All of you and welcome to senator burr and senator warner. Both of you have had very long careers in Public Service and i know that you have when the house in 1994 and senator warner in 1989 worked with doug wilder before becoming governor yourself of virginia. What inspired your career in Public Service . What would you say to young people today who would like to pursue a career in Public Service . [laughter] id like to thank and i actually am a little bit older then richard but i dont acknowledge that. He dies his hair. Not anymore. At least i have hair. I like to say that i was old enough to get touched by the idealism of the but not old 1960s. Enough to get jaded by it. I grew up in the midwest indiana and illinois and connecticut but it was with synchrony for 35 years. And my family was a personal to graduate from college. And somehow my parents with political and Boy Scouts Church community pta but not political and somehow i always had the bug. Took some time where i went off and did business. Is for one of the things all of the frustrations in politics, when you actually get stuff done which becomes rarer and rarer in our day job the ability to affect peoples lives in a positive way. It is needed more than ever now. Many people in this room my father. Those who grew up in the community. They instilled in me that there is a time to complain and when that is over with you sign up or shut up. I remember the dad told my wife i was going to run for congress. Im still reminded of it. [laughter] 25 years later. Is weve all got to pick where we would like to make an impact. Mark and i served in an incredibly important place at an incredibly challenging time. I think we have talked about it. 20 years from now, somebody will look at how we conducted the Intelligence Committee. How we interacted with 17 intelligence agencies. At the precedent we set and will hopefully follow that. It just so happens we do it at a time where there is a completely different approach on the house side. The obvious thing is you cant do it if we do not trust each other. We dont agree on everything. When we dont agree, we get together and hammer that out. Tie, the chairman gets the win. To my knowledge, we have never exercised that. That i think the institution and certainly the committee and responsibilities of the committee are better off because of how we do it. How do you engender trust between the two of you . A few glasses of line along the wet wine along the way. [laughter] i got to the senate and id never been a legislator. Im a business guy. You get measured by what you get done. I have the opportunity to be a governor for four years. I love that job. I got to the senate and had to throttle back. You realize you will not get everything done right away. Richard and a good friend of richard, a former senator from georgia, we became good friends. We didnt agree on everything. I think at the end of the day the secret sauce that is missing from too much of our politics is the trust. That trust means at some point you will have to be willing to do what you think is right, even if your team does not agree with it. Until you can show your willingness to stand up for something you believe in, that frankly your team doesnt agree earn, you dont fully that trust. I think richard and i have had to try to earn that trust with each other. We give each other plenty of grief along the way. We have traveled some of these times around the world. It starts with a personal relationship. Of theecognition friendship and trusting relationship is more important than shortterm partisan political points. What it issnt know like to subpoena the president s son. He did talk to me and say you are going to do what . The fact is doing things like expect not something you to do when you take this job. The process that he and i committed to at the beginning. We will follow the facts. If you cannot talk to everybody that might be connected, how in the world can you determine what is factual . I think we will probably talk later on about social media and the world we are in now. I am asked what am i scared about . Im scared about what i dont know. What i dont understand. See on the National Media is not indicative of the relationship we have in washington. Mark and i have a good relationship. We would believe that 98 other people dont. The truth is if that was the case, we would not get nothing done. The senate rules around one person to stop anything at any times. We do know which people are the designated jerks on both team. [laughter] i was asked earlier by students, how do you get things done . We identify the people that you have a common interest with. You may disagree with them with 60 of things but 40 you can find an agreement on. With Michael Bennet im doing education. Health care it is bob casey. Used to be i was doing deals with ted kennedy. Why . We believed in the same things on those issues. Also, we are looking for somebody that covers the other ones back. I think in the case of the Intelligence Committee, we do an extremely good job of communicating to each other and covering our backs with our members on the committee when we are taking a tough position. Give him appropriate credit. There wouldve been it wouldve been so much easier in todays world for richard to say im going to go with the flow. As opposed to where we started. We are going to go after the fact. We will follow them wherever they lead. One of the things i am very proud of is the folks that have to do much of the investigation, they had to realize which ones are democrats and which are republicans in terms of staff. There is a host of other areas in the 21st century on technology stuff. He still has a flip phone. [laughter] on technology has recognized that in many ways there is no committee on technology. We have kind of carved out that area. Ur whole host of issues made this comment at the president s house. Redblues future and past. This is a guy that will grapple with these issues. Have painted a rosy picture of washington. 