Transcripts For CSPAN Key Capitol Hill Hearings 20240622 : v

CSPAN Key Capitol Hill Hearings June 22, 2024

On display by some member of congress, mostly republicans, as it relates to the livelihood of the director of office of personnel and management, will be on display when it comes to protecting the identity of about 22 million americans. And if that requires additional resources, both to protect the system or to ensure that these individuals can be afforded the Identity Theft protection and credit monitoring that they should get, then well certainly look forward to the strong bipartisan support it should have. Would the president or director come to the conclusion that it would be much harder if not impossible to have those conversations if she remained at the head of the o. P. M. . Josh im not aware of discussion along those lines. The president is expected to deliver a speech on tuesday in philadelphia to the naacp. Considering the context of the moment, can you suggest to us what the president , will he have a new message in a same way . Josh the president will focus on the need to reform and improve americas criminal Justice System. At the Naacp Convention in philadelphia, hell outline the unfairness in much of our criminal Justice System, highlight bipartisan ideas for reform and lay out his ideas to make our country fairer, smarter and more cost effective. On wednesday, the president will travel to the choctaw nation of oklahoma to deliver remarks about expanding Economic Opportunity for everybody. The president will continue his focus on criminal Justice Reform on thursday by making the first visit by a sitting u. S. President to a federal prison, the el reno prison outside of oklahoma city. While there, the president will meet with Law Enforcement officials and inmates and conduct an interview with vice for a documentary that will air in fall about the realities of the criminal Justice System. That will be the focus of the president s Public Events next week and the speech at the naacp will be a focal point. That will be less about racial issues in the country the last two or three years and much more about the specific issue this policy issue of criminal justice . Josh criminal Justice Reform will be the focus. What are the administrations attitudes so far based on what its heard in the last 48 hours between the European Union and greece . You indicated earlier this week you thought there might be a landing spot. Whats the assessment . Josh at this point we have seen and welcomed the proposal that was put on the table by greece. It is something thats currently being considered by their creditors. We have said for quite some time now that the solution or the resolution to greeces financial challenges is a package of reforms and financing that will put greece back on the path of Economic Growth and sustainability. Doing so would allow greece to remain part of europes Currency Union and thats something we believe is or that the greeks have articulated im just trying to get your sense of what you think . Josh this will be something for greece and their creditors to evaluate. And we are just pleased to see that were pleased to see that greece has take the step of putting forward a specific proposal. Its one their creditors have to evaluate. On your discussion of the president s appearance, the Washington Post is reporting on thursday the president will commute the sentences of dozens of nonviolent offenders to call attention to his desire to see those with drug convictions and others be part of criminal Justice Reform. Can you confirm hell do that on thursday and how that decision will help get the reforms out of congress that he seeks rather than his critics saying hes doing something under his own Authority Without consulting them . Josh i dont have the Additional Information about next week to share at this point. I can say as a general matter, the president has used his executive authority previously to commute the sentences of nonviolent offenders and i certainly wouldnt rule out the possibility that he would use that kind of authority in the future. But i guess let me finish by saying that that is certainly not a replacement for the kind of broadbased criminal Justice Reform that the president believes is necessary and that enjoys some bipartisan support on capitol hill. And the president is committed to working in bipartisan fashion to make progress on legislation that would do far more to bring fairness, more fairness and more justice to our criminal Justice System than the president can do on his own. Can you comment on the response to this, its been reported they have lots of details. You cant comment on this . You know the answers. Josh well, im certainly not going to make any announcements about the exercise of president ial authority prior to the president making a decision to exercise that authority. Thats never happened before . Josh i dont know if its happened before but its not going to happen in this instance. Josh, let me even on my colleagues last day you didnt really answer his question. [laughter] use me however you want. [laughter] let me try one more time. With 22 Million People who have had their identities compromised and some of the other americans who are interested in this, that the white house tell them whether or not they believe this was a failure in management. Josh jim, i think what it exposes is that there are significant challenges that are faced, not just by the federal government but by private sector entities as well. This