That is an important subject for us. In the iranian sense there have been more forward positions. Very few advisors come to the u. S. Less than 200 in comparison to 2000 u. S. 200 iranians on the ground. The problem is not that the iranians are on the ground. They have different techniques, experience and so on. To that effect, we could see commonalities. As far as politics are concerned, we have to be careful. By the way yesterday there was a report in belgium talking about support. We do not need the belgian military support, we need political support. We said it we need all parties to help us. We see a Common Threat, we have a Common Threat with countries. As much as we can get help to that effect, we have no psychological support. I will ask one more question and then turn it over to the audience. One of the main messages that has come from director comey is the messaging campaign, the strength of the Propaganda Machine isis has been generating, particularly in recent months. General allen, youve said this cannot be a message that is an american message. Unless it are, im sure youve been working. What is going on in iraq . Was an arab countries in the gul f to combat this. Or nongovernmental organizations may have more credibility. Mr. Faily the primary message is isis is a cancer within our body, we need to get rid of it. This foreign entity should not hijack the sunni brand or the islamic brand. It should not be seen as International Jihadi tourism. To that effect, i think people do not see what, let me call it do not see the trendiness of isis. Eric they dont see it . Amb. Faily no. Population wise, no. Talking about the richness of them, you do not need to be rich to be destructive. They do not maintain a state. Salaries, they do not pay that. To that effect, they do have structure. Do they hijack the majority, no . Do they have a silent majority yes. We need to make them more vocal and the fight against isis. Eric theyve got money to burn. There attracting not just fighters but families being part of a settlement campaign. How do you combat that in a counter messaging standpoint . Mr. Glaser my message is we are going to succeed and depriving them of their ability to use resources. Ive been at the Treasury Department for over 15 years and ive spent that time listening to people explain to me that Financial Measures cannot work. I was there in 2006 when we first started to devise our sanctions strategy. The one thing everybody agreed is the iran sanctions cannot work. Now the only thing everybody agrees on is what brought it to the table was the economic and financial pressure. We will succeed in depriving them of their ability to use their resources. Eric general alan, you said last week that a counter messaging is an uphill battle. As you message seems to resonate with young people who are primed to hear it. How do you counter that . General allen it is about countering the message and reinforcing norms that work. The aspects of regional societies that create a strength and an ability to be impervious to this message and we are constantly looking for ways to counter the message and strengthen the faith of islam and strengthen regional norms. We do that by talking with our regional partners. For example, within the middle east. You will hang king abdulla from jordan talk about it regularly. We must take back our faith, which i think we agree with him on. He has been very clear that saying in the middle east, the counter messaging must have an arab face and a muslim voice. When i have spoken to leaders in Southeast Asia they are concerned about the potential for the spread of violent extremism and groups destabilizing over the longterm. We will see, just as recently was opened a counter operations strategy. We are looking for them in other places as well. So we can create a network of messaging centers we can energize quickly. Eric none of that has relevance unless you deal defeats to isis on the ground. Youve got to create the perception isis is losing before anybody will listen. Gen. Allen isis is willing. When you listen to their communications, they have problems with more out. Not long after they killed captain kasasbeh, many disagreed. They were killed. During the time of kobane, there was a moment when everybody said we were going to lose that if you listen to the telephone they were terrified about inc. Sent to kobane, being killed by defenders or killed by coalition air. Activities along the border in syria has rendered clear messages, many places within the daesh infrastructure where morales not good. Where morale is not good. Eric really click from the ambassador. Amb. Faily in relation to mainstream islam, it is losing the battle. In a sense of messaging, that is an issue we all have to to make sure Vulnerable People are not attracted. Thats a global effort. The other aspect of it, in the sense of iraq, that is more manageable and there is a coalition focus. In syria the brand of isis will not diminish. Eric im going to turn it over to questions from you. Identify yourself. Right on here. Thank you. Chris with cbs news. Question for general allen. Can you describe whether the discussions with the turkish government, Prime Minister erdogan, about the possibility of instituting some kind of air exclusion zone in northern syria. The turks have asked for that and would like to see some kind of regime by our air assets in the north. Was that in any way part of the discussion to obtain the use of incirlik . Gen. Allen no. It is not part of the conversation. Not part of the discussion at all. Thank you. Hi, mike with joshua news. For mr. Glaser. Conflicting reports after the iran deal was signed that general soleimani was ready to have sanctions lifted. Was he in line to have been lifted . Was your office consulted before his name was put on the list . Mr. Glaser im not here to talk about the details of the Nuclear Negotiations with iran. As a general matter, as everyone knows, the nuclearrelated sanctions