Next, the organizing director at quentin. Why are these people here . Why arent they deported or why arent they still imprisoned . I am the organizing director. We have been around the past eight years and we came out of a direct response to the contract that sheriff arpaio signed and put into a limitation into implementation. We were born out of the crisis and a few years back, a big piece of the needs of our key minute he beyond community beyond doing the protest and the legal stuff it was essentially on a casebycase basis. Our people were saying they need support. My family, my husband my daughter is in detention and we need you to help us get them out. Jose found out about our work inside the jail and called his wife and said to look for us. We have been becoming experts at understanding the legal system, helping families navigate it and fight to get their loved ones out and in the past two years, we have gotten over 150 people out of detention through this level of advocacy and political education and leadership building. [applause] thank you. I want to come back to catherine. If you could expand a little more on the experience of fighting for your parents. We saw in the video you want to d. C. And kept fighting. How the think this will shape your future, set the rest of your life . I went to washington, d. C. To talk to congress. After that, i started going to marches, protests, different events where i could speak to people to make them helped me so they could help me get my parents out. I also got involved with puente. They were ably big help. They were always there even after my parents were out, they were always supporting us. In the future, i think this will help me because i am going to be a stronger person. What ever i become in the future, i am going to be strong and have more knowledge of what i am doing to help me and my community, my family. It is something that me and my parents are never going to forget an experience that will scar us forever, but now i know that we can live in not total peace but 95 peace so we can stay here together and i think in the future, there will be a big difference for everyone. Not just my family, but for everyone in the community. [applause] will you expand a little bit about what arpaio symbolizes and how he has impacted politics. The icon nationally for the antiimmigrant movement, donald trump. There is a legitimate discussion to be had about immigration in this country and about how to proceed forward. There is a legitimate escutcheon. You cannot have that discussion with people who believe that we are inferior, criminals, rapists , murderers, and believe we are raising our children that way with those values. What arpaio is is a moral gathering point for the people that exists evil that exists in this country. This battle, this clear hate against us he became the beacon for it. As his popularity grew, he gave license to others to speak in that most vile way that he has described us, Catherine Catherines family that most vile way. You think about arpaio and all of the and traditional institutional evil. He is a beacon of evil for racism. Donald trump is trying to take his place and he is welldressed with 1 billion but we will see whether he has his reserve of hate and people in his get. Ut. It appears he does but that is what we face and that is who arpaio is in this state and country. Victoria, what has the legal battle looked like with arpaio . We always hear he will always almost go down. I think the litigation has started with immunity in the county. We currently at the aclu have two major lawsuits challenging the activities we have heard about today, the worksite raids and the crime suppression sweeps we heard about. That litigation i think in part, we got to that point where we had to bring this to the court because politically arpaio had free reign and i think through the court, we have had some major wins, frankly in stopping worksite raids and ending the crime suppression sw eeps and finding Court Findings that arpaio engaged in racial profiling, violated constitutional rights. These have been major victories that have been carried by the community through their experiences and having that affirmed by a court and also having a court order that there be major reforms taking place in the agency itself. I think one of the important things that has come to light out of the litigation is the disrepair the agency has been in as a policing agency in this country and as we look at how Police Conduct themselves across the country ncso is an important example of what reform looks like in a police department. Through the racial profiling case, we had an order from the judge ordering training revision of policy, data collection, body cameras to monitor the activities of a sheriffs deputies, ordering the Sheriffs Office to stop enforcing immigration laws, stop Immigration Enforcement activities. Those have been major wins. They have, to cut there have been people in the Community Forward and testified in hearings, then plaintiffs in these cases and used the courts to be able to end those practices and frankly, it is the beginning of a conversation about what happens next. I can go through the history of the cases. Im sure many of you are following what is happening in the racial profiling case. There are currently content he contempt hearings going on against arpaio for violating court orders. We will be back in court monday despite arpaios efforts. We will see on monday how we will proceed and hopefully the back on track with hearings to address those violations of the court order and what the remedies will be for the community and work from there. That is not really an update on what the litigation look like but if anyone is interested in knowing more specifics about the cases, i am happy to answer those. We have had some major wins in defeating arpaio but the committee has really driven those cases successfully. I want to ask you you work to fight other peoples cases. If you could talk a bit about what you do and a similar question i had with catherine. How do you see your experience shaping your future . How do you think it will affect your future . I work with puente and im helping people detained like i was fighting their cases. We are not lawyers but we help them because i know there are lot of people that cannot afford to pay