App. Judd, a Border Patrol agent. National Border Patrol council is. Guest we are the organization that represents the interests of Border Patrol agencies nationwide. We represent them legally and politically in whatever they want us to do. Host how long have you been a Border Patrol agent . Guest 22 years. Host President Trump is meeting with your group. Can you tell us what that is expected to be about . Guest he will be talking about what the policies of the administration has implemented to make our job safer and, two and more importantly, what he has been doing the border more secure for the American Public. Host you have been a Border Patrol agent for 22 years. Under a lot of administrations, give us a sense of how things are under the Trump Administration, for your organization. Guest if you look at the past administration, we felt demoralized. Policiesot due to by the agency, we were not allowed to do our job. When that happens, we just dont feel good. Everybody wants to feel like they have accomplished something when they go home at the end of the day. We were not feeling that way. Under President Trump, we feel like we are actually able to secure the border. The policies he has been implement in cabin working. Such as the aca. These are policies that he has been negotiating with other countries because congress has not helped. Host looking at the numbers, the apprehensions, the illegal alien apprehensions at the southwest border, 2016, 408,000. It absent when he 17. Inrises again it dips 2017. It rises in 2018. Almost one million apprehensions. Whats going on. Certainhey closed loopholes that were inviting people to cross the border, illegally. They exacerbated the problem. That allowed per minot cartel to recruit people to come to the United States and put themselves in their hand. It allowed criminal cartels to create a huge profit in revenue. When that did not work, President Trump went out on his own and he negotiated agreements with mexico, guatemala, honduras and el salvador. These programs have caused an explanation exponential drop in illegal immigration. Congress refused to work with him. Host what do you think is the thatst misunderstanding americans dont know about the work you have faced on the border . Guest what most people dont understand is they believe the only people we deal with are either from mexico or central america. That is absolutely not true. We deal with people from all over the country. I, personally, have a resting group of illegal Border Crossers that were from poland. Host coming from the southwest border. Guest in arizona is where that was. We have been hit with the coronavirus outbreak. We arrested a few chinese in the del rio. Two of the three individuals were sick with high fevers and we had to immediately transport them to the hospital. This was a couple of days ago. Most people think that all we deal with is people from mexico or central america. We deal with people from all over the world. Russia, brazil, china, everywhere. Host has that changed . Guest no. This is what we have seen throughout my entire career. Host tell us about where you are stationed. Have you been there most of the time . Guest i have moved around a lot. Due to what i do, i want a full idea of what is going on at the southwest border, coastal border and northern border. I spent 15 years of my career in Northern California and arizona. I spent three years in maine and now i am in montana. I have spent the last five years in montana. In a couple of months, i am moving back to arizona. Host vastly different extremes is on the montana border and the main border and the southwest border. Guest very different. We are just seeing news from yesterday, he is moving money around the headline, at the washington times, the president will take more funds from the pentagon. It will take another 3. 8 billion to build President Trumps border wall as he wants to get as much construction as possible completed before the end of the year. Tell us what you see happening in terms of the wall being built. How quickly is that happening . Guest it is being built right now. We have added 100 miles of replacement wall. There is a new wall system that helps secure the border, better. I like to go back to my time in arizona. I worked in a 58 mile stretch of border. We did not have any infrastructure or border barriers, there. We were arresting over 100,000 people in this one, small area, a year. We started building walls and the arrests have dropped down to 10,000 per year. Physical barriers in strategic locations absolutely work. You just have to look at anywhere we have built the physical barriers such as san diego, el paso and in arizona. When we have done that, illegal immigration and drugs, that is an important part. Drugs have gone down through those areas, exponentially. It allows us to dictate where illegal crossings will take place, rather than the criminal cartels dictating to us where they are going to cross. Host the cartels are keeping up the pressure. There was a major tunnel discovered in california and arizona. To go we want them underground. What happens is this costs them a lot of money to do. It is cost prohibitive. If they cannot get their products across very easily, they have to start expending money, which puts a dent into their profits and allows us to go after them with our intelligence department. That is where we always want to be. Judd, he isn welcome to your calls and comments. 202 7488001 for republicans. 