In this place, and help us process the information to be respectful toward one another. We thank you for the respect people should give unto you in christs name, amen. All right. Thank you. We will let mr. Brown convened with his question and then go to the lady here. Ok. Look. The mayor came out to listen to us. We are not here to scream and complain. Everybody, just calm down. In 2017, i was just as frustrated as you are. But i did not scream at the mayor or congress. I want you to know what the police go through. That is how we should deal with this, they are human beings. There are things that need to be changed. But giveet it done, them a chance to listen to our complaints. Do not scream at them. I went through their eight weeks of training at the police academy, and i understood a lot. He came personally. He did not send nobody. He came personally. Give him a chance. Pete buttigieg is a good mayor. Give him a chance. Give him a chance. Give him a chance. [applause] look. I am frustrated, i am frustrated. We are killing each other. But guess what . We are going to get this straight if you give him a chance. [applause] thank you. There is a young lady who has been waiting. Thank you. I do not understand how you expect anyone to talk about respect and an oppressive society. [applause] what is respect in an oppressed society . How can you blame the victim of last night in an oppressed society . , i what you can do today have two minutes. Today, what you can do there are ways to assess the way people think. Do you understand . Racistspeople who are off the street. Reorganize your department. [applause] you can do that by friday. Let me calm down because i need you to hear me. You can do this by friday of next week, this week, whatever. Each of the people in and inventory, you will get data back. Polarization gets off the streets. Intercultural development inventory. It,ou do not want me to do dr. Hammer is the person that created the scientific tool that is used at Police Departments. Reorganize your reorganize your department by friday of next week, and based on data, get the races off the street. It is disrespectful that i wake up every day scared. [screaming] get them off the streets. Desk and make the them do paperwork. Make the people who want to make a difference be the ones on the street. Thank you. May i respond to that . You might stay around long enough for me to respond. First of all, thank you for that. I appreciate the way you said it, specific, actionable, constructive. Anyone who ist if on patrol is shown to be a racistor to do something in a way that is substantiated, that is their last day on the street. Love to be able to finish my reply, if that is ok. I would appreciate being able to finish my reply. I believe you have described a specific tool that can be used in order to identify indications of racism. It is not familiar to me, so i think you for bringing it up and i will research it right away. [applause] any tool that can help the city make good on a promise i just made is a tool i want to know about. Thank you. You have the microphone. Yes. The truth never wants to get heard, but the truth must go forward. Since we want to have church for our churchgoers, go on. In the book of proverbs, Chapter Eight verse 21, we are going to take it on in. Out at the city gates and, you fools, how long would you be foolish . Fun ofg would you make wisdom . I have been in this game standing in spirit and truth. I have an army behind me, believe that. You just never gave me a spotlight. You all threw me under the bus. I am going to ask mayor pete, are you going to leave me up under their under there . Aint reallyut i like that. I heard you call me a bitch. [shouting] all right. Ladies. F you only had listened [shouting] ladies. I appreciate that. Lets be respectful. I called and you refused to listen and you held out i held up my hand and you refused to take it. This is a proverb. In 2012, my son was accused of murder. This is why the this is what the devils of south bend say. Black do nothe like wheeler, because i am talking to black supremacist, not just white supremacist. Black on black crime has destroyed any officer and we are being destroyed by our own black community to get to the people to handle the problem. That is why the black community do not like wheeler. That is why my childrens lives have been endangered in the city. That is why i went out, even though i was the lowest of the that wase was a group put in place for black on black crime by these two individuals appear. Up here. Came out the call came out for single mothers in the black community that were experiencing difficulty with our africanamerican sons of south bend. It is not our fault that some parents fail to utilize what is put in place, so we can have a conductive way of handling black on black crime, but you did not want to listen. But i did. So if anybody is not at what i got to say, i am not hard to find. Thank you. But can say thank you your time is up. I really appreciate your question. Thank you so much. Would you give the microphone up, please . Would you all clap your hands . Would you give the microphone up . We appreciate you. Shouting] [shouting over each other] if i may, ladies and gentlemen, let me reintroduce the rules of tonight. I know we have a lot of people that want to make remarks and add questions. But the questions, let them beat what we are here for tonight. I know a lot of people let them be what we are here for tonight. For those who cannot hear me in the back, if we can make sure that there is no line forming out of safety, because we want to make sure everyone feels safe in this environment. Ladies. Ladies. Ladies. [shouting] can we have an office or come over to this area, please can we have an officer come over to this area, please . I know emotions are high, but i want to make sure we have a productive conversation. I get it. We all have a stake in this. But please, let the questions be asked. Thank you. And please, stay in your seats. We will get to you. There were cards that were handed out. I have questions with names, as well, and i know there are people who have been waiting who have questions. So please know you