a lawyer. I do it because i dont believe in families being separated. I just do it because i dont want anybody suffering the way i suffered. I dont think there should be children without their parents. And that is really why i do it. The way i see this affecting my future in a way it has already affected me. Due to the criminal charge i was left with, im no longer eligible for daca which was my only hope so i could go to college and get a better job and have a Better Future and help my family. But, for now, those dreams are kind of just going with the flow. But, i am not going to stop fighting for what i believe is right and that is why i joined this lawsuit. I have the faith we will win. [applause] carlos jose, how did you feel when you heard your family was outside fighting for you . It was an emotional video were your children are talking and pushing to get you out. How did you feel when your family was fighting for you . Jose [speaking spanish] translator there is a video made that was very moving to me. Jose [speaking spanish] translator they fought really hard for me and im really proud of my family. They gave me strength to really withstand the time i spent in jail. Very hard to be in jail and have your children outside. They call you and ask where you are. I had to lie to my children the first two months. Because i did not want them to know i was in jail. The first time i spoke to them inside the jail, i said i want to vegas to work. My youngest spm on was five years old. He kept asking me when i would be back. I would say i was not sure because i had a lot of work. They would ask me for pictures of where i was. How was i going to send pictures if arpaio took away my phone . I said i will send you a picture. One time, my eldest son asked me when i was returning home. I said i did not know. He said he must have a lot of money because you have working a long time. I said yeah. He said when i came home he had a list of toys he wanted me to buy him. I said ok. I could not lie any longer. So i had to tell my wife to tell the truth. I did not have the courage to tell them. My wife thought for fought for me a lot. She never left me alone. She worked to sustain my children. She paid for the attorney. She paid all of the bills. I am very thankful for her. There was a moment when i told her i would not do anything and i would selfdeport. Because the attorney was taking money and not doing much. She said no. When i would speak to my daughter alejandra she was a person that gave me a lot of strength. She would tell me that i was there because god believed i was strong. And to fight and not give up. She told me to keep fighting and fighting and not give up. They also told me while i was inside that my father was very sick. I cried because i could not speak with him. I just knew he was a sick and was going to die. Without being able to do much myself. Theyre moments that hurt and will hurt for the rest of my life. [applause] to close the panel, what is next . What did the demands look like . Why are we marching tomorrow . Has anybody here heard there is a big protest happening tomorrow outside the 4th avenue jail . Great. That is good. So come as we have heard from different folks here, a lot of our people have gone through the 4th avenue jail, including myself. It is a terrible place. At this moment, it is a very volatile moment for arpaio. When you have some free time you can read about why. He is in big trouble in the courts and his ratings are down and at this moment, we can tip the pendulum our way and there have been some small moments where that has been a possibility. He is in big trouble and we want him out. We want his resignation and not only that, but we know with him gone, his entire legacy will not be gone and we have a lot of work to do beyond him leaving. Everything from the terrible conditions in the jails and human right violations to the racist practices on parole to what he has symbolized and the trend he has set for the entire nation and what he represents for a very rabidly racist conservative base in arizona and across the country. Money of the people who give him money are across the country not just in arizona. You would be shocked to see how much money people put in to his campaign. We want him to be gone. We want justice for all his victims in terms of people like jose like catherine and her parents and the thousands of lives he has devastated. We want 10 city shut down. We want tent city shut down. We want an host arpaiofree town. Tomorrow, we will be outside the 4th avenue jail. We are taking kicking off the campaign. When you get arrested and you look like me, you get sent to an ice agent if you dont immediately give them an id. We have heard about the horrors. We will be demanding tomorrow ice out of the jail. To uproot the sickness we have been living with for the past 20 years and we hope you will join us. Thank you. [applause] carlos we have some time for some questions. If you will ask questions, please keep them short and please use the microphone. We probably have time for 3 or 4 questions. Say your name. I have spent some time in the deal also and i noticed even manipulating the system as a collegeeducated white girl, i was in there almost a week before i could figure out how to make a phone call. They gave me a handbook on how the jail operations work but at the first opportunity when you go anywhere but a search you. You have to do the whole of noxious of noxious obnoxious thing. The first time i did that, they took all of the things in my pockets and did not give them back. The reason was because they noticed i had been making notes. If i was a spanish speaker, how would i figure this out . I was wondering if you could speak a little bit to that part of the experience where you guys are like double punished by not even being able to understand what is going on there. There is nothing in spanish, no translation. I can imagine it was just hell. You have so much respect from me. I know what it is like in there for me and i saw what it was like for girls like you and it was a lot worse. As bad as that is my situation was, i cannot imagine. You have my mad props. If you can talk about that special discrimination. I have a question about the specifics can everyone hear me . If they took couldnt he have why didnt he get impeached long ago . [laughter] based