will be lifted at the time that irans compliance with the agreement has been verified. With respect to details, i would have to get back to you. Is he on what list . Mr. Glaser general soleimani to extent that hes involved with terrorist activities, he would remain sanctions. To the extent that the sanctions are related to the nuclear program, the sanctions will be lifted. Those sanctions will be lifted when irans compliance with the agreement is verified. A question to the ambassador what is iraq, is it sunni shiite, or a group of nationalists . Banding together to form a new country. Where is that going from here . How do you see it today . Amb. Faily this is geopolitics or history . [laughter] eric you got two minutes. Amb. Faily im kurd and shia. Where do you put me . I think iraq has evolved as a country. Based on democracy liberalism, market economy and so on previous to the 60 years of dictatorship police state. We are at evolving country in the sense of a new project social contract between the communities. How do we form or are we moving forward . I think it is still ongoing. It is up to our communities how much we want to have what we call interdependencies to strengthen. Not just the issue of identity the issue of the country. It faces challenges, it is up to iraqis to do something about this. International support is required. The change that has taken place after the arab spring across all regions, to that effect it is in our hands what we can do about it. The country has got an identity to define the identity moving forward. Zdf german tv. Some European Countries are trying a new approach. Denmark is focusing on foreign fighters returning to a country. Trying to find those who might be disillusioned and acting against daesh. That is a strong and powerful message as we saw last week. This has nothing to do with islam, this is pure slaughter of women and children. I was wondering is that an approach that we should pursue in the future. Gen. Allen it is and it is something we have spent time looking at. When foreign fighters come home, and they are going to come home one way or the other. How we deal with them is going to be very important. The idea of a single sanction solution, longterm detention or imprisonment, is probably not going to deliver us where we want to be. What we have discovered, denmark is a leader in this area. There are other european states that have as well. Saudi arabia with the bin nayyef center has been a leader. The country i spent a good bit of time studying of late has been singapore. One of the key members of the coalition. They have an active de Radicalization Program for foreign fighters, with the intention ultimately of not permitting longterm detention or imprisonment to be the single sanction outcome of someone returning. The reason for that is if you view the dealing with foreign fighters in a circular rather than linear way dealing with foreign fighters begins at the point of radicalization. Whether it is social media or the imam or the family, you could have a very powerful effect upon that moment of radicalization by recruiting the foreign fighters, de radicalizing them, reintegrating them so that their voices are prominent at the front end the two most important voices weve heard in this process and something we are watching very closely and encouraging states to adapt in their way the rehabilitation process has been before in fighter who was disillusioned, was able to get home and tell the horror this is not a utopia, this is a nightmare being part of daesh. The rehabilitative foreign fighter voices powerful. The other voice powerful in impeding or preventing radicalization is the mother of someone who has given up to be a foreign fighter. Theyve lost contact with them or they have been killed. Or they have come back and they are in longterm detention. Those two factors are very important in deradicalization and preventative measures. In yellow . Dina from National Public radio. Following on the question and your point about more outcome a couple months ago we heard isis had decreed Truck Drivers were not to pick up fighters along the road because they were concerned that lost people were deserting. Are you seeing any uptick in desertion from fighters there . Mr. Glaser gen. Allen we are. Reporting is sketchy. But the sense of disillusionment with the reason that they came to begin with, the sense of being empowered from wherever their point of origin was, the sense of joining a holy cause to support the socalled caliphate is often dispelled very quickly. So we have heard about desertions. Weve heard foreign fighters who talk about disaffection in ranks. Weve heard a significant report about daesh summarily executing elements of the foreign Fighter Community that display any willingness to take a path apart from the caliph, the caliphate or daesh internal regulations. The sense that they are a monolith, juggernaut inevitable , all of that is far from the truth. It is nowhere near the truth. Eric right here in the middle. Gavin. It seems this is mostly about hearts and minds. This is mainly a military operation. To what extent has or should our government be trying to win the hearts and minds, for example what is going on in the middle east is the perfect example of why there should be separation of mosque and state. The fact that shia and sunnis are fighting within egypt, every country proves the point that the mixture of religion and statehood is a really bad idea. Eric can you get to your question . Sure. Billions are spent on the military for public diplomacy. Could you comment on what you think should be done in that area . Amb. Faily there is a military side in the sense of not giving isis or daesh breathing space and the ability to be in control on the offensive. To that effect, iraq, syria and other areas require International Focus on the military side. Daesh has its own destruction. Until that moment, the trail of destruction in relation to cities, identity, heritage