2015 harvard study of millennials, 74 expressed distrust in the government. There is a more recent gallup poll that americans approval of congress remained at 20 from 2019. Approvalcan removal was at 20 for the second consecutive month. Just having declined after two years. You said washington is not broken. The statistics suggest otherwise. What can we do to restore faith in our government and the processes . Americans gety of their news as an alert on the phone. Look at the alert you get at 8 00 in the morning. Look at the alert at 8 00 at night and see if it is different. Tabe we ought to be lking to the journalism class about the standards of journalism. You had to have two sources and one had to be named. Every source today has to be anonymous. Imagine if we had to operate in a world where everybody was anonymous to us. We have interviewed over 200 people in the russian designation. There are maybe 13 that you know who we interviewed because they came out publicly or there was some acknowledgment of a subpoena. There were 180 plus people you will never read about, hopefully that came in and we interviewed because we do things behind closed doors. We are not ashamed of that. We think america is safer because we do our business behind closed doors. Our members do not talk about it. Our biggest challenge when this is over is to get back to where our members dont talk to the press. Where we do our business, which is oversight so that mark and i can look at you and absolutely assure you that everything we do is within the letter of the law or the order of the president. If we breach the confidence that with 17 intelligence agencies, we will not get the information from them that we need to do correct oversight. He would like to be in the press every day [laughter] the fact is that is not wherever committee operates. Operates. Againcertainly nowhere the trust of the people that we do oversight on. All i would say some of the statistics, we have earned it. I thought it was 9 . Your counting relatives and friends. There are these inherent contradictions, whether it is 9 or 20 . We see reelection rates on individual members that top 75 in the last couple of cycles. It is easy to hate congress but love your congressman. Think ano, i do institutional problem we have at this point is we have driven too much power in both the house or senate to the respective leadership. When you dont legislate most of the year and you wait until these big hairy bawls of mass that happened nothing of the , that is not a rational way to do business for the u. S. Often,ent i think we too and i think there was less of this when there was lots of separate bases of power rather than power going through a majority leader or minority leader, does not matter which team, and that he or she raises the money and is more loyal to your team into your country. That is a huge flaw. The biggest difference in business you are measured by what you get done. Many people have worked with in politics, they can tell you what they have been against most of their life, but rarely what they are for. Unless we start to hire people who are willing to give the yes, even if it is not ideologically perfect, we will continue to have this. My fear is, because i dont thing we can continue we have a unique relationship in the realm of intelligence oversight. We have a little more freedom done andf get things they dont always appear in the press. I think there is a huge problem in a world moving as quickly as our world is moving. As you mentioned, the way we see news 65 of americans is , somewhere on the news from facebook and google. That has no editorial regulator at all. If we dont show again that we can get the yes on certain items, millennials and further generations of people will tune out. I say this as someone who likes the press whether richard, i know you want to shoot the tv when the news is on. I feel the same way in and inside the tv. If you tune out, and see, all hell with them, you are turning it over to the wing nuts. I think there are a host of issues through our technology that may be able to be reformulated. There may be certain areas. Round economic incentives infrastructure where everybody already has established positions that may be going bigger. On certain areas we should find for we should put some points on the board so even if it is not the worlds biggest issue, the congress and the government can say we have fixed that and will move on to something else. I think there are a host of areas which we could get into tonight where we could do that. You have both mentioned social media. Strongly about responsible use of social media. Currently it is playing a big role in our political discourse are you concerned about this role that social media is playing . We probably differ on our approach. This is a valuable platform third the American People to communicate for the American People to communicate. From a committee standpoint what ould like to see is a collaboration with government. We would like to see a willingness to participate in those issues that deal with National Security or election security. If it was not for what we uncovered over two years, we might of had a big problem in 2018. We didnt because we had a level of cooperation and collaboration between social Media Companies , not all. With the majors and the federal government and we were able to put in an architecture that made it to the 2018 election without incident. Some of it was a policy change on the part of the administration where we dont brush people off the plate. 