is something that Large Organizations that maintain large Computer Networks are continually trying to address to and that is the ever evolvingthat is the ever evolving threat in cyberspace. This is a priority the president has discussed as a priority even on those occasions when it is not landing on the front page of every newspaper. That is an indication the president recognizes how important it is and recognizes that this is a challenge. As this has not happened would you still be the director of opm . This is in reaction to a failure in management. Josh the office of Personnel Management is facing a set of urgent challenges that require a manager with a specialized set of skills and experiences. There is no doubt about that. At the same time, one of the first things the director archul eta did as they the office of personal management is start up grading. It is a result of those reforms that she put in place that this breach was detected in the first place. Again, given the urgent challenges they are facing right now, it is clear that a manager with a specialized set of skills and experiences is needed. Those are conveniently enough, the skills and experiences that she brings to the job. We will need a permanent replacement and that is something we will start working on today. On iran, the iranians seem to be saying josh [inaudible] the iranians seem to be saying that the allies p5 plus one are not united in their request to iran;. I know you do not want to get into details but can you tell us if there is one message coming from this group to the iranians or are there different contingencies and constituencies in this negotiating group . Josh let me answer that in a couple of ways. I do not think we are talking about when it comes to the i5 plus one, we are talking about six different entities. The European Union and several other countries. These are sovereign countries that are in view. I will point out that these negotiations would not have reached this point whether not solid unity among the u. S. And our international partners. This is the kind of unity and unanimity of opinion that did not exist when president obama took office. You recall in early 2009, iran was on the march and making significant progress toward developing a Nuclear Weapon and the International Community was fractured in their response, was flummoxed in terms of how to confront this urgent challenge. It is because of the leadership of the president that the International Community has been united, united in imposing sanctions against iran that negotiating table, that halted Irans Nuclear program and rolled it back in some key areas and had made significant progress in trying to reach a diplomatic agreement that would shut down every single pathway that iran has to a Nuclear Weapon and get iran to cooperate with a set of inspections that would verify their comply meant compliance with the agreement. That is an indication of how far we have come. And a lot of that progress, not all of it is attributable to the leadership of the president of the United States. Back to opm for a minute. Who is in charge of making sure this does not happen . Josh there are a couple of omb initiatives that are charged with doing that. The first is what i think they are calling their cybersprint. This is the effort to rapidly reassess the Cyber Security at federal agencies across the administration. This is where they are considering offering authentication verification. This is where theyre considering the Privileged User thing i was talking about with julie, making sure theyre limiting the number of Privileged Users and limiting the capability of those users where appropriate, monitoring activities of those Privileged Users to prevent this kind of thing from happening again. Those kinds of commonsense steps are the kinds of things the o. M. B. Is leading a review to determine where those kinds of steps have not yet been implemented and Holding Agencies accountable for implementing them in short order. Theres also a broader, 90day report being convened by o. M. B. Again the department the director of national and intelligence and the office of Personnel Management are involved in the broader, 90kay review. Theyre being aided by a range of Law Enforcement agencies to take a broader look at a range of key policy questions that relate to Information Security and cybersecurity. Again, thats an indication that this is a priority. The other indication i can give you is the fact that, or one example, one illustration of how this is a priority is that at the previous Cabinet Meeting convened by the president of the United States, cybersecurity was at the top of the agenda. This is an issue that was extensively discussed where o. M. B. Talked about how they would work with d. H. S. To make sure that all the cabinet agencies were meeting their goals and were meeting deadlines when it came to, or when it comes to implementing these commonsense reforms that are critical to securing the federal, the Computer Networks of the federal government. All these things you talk about are just in process which isnt very comforting to people who work with the federal government and see what happens to these employees, so why should they be assured . Josh because i think the other thing that we have to acknowledge and the other thing that has to be recognized here is that the technology that were talking about is everevolving. It actually evolves really quickly. We need to make sure our defenses are always adapting to those challenges. Thats