and culture, that of the threat. Is not that daesh will flourish it has its own destruction. But it will take a lot of damage with itself. As far as trying to contain the problem was in the middle east, what you see in libya has nothing to do with sunni versus shia, it is internal. What you see with the jihadists who go to france, that is not sunnishia. It is more disillusionment which we need to focus on. To that effect, the u. S. Should not lead the antiislamic message. It needs to precipitate and bring parties together in islamic countries. Scholars, whether it is in egypt najaf saudi arabia or others. I do not think you can separate the church from the state or the mosque in our region. They are too deeply rooted. It will be a futile project to work on that. For states to have roll rule of law, understanding the nationstate concept, thats a clear message we have to work on. That is our obligation. Eric great note to end on. I want to thank the panelists and the audience for great questions. [captions Copyright National cable satellite corp. 2015] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. Visit ncicap. Org] on the next washington journal, your phone calls and reaction to the republican president ial candidates debate. After that tom file and pilip bump discuss demographics of voter turnout since the late 1970s. Plus, Facebook Comments and tweets on washington journal, 7 00 a. M. Eastern on cspan. Later, a briefing on medicaid and housing policy. The first in a threepart series exploring the intersection of health and social policy. Following new york city mayor bill de blasio recent 22 Million Dollar initiative on Mental Health and homelessness. Held by the alliance for health reform. It starts at noon eastern on cspan. When the senate takes its on its august break, we will feature book tv on cspan2 beginning at 8 00 eastern. At the end of the summer, look for special programs. Saturday, september 5, live for the National Book festival. Followed on sunday with our indepth program of former second lady and senior fellow at the American Enterprise institute, lynn cheney. Television for serious readers. Mitch mcconnell held a News Conference at the capitol. He discussed a range of issues, including the Iran Nuclear Agreement and how to avoid a Government Shutdown in september. This is half an hour. Good morning. The day after the election, the American People expressed their opinions. There were two things on their mind. The president was not very popular. We talked about the issue of dysfunction. The sense that nothing ever gets accomplished here. Too casual observers, they were not sure where the dysfunction was to you worked around here, you knew it was in the senate. The senate was basically shut down for literally eight years. How you measure dysfunction . One way is you vote on amendments. We had 15 roll call votes on amendments in all of 2014. So far this year over 160 in the first half of the year in four of the last five years, the senate did not pass a budget. The law requires us to pass a budget every year. Weve done that. That is not enough. My goal, looking at the government who gave us a divided government, weve had a divided government more often than not since world war ii. What are the American People saying . Why dont you look for things you can agree on and try to make progress for the country. And so, what i have tried to do is emphasize things upon which there was some bipartisan agreement and bills that were big enough to be worth doing. We led off with the keystone pipeline, and although the most important democrat in the country did not sign it, it passed by an overwhelming bipartisan majority. We passed a budget. That is not a bipartisan exercise, and it was not this year, but we have also done the Iran Nuclear Review act, a rewrite of no child left behind, a multiyear highway bill. Clearly, the senate is up and running and trying to focus on things where we can make progress. What is not helpful is rhetoric like the president has been using as recently as this morning, comparing republicans in congress who have legitimate concerns over the Iran Nuclear Agreement to those in tehran yelling death to america. My view of this is, rather than this kind of crass political rhetoric, we ought to treat this issue with the dignity it deserves. What i have said to the senate is we will handle this debate in the following way. We will try to reach an agreement to have a specified amount of time to talk about it. I will ask every senator to be at their desk, actually listening to what others are saying. Each senator will get an opportunity to speak and be listened to by other senators. This is an extraordinarily important issue for our country, not only now, but in the future. Remember, the president will be gone in a year and a half, and the rest of us will be living with the consequences of this extraordinary agreement, which certainly has transformed the middle east. It certainly has. We are now entering into an agreement in which we are basically being asked to trust the biggest funder of terrorism in the world today, so it is appropriate to have some skepticism about the debate of this magnitude. Regardless of how the president talks about it, regardless of what his incendiary rhetoric is, we are going to deal with this in a respectful way, dealing with the facts surrounding the issue, and treat it with the dignity and respect that it deserves here in the senate. With that, i will be happy to throw it open to what you would like to talk about. Yeah. Reporter another thing you said right after you got reelected when you came back in january is we are going to avoid Government Shutdown. You repeated that yesterday. Senator mcconnell were not doing Government Shutdowns or threatening to default on the national debt. Reporter there has been a debate on planned parenthood, many of those in your own party, many of whom who have challenged you, saying very loudly that the only way for that bill t