202 7488000 for democrats. Ndependents, 202 7488002 have you ever been in a lifethreatening situation . Guest i have. It can be a dangerous job. One thing that i would like to point out is criminal organizations, they are the ones that are going to be dangerous. They try not to harm Border Patrol agents as much as possible. They know that if they do, there will be a lot of public outcry because of what they have done. There is a lot of pressure. There are sometimes, they absolutely have to go out of their way to give us get us out of the picture so they can get their drugs across the border. More are you feeling clinical pressure from washington . Are you feeling pressure from republicans and democrats . No. T when you look at moderate republicans and moderate democrats, they generally tend to agree that we have to secure the border. There is a lot of agreement in that respect. It is when you get to the outliers. When you talk about the radical left and the radical right, that is when you start getting into dont make sense, policy wise. The radical right wants us to shut everything down to where nobody comes in legally or illegally. Wantadical left just dont Border Patrol anywhere. Neither one of those policies work. It is the middleware republicans and democrats can get along and they agreed that we have to secure the borders. Host have you been down there when members of congress or the president have visited. When they leave, when those members leave those fours, what is your tours, what is your general take away . Guest i have sat with President Trump when he has gone down to the border. He supports our mission. Because of that, the morale goes up, exponentially. When you have members of congress, and i will say her ocortez,xandria ocasi when she says we are concentration camps and we are running a gestapo, morel will go into the tank. She specifically goes after the men and women and that is a huge contrast between President Trump, who supports men and women of the Border Patrol. T how the number of Border Patrol agencies, it has gone up in the last few years. We are constantly in the spotlight. Right now, there is almost 20,000 Border Patrol agents, nationwide. Host there was some military involvement in terms of support for you guys. Is that still happening . Guest we still have the National Guard at the border. They act behind the scenes. They run our cameras. They help with certain detention facilities, which allows us to free up our agents to secure the border. They are a great help. Host do you use the National Government because we need to increase the size of Border Patrol . Guest we dont have enough Border Patrol agents to put our agents in the field. When they have to be in the Processing Centers and process individuals or have to run our cameras or monitor sensors, it takes agents out of the field where we need them in the field to control the border. Host host we will hear from host we will hear from jim, first on the independent line. Caller great job, buddy. When they have that law passed in new york, where they had the lines out of the building, they could have snagged some of these guys. I live where they chopped up some people down the block from me. I can tell you, i am 66 now. 66 years old. I have to call the cops every october from april to because the spanish people from south of the border love to blast the music sohost leesbur. Jim on the independent line. Caller i applied your service. I am a veteran. Illegal immigration and immigration are number two in my book. You have to take care of this immigration problem. Downcomment on shutting the border totally, i wish you could take a pause. The assimilation is not happening. Tv. Ave 1000 channels on they can sit there and watch spanish tv or korean tv all day long. I am a construction. I could be making a dollar or two an hour. I go on these construction sites. Large commercial construction sites building homes for these developers. I can speak to maybe one guy in the whole crew. It is ridiculous. Unemployment should be zero. Every ablebodied man it should be out there working. Man and woman should be out there working. Everify should be fully enforced. I cant remember if it is m. I. T. Or yale study where they run the numbers. Probably over 30 million Illegal Immigrants in this country. Ca . Word on the da youru came here illegally, parents have to go home. I will give you a pass on the kids, but the parents have to go home. Host do you want to address this . Guest we have to separate illegal immigration with legal immigration. I dont think there is anybody in the United States that disagrees with legal immigration. The vast majority of the United States does not want to see people come here illegally and game the system and get all the benefits. The parents are subject to deportation. Daca was ruled unconstitutional by the supreme court. The parents are subject to deportation. The problem is finding those people that are here in the United States illegally. When we do find those individuals, ice does a great job of doing their portion of work intoting their the immigration debate. Host the change the administration made, the migrant texan protocols. People can protection protocols. People come to the borders and they are told to wait in a border town until the case is heard . Guest but used happen, and this was the major problem, there are certain magnets that draw people to cross the border illegally. The main magnet was the catch and release program. Somebody would cross illegally, claim asylum, get released into the u. S. And never show up for the Court Appearances. They would do it president obama termed disappearing into the shadows of society. President trump says we have to get rid of that magnet. Intonnot release people the United States and not have them show up to the appearances. If somebody comes up and claims asylum, we send them back to mexico pending their asylum proceeding. If they show up to the court proceeding, they