2020 is going to be a much more challenging thing. Were fairly confident right now that we can continue expand this collaborative agreement. I think mark has some different thoughts as a relates to regulating the platforms but you have to understand when we saw social media used to create societal chaos in the United States, there was no legislative remedy for this. Because they are under a first amended issue. We could have rushed out and said we will regulate this. It might have made a big splash but the two of us realized that if we did that, it will get overturned in the supreme court. They will say they have First Amendment protection. It is better in this case how government and private sector and academia collaborates together for the good of the eme wey and that is the th are going out with. This my i say background is in technology. Venture catalyst. I was lucky enough to get into the Wireless Industry in the 1980s. We became totally infatuated weh these platforms and became way overthetop technooptimists. We had a Traditional Republican Party that said business, innovative, and to renew or ship. Entrepreneurship. Mr. Obama, fell in love with the fact that google and facebook said theyre going to be good companies. I think they did not even realize the power they were creating. And we were completely caught off guard as a government how the dark underbelly of social media could really get us to hate each other, be at each others throats, be manipulated that iide forces in ways think if everybody fully understood and we are still trying to avoid it. I partially disagree with richard. Im not 100 sure these platforms and their First Amendment rights, but the reason why these companies have no responsibility and have the same response abilities that a Media Company has was because in the late 1990s when we set of rules for social media we basically said lets consider these pipes or as dump telecom companies, and it made sense then. When 65 of the news from facebook and media, section 230 exemption may be needs to be rethought and we have already said you cant do child pornography or sex trafficking. Other countries are starting to look at content. Maybe we ought to have a debate about that. Maybe we should have a discussion that says we might do content if you ask ahead on your content that you posted on facebook and put your real identity next to that, that Companies Like estonia have seen so much outside intervention that the only way you can get on the social media and estonias if you validate who you are. That might work in america, but less if youre a clinical activist in egypt. I dont to simply turn the keys over to large chinese Platform Companies. I would not take that off the table but we have to know what data is collected about us for , what it is worth. We ought to know if we get tired of facebook we can easily move all of our data from facebook, including our cat videos to a new site easily. Data portability and be able to talk to people who remain on facebook. They are competition things around transparency, portability and certain rules of the road. I say again, there will be broad bipartisan consensus in the legislation ive got out there. I think the Platform Companies are starting to realize that they are playing rope a dope with an inefficient congress. It will come back and bite them because when america does not lead in these standards, we have given that leadership to states like california, nevada and others, and we have seen the europeans move on privacy. Countries like the u. K. And australia move on content. All that we have done is that what was the ceiling, will be a new floor when we regulate this is an area where i think there is a lot of common ground. I agree with richard and a sense that we should not have rushed into this and we would screwed up if he rushed into quickly. We had no jurisdiction on the Intelligence Committee on anything we talked about him [laughter] conundrum. The we have talked privately about the fact that if we had committee of technology in congress. Were the only ones that on a daily basis look at the intelligence that tells us whatever what else is doing and the committees that have jurisdiction over Telecom Policy or get involved in defense issues, they dont have what we have. They cant look at it. It is very challenging. The architecture of government is not conducive to the 21st century. You might look at academia and the challenges conducive to the 21st century. What we generate now is the output of what we need for the Economic Opportunities that are there. But governments are never going to be rhetoric under its current structure, the institution that is ahead technologically because we just dont allow technology to be deployed in real time. What he has done, and i have to give you credit, is an area where it is the architecture of our satellites overhead or an area where we are up to her eyeballs in the next generation telecom. Its called 5g. The equivalent of moving from radio to television and all the things we call the internet of things rely on those systems. He has dug in deep. We are because we get a chance to see this from where a lot of the cuttingedge research is being done, which comes out of the dod world and the intel world. We have earned some credibility for thou colleagues that if we come up with some ideas and some stay tuned, seven these areas are going to post economic and security challenges beyond anything we have imagined in the last 50 or 60 years. I think we will have some thoughtful things to say about it. Thank goodness your committee does not have jurisdiction on that. There is broad consensus you cannot remove cat videos. [laughter] moving on. Thinking about the work of your chair of, and its the the Senate Select committee on intelligence with similar corner , you issued a report entitled russians and social media. Read a little bit about what you said in your statement. Senator burr you say that russia is waging an Information Warfare campaign against the u. S. That did not start or end with the 2016 election. Senator warner, in your statement you note that now with the 2020 election on the horizons, theres been doubt that bad actors will continue to try to weaponize the scale and research of social media platforms to erode Public Confidence and foster chaos. Senator warner, you go on to say the techniques of russians are using are becoming more sophisticated. Threats what threats to foreign powers posed to our democracy . You talked a little bit about but we can do to protect our country. We have done this tagteam a few times. It is not just russia. China, north korea. We are spending 750 billion on defense. Russia