be very disappointed in you. I will tell you right now im not hearing good stories after trumps speech ended chaos took over Capitol Hill as trump supporters stormed the building. In what the Special Counsel called one last effort to delay the Vote Certification back at the White House, the Special Counsel says trump watched everything unfold in the Oval Office Dining room. And while there by himself, sent a tweet, which helps to fuel the riots. It was read in almost real time by a rioter with a Bullhorn Watch asked to previously certify. You ask demand one minute after that tweet was sent. Mike pence, see him there was evacuated to a secure location when told that his Vice President was in danger when he was sitting in the Oval Office Dining room, trump allegedly said back, quote so what our panel is here to talk about all the latest zolan kannoyoungs, cnn political analyst, white House Reporter for the New York Times, zach cohen, cnn national Security And Justice reporter. Karen finney, cnn political analysts, former spokesperson for Hillary Clintons campaign, and mike dubke, former Communications Director for the trump administration. Welcome to all of you zach, i want to start with you just on reporting. This is 165 page indictment. We knew some of the broad strokes of this going in because of what we learned from the January 6 committee, this We Asli was the Special Counsel trying to distinguish here between private and official acts as a Supreme Court demanded, what would you pull out for us as things that are going to be critical going forward . Yeah, its really remarkable how Jack Smith tries to make the case that trump was acting as an office seeker, not an office holder, and basically says that the core and fundamental party so this original indictment still amount to crimes and that includes the fake elector plot, which he says in this new Charging Document that trump was personally briefed on and warned about that it was outrageous and that it was crazy by people around him and still move forward with it anyway, and of course, trumps interactions with people like Mike Pence, right . Thats still a question as to whether or not that is covered by the Supreme Courts immunity ruling. Jack smith makes the case that they were acting as Running Mates, not as president and Vice President. Thats always tried to get around the Supreme Courts immunity ruling. And i think weve all kind of come to understand at this point how theres no love lost between trump and Mike Pence, but theres new evidence does really cast sort of trump is deceased the passionate in his reaction when hes told that Mike Pence is being evacuated from the u. S. Capitol and also his interactions with his Family Members allegedly telling his Family Members that it doesnt matter if he wins or loses the election because he fight like hell if exactly, exactly. And that sort of encapsulates the whole tone of this Charging Document. Yeah. Zolan kanno youngs, lets talk big picture here for a second because obviously this is coming down under 35 days to the election you have this morning, were learning that Liz Cheney is going to be out on the Campaign Trail with Kamala Harris in wisconsin of the birthdays the Republican Party, she obviously is someone who staked her entire for political life on what unfolded on January 6 what impact does this have on the campaign here at this late hour . Obviously trumps people are saying, and im sure mike will want to weigh in on this, that the Justice Department Shouldnt have done this. But im curious how you think about this. As you cover the Campaign Day in and day out. Sure its look, the Harris Campaign and the Biden Campaign before it, when they would talk about democracy as a theme in this election, they would often point to January 6. They would point to also the allies of the former president who were trying to revise the history and the record of what happened on January 6. And you add democrats really trying to remind voters of that day and what the former president did not do. The amount of time that he spent in the White House seeing that riot unfold and his statements leading up to that riot that encouraged his supporters to storm the Capital Something like this. Thats not just sort of a politician attacking another politician, but, but, but our findings and a legal document that are going to continue to be talked about are only going to fuel some of the criticism against the former president. Just to your point as well, when you talk about some of the descriptions in here, particularly about the former president and what its described in terms of his reaction to hearing that his then Vice President was in danger, that the Secret Service had was had to rush him off because some of the rioters outside were threatening him the president the former president s reaction is described as saying so what something like that is only going to be talked about in these limited weeks, we have the remainder of the a legend i remember at cost, right after a Vp Debate where one of the real sort of memorable moments was Tim Walz also pressing vance and asking him whether the former president had lost the election and he had a nonanswer. Well, kasie, the Justice Department Shouldnt have done this. Youre absolutely right i say that myself. I said they i know. Im repeating what you thought i would say but heres why. And im coming at this at a little different tack. I think the optics of this are bad but i think theyre bad for democracy, yes, we can talk about how theyre bad for Donald Trump. But a lot of this is already baked in with trump supporters. But what is, what this can turn into especially with trump supporters, is then looking and going, okay, The Fix is heres the, heres the Bidenharris Administration. One more time. They took they delayed delayed, delayed bringing the case. And now were at the final Edge And Weve got a onesided legal document with putting color on incidents. We already knew happened. And its one more thumb on the scale by