are not being ignored. I just want to make sure that people get a chance to have their questions. We as a city have been hearing the concerns and questions about this particular case, and i want to make sure we create a space where everyone can listen to those questions and the answers, because we have answers. Not all of the answers, but answers about the process. I know there have been questions that are asked of us. O please, give us the space please, give us the space. To share that information with you. I want to continue with the questions you have and then we will go back to the qi day. Q and a. Thank you for bringing us up to date and positioning us where we are now. Lets ask a about resources. Lets talk about trust. How do we bring trust back to our police force . Fire the chief. Why are you asking them . Mayor pete, if we could address that . It is going to be important, as i look at our community, obviously, our Police Department is here to serve and protect, but if we cannot trust the Police Department, it is difficult for them to do, and it is difficult for us to have a relationship of any kind when there is no trust. Trust has beenat broken in our community, and we have to do something about it to regain the trust. We cannot just have this kind of a meeting, and we walk away and not commit ourselves to a process that will bridge this gap. So i believe that question is critical. Let me tell you some things i think might help, but let me also acknowledge that the entire community has to feel empowered. I have shared some of the things when i spoke earlier that we have done up until now. It is also clear that we have a long way to go. Clarify the chief has my confidence. [applause] no [shouting] mayor buttigieg let me mention a few things that i think are examples of areas we could work on together. I would love to hear more, either tonight or in the weeks to come. There are several areas where we know there are a lot of concern in the community, whether it is a policy, practice, or both that the community might not have confidence in, and that we could invite the community to help us reshape. I will mention six. One is the use of force. There is a written policy around the use of force. Is it the right one . Could it be improved . We could have a process look at that. Cameras. O, obviously, there was a lot of concern about what it takes to have the confidence that body worn cameras are doing what we intend them to do. Third, the process for investigating an officer involved shooting. We have described the process. The way it works. He goes to metro homicide, prosecutors decide if charges should be followed before anything goes to the police. That is not the only process we could have. Process,is another that Community Members believe could lead to more trust, we should explore that. Number four, investigative process more generally. When there is a complaint about an officer, who do you complain to . How do we determine if that complaint is valid . There is a process for that. We can explain and describe the process. Perhaps, we could also improve it. The board of safety, it is in state law. It does but that does not mean there is all to the story. We could do things before, after, or around it. [applause] including different forms of civilian review. We could even engage the state about whether if state law is serving us well here in south bend. [shouting] isor buttigieg since there a lot of interest in the board of safety, before we move on if ithat topic, forgive me am missing or misremembering something, because i do not remember fully everyones full career backgrounds. But there were five seats on the board. One is vacant. I will be making an appointment soon. The professional background of the others include a former pastor, a former Police Officer, and one businessperson. Ok. The fifth out of the sixth is training. Policy does not mean much if people are not trained well. Case that there are other things we can do around training to empower residents to have a role in how we shape that. On the sixth out of the sixth, an area where i will accept responsibility for the fact that we have not met our goals is recruiting more diverse members of the Police Department to begin with. I do not know if those six things is all it would take to deliver trust, but what i will say is those are examples of very important things in this community and in policing that we could work in a collaborative process as a community to review and perhaps revise. And if there are others, i promise that any specific suggestion about an action that will increase trust will be taken seriously. That i or these chief or counsel or anyone will all agree on what the right thing to do is, but i promise we will find a way to have Community Voices heard, to have good ideas taken seriously, and to move in the direction of greater trust. [applause] thank you. Ourselveswill offer to help you build trust. We have dr. Moss, who is a phd and is part of our Community Share leadership role. We have dr. Regina hill and we have cara, who is a lawyer. We will offer our services to assist in helping to build trust with you, the Police Department, and our community. And we look forward to be engaged in that process. Mayor buttigieg we would welcome involvement from naacp and other community organizations. Thank you. [applause] last question i have, what resources exist for people affected by officer involved shooting . This is important, our community is grieving. Certainly, there is pain, especially from the incident on sunday. There are people, as we have seen tonight, friday, thursday, and other parts of the week, there are some challenges. And certainly, the raw resources that are community could participate in or understand that they have an opportunity to utilize the resources that you would offer. So, any family that is impacted by an officer involved shooting, we know there are certain things people need. Not all of which can come from the city. There is the desire for answers. That is why we seek to get information out as accurately and quickly as possible. Invariably comes lower than what is desired. There is a desire for justice. Thats what these