on the fact how many human right violations there would have been. That is a human rights violation, probably a couple dozen policies. And then one of the people i cannot remember his name but a very important person to not come this year because he was too worried about him and his family getting assaulted by arpaio. Thank you. Great question. [applause] [laughter] my name is kimberly ellis. Yesterday, i went on the borders store with carlos tour with carlos. It was transformative. I spoke with liz who also went and we have been processing the whole time. We consider ourselves informed and there was so much we did not know. It was very heartbreaking. It is like i cannot move forward in my life without helping to address this situation. The first time i heard about sheriff arpaio in a real and fluid way was with the jodi arias trial. I saw the racism in the jodi arias trial, and when i talked about it on twitter, i was attacked. I have never been attacked like i was when i said i sought a racism here. This is without knowing any of the other aspect. For me, for the people i work with back home, we associated dan brewer being a bad person. I did not make that connection between sheriff arpaio, jodi arias, and how it effectively served to ramp up White Supremacy and imagery, although she is not an undocumented citizen. So my question is, number one, i asked carlos, and he said it was disconnected. I wonder how you process how the jodi arias trial made things worse, or did it help . I dont really know. Number two, i was concerned about issues of solidarity. What is the background relationship here . How is there a discussion about haitian immigration and how they are treated in florida . There needs to be more working together, and there are ways to do that. She said on the stage that people raise money nationally for sheriff arpaio. We experience the same thing. People raised money for Darren Wilson and george zimmerman. But we can raise money nationally for our causes. We have to Work Together to do that. Carlos thank you. Maybe noemi, you said you helped other women. Maybe you could answer the question about what it was like for other women who didnt speak english and what they had to go to navigate the jail. Noemi when i was in there, i actually got to experience, one time, one of the guards, she started yelling at this girl because she had put away her apple for later in the day because we werent going to get any more food after that. She started yelling at her, and started saying, you stupid mexican, you need to get rid of your apple. The girl stood there and looked at her. She had no idea what she was saying. I went up to her, and i was like, she is not understanding you. And she was like, well, why is she here . Why is she in the United States if she doesnt speak our language . I was like, that is none of your business. But i can tell her she needs to get rid of the apple. But you dont need to insult her. She was just like, well, she has been here for a reason. She must be a criminal like everybody else. I was like, look, lady. There is no reason for you to call her a criminal. You dont know the reason why most of the people are in here. And she was just like, well, you are acting up. I will write you up and send you to the whole. To the hole. And i said, it is not right, the way you are yelling at her. I think they take advantage of us when they see we are mexican or whatever, they are like, they dont speak english. I can insult them and they will not say anything. I saw that many times, and i dont think it is right. They dont understand, they dont know all the bad things they are being told. To them, it is like, oh, i have to do what they say. Or i remember one girl, she said [speaking spanish], and i wasnt going to tell her the mean things she was being told. But it is hard for them. They never understood what they were being told. There were times when they wouldnt get their food because they wouldnt hear their number. Thats how bad it was. They didnt know what number. We would go by numbers. We werent being called by names, we were identified by number. Sometimes they would miss their food because they didnt hear when no number was called. When their number was called. So it was hard, not being able to understand. Carlos thank you. Victoria why does the food stay the way it is . Why arent we changing that . I was on the recall committee, we were wondering that as well. Victoria the issue of Language Access in the jails it was raised by the department of justice or filed a lawsuit against the sheriffs pop the Sheriffs Office in 2012. One thing they raised has to do with access to resources material translation for nonenglish speakers in the jails. But it has been a systemic problem in the jails. Certainly, noemis experience is commonplace. It is awful. Hopefully, we will see that remedied in some way, through the litigation. The question, i mean, i have to say, it is a hard question to answer. The conditions in the jail. Litigation can only get you so far, i think. We have been challenging the conditions in the jails for years. The case is 40 years old. It only gets you so far in terms of how you can change the conditions inside the jail and what is minimally required to comply with the constitutional standards that you can raise in the litigation. It is not really an answer to the question, but it really is the reality of where you can get with litigation on some of this. We continue to monitor those conditions. We have medical and Mental Health monitors that going to the jails, and review what an cso is doing. We continue to do that. One of the challenges when we are talking about jail and detention litigation is, how to bring some of that information out of the jail, and how to show litigation to the public, making people in the community, making people sub such as yourselves, aware of what is happening inside the jails. It is a difficult system to penetrate, unless you are in there or you have someone who is in their who is impacted i by the conditions. To be able to speak to the change we want to see in there. Carlos alfredo, if you could talk about why he hasnt been impeached. Or will, other spectacles we have seen with the jodi arias trial, and ending with the final question about politics in arizona. Alfredo i may be the only person in arizona who did not