why theres never going to be a time when anybody is going to come up here and stand at the podium and say our work on cybersecurity is finished. The day we do that well probably be the most vulnerable federal Government Networks would be. Because we know our adversaries are determined, theyre create i, theyre innovating and capitalizing on developments to seek out and exploit new vulnerabilities. It almost sounds leek you feel we cant keep up . Josh no, what im suggesting is we have to work hard to keep up. Right now theres plenty of evidence to indicate that theres a lot more work to be done to keep up. There are a lot of proposals out there by the federal government but the region senators, virginia, maryland Eleanor Holmes norton is here are proposing far beyond what was proposed yesterday, three years of monitoring that there be a lifetime of honor of monitoring of identity protection, and 5 million in Identity Theft insurance. Is that something the president would get behind . Josh we have not taken a close look at that proposal as of yet. Obviously at o. P. M. They are developing the suite of Identity Theft protection and Credit Monitoring Services that could be provided to those individuals whose information may have been breached. Or compromised. But at this point, thats something theyre still working to develop. Well obviously consider the proposal that has been put forward to congress. The president of the National Federation of federal employees has expressed concern that the original breach, which was 4. 2 Million People, that the government was already struggling to keep up with that and expressed his worries that how could they possibly then keep up with something thats nearly five times as big . Will there be anything that goes out officially between now and the time youre able to identify exactly who all the people are and get those letters out advising federal workers whats going on, what youre doing, how this will all unfold . Josh there is a website thats already been established. I believe its at opm. Gov cybersecurity. This is where individuals who believe they may have had their data compromised, individuals who may have applied far background check. These that information about what steps they can take right now is information that o. P. M. Has made available. But there will be Additional Communications that will be shared with those individuals once we have more information at our fingertips and have more granular knowledge we can then use to determine who exactly is at risk and make sure they get the information and protection they need. Finally, given whats happened, i realize its very soon after this was announced, its only be been a few days the president has had this, but has there been any discussion of something beyond o. M. B. , something thats a particular person, like the buck stops here, who is in charge of federal Government Cybersecurity . Josh this has been a challenge in a lot of ways. This is the essence of another debate that is on going and not moving fast enough in congress. One of the challenges in confronting cybersecurity vulnerabilities is the seam that exists between private sector Computer Security professionals and Law Enforcement and national Security Professionals in the public sector. One of the most important things we can do to improve cybersecurity both in the public and private sector is to streamline communication between Law Enforcement and National Security officials and leaders in the private sector. The president put forward very specific legislation to congress more than six months ago that the congress hasnt passed yet. This should not be something that gets bogged down in partisan politics. This should be a place where democrats and republicans should be able to Work Together and we havent seen congress do that yet in a way thats brought a bill to the president s desk. So thats certainly one way we could address one of the themes youve identified. The other thing the administration has sought to do is to try to benefit from the extensive capabilities and knowledge that exists in the private sector. And we have seen a number of Computer Security experts join the federal government to try to lend a hand not just to this effort thats under way at o. P. M. But also to address some of the broader policy challenges that exist across the federal government and we certainly are going to do everything we can to continue to ebb sure that those individuals have an opportunity to serve their country and serve in the federal government and help us confront this very significant challenge. Since you brought up congress, let me ask a react i question, i was looking at the o. P. M. I. C. Report from last month, there are a lot of things theyre develop, theyre in process of. Among the findings, o. P. M. Didnt maintain a comprehensive inventory of servers. How did it get to this point . Josh i guess for an update in terms of where they are, id refer you to o. P. M. The other challenge that director archuleta acknowledged at the beginning of her service is that the office of Personnel Management had to maintain a lot of legacy systems. These in some cases were even outdated Computer Networks. And securing them against modern threats is a significant challenge. And i do think it raises questions about proper levels of funding. It raises questions about something weve discussed in this room before, which is the procurement system thats in place when the government

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