investigative processes are about. It is one of the reasons why i am taking care not to say would fill my nose at those processes. Thumb my also nose at those processes. There is also a question of resources. Impacted couldy use help with the costs of things. This that is an Area Community [indiscernible] [shouting] mayor buttigieg may i finish . Lying generoustigieg a Community Like ours might be able to do something to help in that regard, as well. Ok. Thank you. [shouting] lets move back into question and answer. Do you want one more . [shouting] i have one more question to raise. ,hen we talk about the process there are a lot of folks involved in the process of addressing challenges, especially when we talk about, and procedures with the Police Department. Fopave the board of safety, lot ofometimes having a folks to answer to can become cumbersome and slow the process down. Can we speak, you made mention of a review board that would add to what we already have, which, now, even being in the military, and air force veteran myself, sometimes the process is cumbersome because you add to bring people into an agreement for a situation, and that became somewhat difficult, because you had different personalities at each table. So we talk about fop, the board of safety, we talk about the chief and the process that works with him, and then your process. How do we make this all work when we have so many people making decisions at the table . Mind,re unity, oneness of can you speak to those type of things . No [laughter] mayor buttigieg one of the things you said before that i want to address, i am looking at everybody sitting out here, and advocates,lked about the prosecutors have people. When they call, when somebody is a victim of something, to help them out. But what is never known is what did they do it for . I will tell you nothing. I look around here and see many people. Reverends, priests, rabbis, they come out without being asked to try to help with whatever the situation is. The smallest ones to the ones we are seeing now have come out. But itas remiss on that, was much appreciated in our department. Nobody ever gets recognized, and i am just telling you, i want to send out a personal appreciation. You know who you are who are in here. It means a lot to see you out there, not taking sides, but doing what is right. [applause] thank you. Much. Nk you so [shouting] dealing with fop on the board of safety and the process of our chief and your process, pete, can you share some things in regards to that . Good buttigieg it is a question. Perhaps the process can be improved, but to the extent that it is what it is, the next best thing we can do is provide as much information as we can about it. I do think we can find other ways to structure the process, or add to it or simplify it. This is convoluted, i get that. I that is Something Else would Welcome Community input on to improve. Ok. Thank you so much. And thank you for inviting us in. I appreciate you staying in the way that you have, you are wanting to invite the community and to be part of the process, and we believe we can help with this process. So i think we have a win, is that right . All right. We are not going to go back to question and answer. Going to go back to question and answer. We are going to take a few more questions. People. To the i am the founder and president of the black Power Movement in south bend. I am a shooting victim from mothers day. I was shot at 16 times. I caught two of them. I worked with the city on numerous occasions. This, everything i am saying, it is not biased at all. , and chief, we have had conversations on the worktable. We just heard all of this and i wish, as much as i love my city, lord knows they help me saying, but like i was like i was saying, like i was saying, i want to say i love this city so much and i want to support you, but i refuse to lay down my respect for these people out here that are hurting. Itsounds meaningful, but aint. How can we trust this process . How can we ask another black man to be part of the Police Department when you all have Sexual Harassment and you will promote the bad officers and demote the good ones and dont shut down racism in your department. How can we trust you . When that young man got ran over at the stoplight, what did you say, mayor . You stood there and blamed him. How are we supposed to trust you . You partnered with a lot of the stuff we dont deal with in my organization, and i understand that, but when the city messes up, our people are hurt. Dr. King everybody out here wants to be Martin Luther king scholars, right . Unheard and was that is why you are getting the reaction you are here. Samee been fighting the fight with these people for six years. I got retaliated against for trying to fight. Taked down bygot police. Peopletaliate against who fight back against them. How can we trust you all . I told you friday to do your jobs. If you want our votes, you have to have a moral compass and do your job so you can sleep at night. All right, we appreciate you and your time. Minutes orhat two three minutes is not enough and i apologize for the lack of time we have, but, esther geithner, were you able to ask mr. Geiger, were you able to ask your question . [shouting] Money Council approved for the body cameras, right, years ago . A number of people had brought this up. I want to know why, according to the companies that produce the body cameras, they say that once a shot is fired, it is supposed to record. The family was speaking on the air about this, councilman oliver read the article from the south bend tribune that reported that you said the body camera, this is what it is for. Conversation, a News Reporter who was conversing with a Police Officer, you all said it did not have that sensor , so it would not go off. And we want to know why. It was paid for in full. And you wrote the policy, right . And the duty manual . Were going to talk about that, right . There are all of these loopholes. It is at the officers discretion if the cameras turned on or off, you have to flip the switch, all of this stuff. So maybe they could, if its bad enough, they could record the situation. Why was it not alr