Donald trump's racist rant. But we got a lot of bad genes or not john to write down, paints, immigrants as genetically inferior, many of them murdered far more than one person and predisposed to commit murder. Also another monster storm on the way. As trump's hurricane of lies sweep up republican voters. And a storm state governor won't take the vice president's call. And a solemn milestone creates a campaign trail. Conundra. As harris fends off questions about israel's relations chip with the united states live at the table. Michael eric dyson, scott jennings jay michaelson, madison, jesse auto, and al franken with 28 days to go. Americans with different perspectives aren't talking to each other but here they do in new york. Let's get straight to what america is talking about. Two very different answers on one american crisis tonight we watched some course correction. You'll remember when you'd be hardpressed to find an interview or maybe a media parents with kamala harris? well, that has all now changed the democratic nominee. She is trying to make sure that you can't miss her, whether it's on tv, on your radio, in your podcast feed while tonight, stop, it was an extended sit down with 60 minutes where she said a mistake to loosen the immigration policies as much as you dig it's a longstanding problem. And solutions are at hand. And from day one literally we have been offering solutions. But what i was asking was, was it a mistake to kind of allow that flood to happen in the first place. I think the policies that we have been proposing are about fixing a problem, not promoting a problem. Okay. But by members did quadruple the numbers today because of what we have done we have cut the flow of illegal immigration by half. Should we have done tunnel by half? but we need congress to be able to act to actually fix the problem. Also tonight, the country is grappling with the language of hate. Donald trump using the broadest possible brush to otherize migrants and signal to his supporters that the people coming into the united states are inferior. Just listened to what he had to say how about allowing people to come through an open border a 13,000 of which were murderers, many of them murdered far more than one person. And they're now happily living in the united states, you know, now a murderer. I believe this it's a new jeans. And we got a lot of bad genes in our country right now here at the table you know, it's a sort of moment of contrast between these two and the thing that you wonder in addition to why trump seems really obsessed with this idea of the genetic composition of immigrants is why can't he just talk about the issues as opposed to going there? i mean, you heard it he's obsessed with the genetic composition of the murderers and the violent people who were in the country. We do have 13,000 murders here. We have even more people here who've committed sexual crimes, violent sexual position of murders here in the united states who are american citizens i mean, not just what should we do about that. I think i think it's perfectly fine to acknowledge that there is a long been body of research that there are some people who are genetically predisposed to violence. But today, today, there has been an effort to make it seem like donald trump is saying something about immigrants when all he is commenting on or the violent murderers who are in the country it's simply not true what's being said about him today. And i can't believe honestly what i'm here. I've seen people all day long attacking trump because he's worried that we have 13,000 violent, but he's calling attention. They're white people in this country who are committing far more murders then immigrants no matter is also white immigrants and the cote and donald trump is a white supremacist. He is generating nativist language to appeal to genetic basis of behavior that is a classic definition of what we mean about talk about the why does he keep doing this? it's because this is not the only time he talks about this. He's he has said broadly that immigrants are poisoning the blood of this country. So that has also happened. There's literally a white supremacist trope by the way. But i mean, you can't explain that way the saying is absolutely accurate when it comes to this being very unfair. There have been many cases when i'm on your show and other shows, and i will call out when i think it's wrong. But in this case, i don't think that's what he was saying. This is goes back to that nature versus nurture debate. This has nothing to do with race. I don't care whether it's a white person, a black person, and immigrant and american, somebody who kills somebody may actually have bad genes. And that's been studied for many, many years we don't want people murdering people in this country. I don't care whether they are born here or they come from somewhere else. And we certainly, when we already have crime problem with people who are born here, we don't want that argument that no one over 400 making that one over 400,000 convicted criminals coming to this country and staying here for decades. Because as we all know, we have a broken immigration system which we have a court backlog that extends up through macon really about people who are nearly everyone at this table knows that the rate of immigrant crime is actually lower than the rate of crime bite by us. So you're ok, was 13,000 workers being in the country that's really how it works jake, because i'll let you continue, but i just have to just look that that number it's it's wildly misleading to suggest that that is a number that references a small period of time that is like over the course of many, i don't think anybody at this table talked about so record tying the fact is there and if they'd been here for decades, that's even worse. It's a mile a crime or missing rated over the course of decades is not a sign that there is any greater incidents of crime considering that we've seen the numbers plus people coming in and we may hear this is my point. What about the genetic makeup of people who are already have a problem with that? well why did you feel free? articulated, why isn't it repeated lies basically about those argue border. He's not a moment ago, you said he wasn't talking about immigration. Now you're saying he is talking about immigration. The fact that is why we're not talking. He got he got to ask the question he, has a specific i wanted to see has repeated this live for eight years, that immigrants are in some way more, more prone to criminality, that they're less human, that they have bad blood, that they have bad genetics i don't understand how you can mince words around the racist nature of not he was asked he said he said when he came down the elevator, he said that mexico was sending rapists and murderers. They're sending people would tell us a lot of murders have gotten lower rate than natural with them if it's a lower rate that's the most ridiculous but i don't want to speak if it's here. Go ahead. We don't go like, okay your rapist, you're in you're rapist you okay. Come on and that's not how it works. I mean, these are people who who are not brought in knowing that they are rapists. So there is such a thing as it turns out and i don't know and i think abby's right. This is over decades. And so many of these rape is came in when donald trump and so why haven't we gotten them out? that's the problem. I mean, if they're them had been convicted, they've been in still roaming the counter not know. That is not true know. They aren't been they are