And will bring you any remarks. Washington journal continues. Host we are back. Andrew desiderio is here to talk about the impeachment hearings that get underway tomorrow. 10 00 eastern time, who is testifying and why . Guest george kent and William Tyler are testifying. Assistant toeputy the secretary of state. An ambassador in ukraine. Both of them are talking about the shadow policy under Rudy Giuliani and the quid pro quo. That is sort of what democrats are going to try and draw out of them. Host where will they sit . Guest where every other witness sites. It will be a bigger room than we are used to and they will be basically right next to each other facing questions from lawmakers and lawyers. Lawmakers of the the Intelligence Committee . Adam guest adam schiff and devin nunes. Adam schiff will control how the hearing goes and he will have to operate within the bounds of the resolution that the house passed last month regarding the procedures. How manylly controls 45 minute rounds that he and devin nunes get, during which they are expected to yield much of their time to staff attorneys who are more effective questioners than lawmakers. Host we have not seen devin nunes come to the cameras while the closeddoor depositions have been going on. What role do you think you will play . Guest he has become skeptical of the press. He used to talk to us all the time on the record on background and off the record. Awadays, he has gone on Certain Network and tried to disparage the press and he does not trust us. That is his view. Other republicans have filled the void like jim jordan and others eager to defend the president on camera. Devin nunes has not been as eager to do that. Host jim jordan is the Top Republican on the House Oversight committee has secured a position on the Intelligence Committee. How did that work . Guest they had to remove one republican from the Intelligence Committee, congressman crawford, in order to make room for congressman jordan. He will get a five minute round just like any other rankandfile lawmaker, but it said a lot that mccarthy had so much trust in him that he would remove a member from the Intelligence Committee and at jim jordan. He is a higher breathing defender of the president , and effective questioner and that is what people will see. Host go into more detail about these rounds of questioning and how they work. Guest the chairman, adam schiff, it gets to declare as many unlimited 45 rounds gets to declare as many unlimited rounds for himself and devin nunes. They are expected to yield much of their time to the staff lawyers for the republicans and democrats on the committee who have been doing much of the questioning behind closed doors. If you redo the transcripts you can identify who are the more effective questioners and that is who each side will want to use. After that point, it will be 15 minute round for the rankandfile lawmakers. Adam schiff does have the ability to call up fiveminute rounds, but he is expected to do one or two so that he and devin nunes can control all of the time in the hearing. In that way, it will be much different than viewers are used to. Host tell us who the council is for the democratic members, who is he and what is his background . Guest there are two we expect to see, Daniel Goldman and daniel noble. Yearsldman worked for 10 for the u. S. Attorneys office in the Southern District of new york. Daniel noble also worked in the Southern District of new york. Both of them specialize in fraud and foreign corruption crimes, which is why adam schiff brought them on to be director of investigations. They will have the most prominent role for the democrats. Host on the republican side . Guest there will mostly be a man by the name of steve castor. He is congressman jordans chief investigator to counsel investigative council. He has now shared staff, so when counsel congress been jordan was brought over, they brought steve over. Congressman nunez is expected to yield much of his time. Thereyou said mostly, is another lawyer that could do questioning . Guest during the deposition phase, other lawyers on different committees have asked questions including the Foreign Affairs committee. The Foreign Affairs committee will not be involved in the public hearings, is basically just going to be the Intelligence Committee and whatever shared staff is brought on. Almost all ofally the time in terms of the staff lawyers on the republican side to mr. Castor. Host republicans insisted that other witnesses, the witnesses that they would like to hear from get called before the committee, one being the whistleblower, others being hunter biden. Any indication that that will happen . Guest there are a couple of people i can see democrats volker, number one kurt mike ross were thinking about calling him anyway because he was one of their witnesses behind closed doors. Others like hunter biden and the whistleblower, and the people that the whistleblower talked to, for example are much likely much less likely to be called if not impossible. Adam schiff has close the door to that right now. He said something over the weekend like the committee will not be used as an arm of the president s desire to launch politically motivated investigations like he tried to do to ukraine. That is essentially what the republicans are trying to do by calling hunter biden and one of his business associates, and of course the whistleblower and the sources that the whistleblower spoke with. Host what parliamentary maneuvers or committee maneuvers to republicans have at their disposal to try and disrupt the hearing, or will they do that . Guest they have few given that the house passed the resolution outlining the procedures. It will be strictly operated by adam schiff, but i would not