have the right to prove they should be allowed to remain in the United States. If they dont have that right, we send them back to their country. Host some pushback related to the violence in the mexican towns. This is to increase access to court hearings. What it is doing is forcing 62,000 plus asylumseekers to wait in a dangerous conditions with no hope they will ever have the opportunity to get a lawyer and virtually impossible chances of winning asylum regardless of the strength of their claims. Guest what frustrates me is just three years ago, if we ever issued if the state department issued a travel warning about going to mexico, everybody would be pushing back on that saying mexico is not dangerous. Mexico ise have extremely dangerous. The mexicans have certified safe towns are perfectly for these migrants to be in their country. Frankly you hear a lot of anecdotal evidence or anecdotal stories that there is violence in these mexico towns but there is no actual evidence or physical evidence that the violence is taking place. Host is there evidence one called for the folks are coming back . Guest absolutely. We paroled them back into the United States for the hearing. As long as they give us an address or a way we can get a hold of them, we bring all of these individuals that are waiting for asylum back in to have their Court Appearance before an immigration judge. Proof this is not a criminal proceeding. The burden of proof is on those individuals to prove they should be allowed to remain. If they cant prove that, they get sent back to their country. Host lancaster, pennsylvania. Vince on the republican line. Caller good morning. I wanted to say thank you for job you all do down at the border. If it wasnt for cspan i know a lot of folks, democrat, republican, independent, or plain old americans would probably never get the right story. It would not be spun like the media does. Whether it is fox or one of the other ones. There are a lot of folks they dont like what is going on. Because this new bill trying to be passed with 44 as far ason board folks that have been kicked out, going through the expense of taxpayers and bringing them back and having them tried, basically opening up all the borders. Pardon me for not remembering exactly what the law is called. Effort and youur cant be discouraged anymore, someone is throwing another pylon you. Pile on you. Other i want to thank you before you comment. We pray for you. Guest let me address the issue of cspan. I absolutely agree that cspan is right down the middle. They look at both sides of the issue. I can personally appreciate that. They dont take up one side or the other. The American Public needs that. We need to have an honest conversation. When we have that honest conversation, at least you know the truth is and you can make up your own mind. As far as the bill he is talking about is hr 8353. Decriminalizee the process of crossing the border illegally. When we talk about the radical left in the radical right, bills get introduced. It will not pass. It has no support. It does not even have the support of the majority of democrats. It is not going to pass. Incentivize people to cross the border illegally, if you do that, people are going to violate our laws. You cannot incentivize. You cannot reward people for violating our laws. If you do that, they will continue to do that and that is what the bill will do. Host i want to play the comments of the subcommittee chair and the House Foreign Affairs on the House Foreign Affairs. Here is what he said. [video] i have long advocated for robust u. S. Assistance to help mexico strengthen his democratic institution, combat corruption, defend human rights, and improve security. I believe mexico and United States have a shared responsibility to reduce Violent Crimes and improve quality of life to those living on both sides of our border. The United States must enact stricter gun laws, dedicate more resources to combating money anddering by the cartels, increase investment in programs to reduce domestic demand for illegal drugs. A sincerepect commitment on the mexican side to reduce this violence. Host brandon judd . Guest i have never seen an initiation work more with the Mexican Government than the Trump Administration has been doing. The Trump Administration has been trying to put as much pressure and give us much aid to mexico as possible to try to help with this crisis on the border. As far as guns, mexico has some of the toughest gun laws in the entire world. Yet they have one of the highest murder rates due to guns. To say the United States has to place stricter gun laws, i just know somebody from another country should be talking about it. Host where do the cartels get their guns . Guest there are a lot of places. They can get there from china, from many Different Countries. Some come from the United States. Host lets hear from jerry from rhode island, independent line. Democrats line. Caller thank you for taking my call. I am a liberal. Liberals dont like laws. The democrats have had some great bills obstructed by the republicans that said we need cameras,osts, more more technology, more drones. We should be able to know they are coming and be able to greet them with the proper people. If it is women and children, they get dropped off by the kaylees. We can bring them dropped off by the coyotes. Border, locals put in 500 cameras and they stopped the drugs and put them in the ravines in these places. That is what we need to do. A wall is a wall of hate. If youre dropped off by the coyotes and you go 100 miles to a wall, you have to decide which way to go. The chance is you are going to die. If you do it with the technology and the other way, it is compassi