are out there countries we find out about it later, sun and they get up in mourning rameen nation numbers that you're referring to in this car that immigrants will ever account for white. Man is seen as the dance the perpetrators of violence that is extraordinary in this country is well documented, but you don't appeal to a genetic basis. This is classic white supremacy in your justification of it, is an extension of that latter one's talking about race. That's the problem. No no, we're just talking about that x and immigrants or kinetic basis so my commits a crime we want out of this country. I don't know how we could be arguing about that point, right balance is arguments about genetic on a second. Let me let me just play, just so that people understand that we've been talking about trump's comments about immigrants over a course of time. He's been talking about this for a while and talking specifically about basically people's genetic makeup of the people who are coming to this country. Listen nobody has any coming from. It's poisoning the blood of our country. They're poisoning the blood of our country. The poisoning the poisoning our country a lot of it's about the genes, isn't it don't you believe? the resource theory i think were so different, you know, i believe in the resource theory, fast horses produce fast horses says an old that rapist by their color and why they're immigrant status i just think this is offensive i let me give you the political reality that we're in right now. And october huge majority of the american people believe and know that we have an illegal immigration crisis in this country kamala harris got asked three times on national television tonight if it was wrong to change executive orders the way they did on day one that allowed this huge flood of people to come in and she would not address it because she knows that how politically damaging it is there are people all over this country and every political party and independents, two who know full well that if she becomes the president, we're going to have a permissive immigration structure, even more permissive than we had under biden. And that's day and they will leave donald trump will crack down on this and that he has the common sense viewpoint that hey, maybe we don't want violent people and you know, they don't go down the list and say rapist in rapist and they just go down the list and say in why don't we know if they've been convicted of a crime in another country? it's broken, he will crack down on its, she will not. And everyone is just perpetuated the same lie that donald trump has been saying for eight years that we're letting in violent people. We are letting in, we are and again. I'm sure i can't say what the word he described some shole countries, those were countries in africa those are countries with brown skin people that he said, how can we can have more immigrants from norway, like the widest country on the planet. You're going to say that there's no race inflection here, that this is just i'm worried about crime come on, you know better and you should know better if you are an immigrant with whose name is joseph, you're in if you're wholesale, you're not. The point is that the discrimination against to discriminate in terms of distinguishing whose violent and who's not ends up being ironically inadvertently, you wink, wink tethered to race and to the immigration policy that is premised upon denying the legitimacy of american status to these people. Why is it that we got to pick them? mount in terms of you're violent because you're mexican, you're violent because of the dominion just kind of better more. We're able to maybe try donald trump. Table hi partisan bill that raises a lot of people are foreign wanted to time here to go export a bunch of right guys. We're going to have to go here, but again with a lot of these arguments. You're making an articulate argument, you're making an articulate argument. Donald trump is saying that they've got they're poisoning the blood, that they have bad genes those are not the same conversations that are coming in and they're rapists a lot to fed when it came down more well next, a computer analysis takes a look at donald trump's rhetoric. It is not only getting darker, but is it has devolved to a fourthgrade level plus see what happened when six 60 minutes confronted tim walz about his false statements, about his past. That's next black people had an explosive reverberation after kanye said it, this was a lot of people's faces because it felt like he said the quiet part out loud that moment all laid the groundwork for black lives matter for better or worse, a lot of people came away from that debut and it's my turn to talk almost say tv on the edge, moments that shaped our culture. Sunday at nine on cnn should check out, inspire sleep inspire, sleep apnea, innovation, learn more and view important safety information at inspires sleep. Com is dead, but thrown his vacant the responsibility for the conclave and falls upon you were about to choose the most famous should be careful about sounds ominous god has given us eyes and something has happened this is a conclave out. It's not a war, it is a more fed enough secrets. Conclave. Radio dj only in theaters up so by 25th and no what not rich as hell. I'm the one that really needs it's the break, not the people that are already rich and have the money. The one 1% don't serve anybody but themselves so for them to get a tax break? no, that's not cool. Kamala harris will make billionaires pay their fair share and she's gonna cut taxes for working people like me. I'm buddy and i'm not rich as hell, and i'm voting for kamalaharris. 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There are new analysis track trump's speeches and they found that they've grown, quote darker, harsher, longer, and greer less focused, more profane, and increasingly fixated on the past they've got the numbers to back this up, 13% more all or nothing terms 32% more negative than the first time he ran 69% more, swear, words, which is called disinhibition, according to the experts and some of us have more disinhibition than others, maybe on their bad days. But i mean, the interesting thing about trump, i think a lot of times when you look at how he speaks is that really now these rally speeches, they, they're running two hours, sometimes. And a lot of it is incomprehensible and it's hard to understand the times kind of shows what that looks like. I'm sorry. Could i just introduced everybody here to kamala harris? have you ever listened to her try to answer a question? listen to her losing that. We have analyzed donald trump's speeches. We, you literally listened to her, says absolutely nothing. Answer's no questions, ignores every serious policy question and we've got to run on a computer on donald trauma. Let home heard kamala harris in the last block right. Okay. So let's play donald trump. This is an excerpt from 2023 that the times pulls out to kind of illustrate one of the phenomenon that trump does when he talks, which is talk about all kinds of other things other than the thing he met to talk about panama canal. We lost 35,000 people to the mosquito malaria. Yeah, we lost 35,000 people building. We lost duty 35,000 people because of the mosquito vicious. They had a built under nets. It was one of the true great wonders of the world, as he said, one of the nine wonders of the world down was one of the seven is happened a little while ago, you know, since nine wonders or well, you could make nine wonders. He w