discount the ability by republicans to launch these procedural claims and points of order, and things like that like they do it other hearings. Maneuvers do you think adam schiff will make to try and control hearings . Guest just like any other Committee Chairman would do they have a gavel and they can basically shut anyone up whenever they want to. It could be difficult because there are a few firebreathing defenders of the president. Jim jordan is now on the committee, devin nunes is a strident defender. John radcliffe is a senior number. The president wants nominated once nominated him to be director of intelligence. Those of the people you should watch. Host who will we who will you watch on the democratic side . Guest congressman jim himes, the number two on the committee. He has proven himself to be an effective questioner, and of morrissey,r christer he is a new member, but democrats i have talked to have leaned on him during the depositions in terms of his questioning of witnesses. Those i think will be the focal points for democrats on the rankandfile side. Host let us get to calls. Paul in new york, a republican. Good morning to you. Morning, your thoughts on the public impeachment hearings. Host good morning. Caller good morning. Sir, you misled the cspan listeners in the beginning when wassaid that Rudy Giuliani running a shadow operation. Daylight,e in broad many people know about it. Second, the reason that mr. Schiff does not want the whistleblower to testify is that mr. Schiff does not want the American People to know who the leakers are inside the white house that contacted the whistleblower who has second and third hand information, because he knows that President Trump will terminate their employment. Thank you very much. Point, itthe first was a shadow Foreign Policy. We did not know the full extent what was happening behind the ies in both key have, k andiev, brussels, washington. Claiming a lotas of these things in broad daylight, but we do not know how much he was in contact with people in the state department and how much they were trying helping Rudy Giuliani. In that sense it was a shadow Foreign Policy because we did not know the full extent. Host will this committee or the public here from Rudy Giuliani . Guest very unlikely. He has already spurned commands for testimony. He was subpoenaed last month. He was one of the first witnesses that the committee had called. Rudy giuliani did not provide documents either. He briefly retained an attorney to help them out with these congressional inquiries. And wrote a letter to adam schiff saying that we will not comply. Do giuliani cut his lawyer loose because he did not Rudy Giuliani cut his loyal his lawyer loose because he did not need a lawyer any longer. Host mobile, alabama. Caller i agree with the gentleman that says this individual had said his bias when he brought this up about some shadow government with giuliani. That is bias. He just she is just repeating democratic talking points. He is bias. This guy is biased. The second thing that i had been islowing the second thing is that i blame the media for a lot of this because the media does not do any research on things. They just go and repeat talking points. For example on this whistleblower law, there is nothing in the law to say that a whistleblower has to remain anonymous. I researched it yesterday because i was watching you and whenever you bring that up, they always say you cannot do that. There is nothing in the law, i read the whole law yesterday, to say that a whistleblower must remain anonymous. Host let us take that point. Guest he is right about the protection laws, but what my credits have expressed concern about, and this is not me they just just not me saying this, they do not like the precedent of outing a whistleblower for political purposes. That is not what republicans are trying to do. Adam schiff did say that he wanted to hear from the whistleblower. Adam schiff came under fire for this because a member of his staff had been in contact with the whistleblower before the individual filed his complaint, and adam schiff was not truthful about his committees contact with the whistleblower. He has acknowledged that he could be more forthcoming about that. Secondly on the shadow Foreign Policy. Almost everything that we know about it we did not know before the process started. That is why i keep referring to it as a shadow Foreign Policy. That devin nunes asked adam schiff be deposed before they start the public hearings to talk about the role that he had. Do you think that adam schiff will address this at the top of this public hearing tomorrow . Guest i would expect that when and if republicans launch procedural motions he will have a response prepared. Adam schiff has talked about this in his various media appearances, and as i mentioned before he has acknowledged that he could have been more forthcoming about this, and republicans have used that to their advantage. Host tomorrow mornings hearing gets underway at 10 00 a. M. Eastern time as we talk about our coverage live. ,lso on our website, cspan. Org you can listen. If you are nowhere near a screen, if you are Walking Around and doing other things you can download the free radio app and listen on that. That is 10 00 a. M. Eastern time tomorrow morgan tomorrow morning. On friday the same lawmakers here from the former u. S. Ambassador to the ukraine at 11 00 a. M. Eastern time. Our coverage begins on cspan2 and cspan. Org as well as the free radio app. Yovanovitch on friday . Is there a reason for the order . Guest we do not know, because we do not know who will follow them. Marie yovanovitch, democrats are trying to make her a sympathetic a sympathetic figure because she is someone who would be Collateral Damage