the Bidenharris Administration. Thats whats bad about this this release in part, its been delayed because of all the efforts on the part of the trump legal team to delay that case is starting heard of the delay. Thats fine. But part of why were hearing the now frustrated with merrick earlier is part of why were here now versus earlier this year is related to part of their legal strategy. Look, i think what it does do, there are plenty of people who havent been following the details as closely. I think the way i look at it in terms of the debate, it was a very powerful moment. Youre right its a reminder why Mike Pence was not The One on that stage. Thats what its a reminder of. Its a reminder the danger perfect segue being the Running Mate to this present, there was a time thats true when he said its not how you win or lose. Its how you play that game, not youve fight, fight, fight as in the fight to the death, even if youve lost. So i do think for voters who are looking for a reason, not to vote for trump this could be a Final Push to say, okay, no, i cant do this again, zach very briefly. Thats really go ahead and really werent point out the decision to release this was made by the judge in this case. Judge chutkan, not the Justice Department, just playing more cases were she coined in mind, trump is directing his anger toward the Justice Department are we going to see more before the election . Its very possible there could be more evidenced on that comes out of this next couple of days. So what to wait and see alright. Zach cohen. Thank you very much for being with us this morning. I really appreciate your reporting. Rest of panel is coming back with very shortly straight ahead here On Cnn this morning, President Biden will not step in to stop the Dock Workers strike. Thats just what i grow concerned. Current about the Port Stoppages impact on the supply chain, plus explosions rocked beirut as israel weighs a response to iran, former trump national Security Adviser John Bolton joins but since we discussed how the White House should address the counter attacks and after Debate Night, the Running Mates return to the trail and the Midmeta Western nice is suddenly not so nice. 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To name just a few. And this has been prompting some people to return to covid Era Panic Shopping amid fears of shortages. If it continues the strike could cause Price Hikes in that critical last month before the november election, President Biden warning about the strikes impact on Hurricane Relief efforts incredibly consequential the last thing wed on top of that is a manmade disaster was going on at the port were getting pushback already. Were hearing from the folks regionally, having trouble getting product me because of the Port Strike all right. Joining our panel now, annie linskey, reporter for the Wall Street Journal, is The One karen and mike are also still hear any let me start with you on this the president democrats, Kamala Harris in a tough spot with this Strike Unfolding because they really rely on need, labor, support but at the same time, an economic downturn, 32 is going to get hung around their necks oh, absolutely. I mean, this Union Leader is picking a very good time to do this. He has the maximum amount of leverage here. One of the things i think is most interesting is that he has support not only on the democratic side, but also the republican side, even though Donald Trump has said supportive things as well and is already maneuvering to do exactly what you said and hang this around. Kamala harris and and Joe Bidens snack for lack of a better way of saying it so yeah, i mean, they have the power at the moment, but i have to say i cannot fathom that theyre going to have this power for a lot longer. I do not think that Joe Biden can allow this strike to actually start me economy. I think theyve got a few days, a few more days perhaps, but the president , ultimately, i think zolan, what are the options for the products . I mean, there are squeezed, here, right . The president could pursue action known as tafthartley, which would basically say that the longshoremen need to go back to work for whats known as an 80 day cooling off period. That doesnt sort of provide a solution and to this labor dispute, you still theoretically after that 80 day period, would have to have these guys during that election. Its not 80 days away, 100 election is 33 days away time he is squeezed, right . I mean, this takes to really competing pressures the president said that he will not pursue tafthartley and when i talked to White House officials and democrats, one thing thats on the mind of them as also the crucial Labor Support unions in three crucial battleground states, wisconsin, pennsylvania, michigan. You cant alienate those folks, which you would probably do by pursuing intervention like that. At the same time, if this goes on for a couple of weeks, you may have also returned to what has been a political vulnerability for this White House. Now for recent years that being inflation and rising prices, think given what were seeing in florida, in North Carolina, and parts of georgia. And this, the devastation and the dire needs in those communities that might provide find a way to say, look guys, we have got to make sure that these communities have the basics to be able to clean themselves up and start to rebuild dr. To happen, not going to happen. I could finish my head please. 2006, 11 days. It took George Bush to invoke tafthartley i cannot imagine that biden would Bidenharris Administration would do it before them you know, no, please do. Hes. Got more do you know im asked me if you just im just suggesting possibly im just suggesting that were in a unique moment given the devastation that weve seen, i do think it puts a different kind of pressure on the situation. That did not exist before the storm hit. Well, its certainly something perhaps that the president might argue if he were to do something like this over th