to this parallel track that Rudy Giuliani was trying to run. There was the one he was pushing and there was the one the u. S. Government was trying to push. Marie yovanovitch was painted by giuliani and donald trump as being disloyal. The president eventually ordered her recall in may. My credits will try and paint her as a victim democrats will try and painter as a victim and as Collateral Damage. Host what is the point, to impeachment . Have a lot of what they heard his testimony from state Department Officials about the roll up insta publicly support Marie Yovanovitch which is not directly related to the articles of impeachment. Democrats asdo for it gives them a sympathetic figure that they need to help bring the public along. I think that is something they recognize as they go into the public hearings. Host linda, detroit. Democratic caller. Caller thank you for taking my call. Jordan on the committee tomorrow . Host yes. 175 accused cases of molesting or being there or whatever. Committeehe be on any to let our children see someone like him . This is a disgrace. The republicans should be ashamed. If he was a democrat, they would have put him off the next day. Since they did not, i just do not believe he should be in front of the tv where our children have to watch him. He is disrespectful, he is a clown. Host i just want to clarify for those, because this is the cnn headline. Lawmaker accused of ignoring Sexual Misconduct. A new lawsuit accuses jim jordan of failing to take action against Sexual Misconduct when he was an assistant coach at Ohio University in the 90s. Let us go to tim, a republican in florida. Caller i hope you indulge me because your guest is being very dishonest intellectually. If we go back to everything and we start at the beginning, you hear these people talk about quid pro quo and that, but what is the difference between what biden did and whats trumpeted . You talk about foreign interference in our election, i heard himes. The representative from connecticut, and i have seen him on three different occasions, fox news sunday, meet the press, where he stated how his head is going to explode over what he heard. These people need to understand something, these politicians will tell you anything, i do not care if you are republican or democrat. Every time a politician opens their mouth figure that they will live. With adam schiff, ok . He has been very dishonest from the get go. Ok . He did not come forthright the fact that the whistleblower came to his staff, i do not care if it was his staff for him, and talk to him about how to file this. Ok . Most people employed in the United States of america, the Human Resource department for these corporations and companies have company handbooks. I am pretty sure, as big as our federal government is, that they have handbooks on how to handle Different Things in the government pertaining to things that they hear that they think might be out of bounds in the proper procedures to follow to go to it. I am pretty sure that there is not one that says you need to go to the house of representatives to this committee and tell them what is going on. So, a Quick Response to the last point. Whistleblowers actually do reach out to the congressional committees, house in house intelligence, son is senate intelligence, that very often happens. The Intelligence Committee gets two to three potential whistleblowers coming forward to them each month. Common actually a very occurrence in terms of whistleblowers as being congress for guidance before they actually file a complaint. As a gentleman also mentioned, chairman shift and knowledged that he was not completely forthright in his big from the beginning about this whistleblower. Host Andrew Desiderio with politico. We are going to roger, in virginia, a democratic caller. If you give me a couple minutes like you did the last dude. I am wondering why cspan, the one i am watching, not now, do not show the impeachment hearings like you did to benghazi. For six years the Republican Party made us wait before they would do anything about the economy, and then now they want us to bend over and kiss them on the heel . Host i am not following you . Cspan is not covering them . Not start until tomorrow . Caller they did show them. Host because the house was in session. We have a commitment to cover the house. We cover the senate. On cspan that is why the hearing is on cspan3. When they were showing the benghazi hearings, we know the house was in session sometimes. Itt we might have simulcast when the house went out for a brief amount of time. That is entirely possible. We do not control the house schedule. Understand. Not i would last i would like to ask why donald trump would not show his tax returns. Luis, rodrick sperry, virginia, a republican. Fredericksburg, virginia. A republican. Caller i think what we are witnessing is something that the founders were really worried about, and the one thing that they were extremely worried about was the tear any of the legislate tyranny of the legislature. They put fences around the president and they limited what the president could do, and his duties were clearly stated, and they did all of the right things, but they could not quite of a handle on the tyranny the legislature, and that is what we are looking at. It is the very thing that the founders were the most concerned about was this problem. Interested in watching it carefully and that is all i really have to say. Host who will you be watching during this Committee Hearing when it gets underway . Guest the first person is adam schiff to see how he answers these questions and devin nunes. Beyond that, the staff lawyers on the committee, Daniel Goldman, and daniel noble on the democratic side, and steve castor on the republ