19th. 19th news. Org is the upside. A first time guest, welcome to washington journal. Guest thank you so much for having me. I am so happy to be here. Host thank you for watching. We look forward to hearing about your new organization. Tell us about the 19th. How did it get started . What is the mission . Just the 19th began before the iowa caucuses. The idea was born about four years ago right after the 2016 elections. Had anraham shaw election where we saw in juice issues of gender on full display. Nomination and yet the narrative around gender was with that election were the same as they have been for so many cycles. Questions around electability, likability. Four years later, we started to see, even with six women and a certain number of women running for president , the same narratives and tropes again. Factoring their way into the election cycle. Emily felt an urgent need to create a newsroom where women were discussed, not just as a special Interest Group but as the majority of the electorate and as a growing number of the folks who are represented in our government. So, she and our publisher, amanda, launched on trying to make this vision well real. A year later, here we are. Host how are you folks funded and how many people are working with you . Guest in the midst of a pandemic, our newsroom has grown so much since january. We officially launched one week ago today. With a staff of nearly two dozen. We have a mix of funders. Whoave private donors support us. We are a nonprofit business model. Donate have members who as little as 19, who are very much a part of our support. We also have corporate sponsorship. Put the phone numbers on the bottom of the screen for our guest and we look forward to hearing from you. Tell us a little bit about your background. Where were you and what were you doing before the 19th . Guest actually, i have been in journalism. For a couple of decades. At a training program, actually. With the Tribune Company of the los angeles times. I was a minority training fellow. That was when i began to write about issues of race. I did that as an intern at a small black paper in atlanta, which is my hometown, the atlanta daily world. For much of my career, i have been focused on issues of race. An area ofing interest i have had for the entire time i have been a journalist. In atlanta, a lot of that was reflecting on the legacy of the civil rights movement. The gains of that era. I focus on the lack electorate and historically black colleges, the professional black middle class. And then i started covering politics in 2008 with the historic election of barack obama. I covered the georgia legislature, the Virginia Legislature for the washington post. I came to philadelphia about five years ago, which is my new adopted hometown which i love so much. Hello to everybody out there who islls philadelphia home or from philadelphia. Ira about urban affairs in philadelphia as well and then i wrote about urban affairs in philadelphia as well and then got the job i wanted. I became a National Writer on race in america. A huge platform, tremendously humbling. The covered everything from emerging black lives Matter Movement to, you know, the socalled Postracial America to the hyper racial moment in this country i think we now find ourselves. I did that until january, which i like to tell people is my new dream job. I get to lean fully into my experience as a black woman and bring that to the journalism are i am doing, where we building the culture that frankly a lot of us wish we had had a lot earlier in our careers. Host our guest is editor at large of the 19th. Errin haines, we noticed 19 news. Org, the number 19 has an actually askedrisk. What is the purpose of that . Guest as we prepare to celebrate the centennial of woman suffrage, which is august 18, we are very excited about that anniversary. We have a newsroom that his named for the 19th amendment, which ratified suffrage for some women but not all women. The asterisk is an acknowledgment of the black women who were frankly excluded from full access and had to fight trice twice as hard for their rights. Before we get to calls for theguest at the 19th, outsized importance of joe bidens Vice President ial pick, appease here says there is a feeling that this woman has to be the woman that gets it across the finish line. Otherwise, the story is that a woman could not get it done again. Tell us why you wrote this. Went into 2020we feeling like this was going to be the most consequential election that we have ever covered. And yet that has taken on a greater sense of urgency with , coronavirus and racism. The vice presidency is a role we have seen expanding in recent cycles, and given the challenges the country faces, feels like a role that is going to be even more important than it usually is. People paying more attention, and not just those of us in the media class. Certainly a lot of voters i talked to, especially women that i talked to, as a became apparent that none of the six women running for president were going to be nominee, they set their sights on a number two thought and wanting a woman to be a nominee. Joe biden said he would put a woman on the ticket as his running mate which is fueled so much of the speculation we have seen over the past few months. He is expected to make a decision. That could happen as soon as this week. A decision and an announcement are not necessarily happening at the same time. Two things are happening this year. Joe biden is running for president of the third time. For the third time, it will be a as vice the ticket president. As much as we make of the fact that there has never been a woman president , there has never been a woman Vice President either. There has never been a woman of color nominated for Vice President. This is a really consequential moment that prevented presents both the opportunity to make history and defeat President Trump, which is a lot of what a lot of democratic voters, especially women were telling me on the campaign trail. Host a look at the electorate, forall 54 of women voted Hillary Clinton, 41 for donald trump. White women with a college degree, 51 clinton, 44 trump. White women with no college degree, 34 percent for clinton. 61 for trump. Black women with a college degree, 92 for clinton, and black women with no college degree, 95 for clinton. Clearly black females voting largely for Hillary Clinton. Take us to 2020. Do you see those numbers changing much during the cycle . Guest i think it is an open question for white women. I will tell you the black women i have spoken to on the campaign trail, particularly in South Carolina and other Southern States are absolutely galvanized with the idea that they want donald trump out of office. Just said, did not support him in 2016 and do not plan to support him in any large numbers in 2020. I think that we can expect to see that. This is what black women do in elections. They turn out in huge numbers. They are the Democratic Partys most loyal and consistent voters. They are the ones who, frankly, were responsible for joe biden becoming the presumptive nominee weeks ahead of schedule. Showing up in record numbers in some of these primaries that were happening in the midst of a pandemic. We at the 19th news are reporting on white women, especially the conservative women who support President Trump in 2020, to see if they plan on reupping that support in 2020. We are hearing from some that they are still committed to this president. Despite some of the frederick around rhetoric around race and some of the other issues that have been divisive, they are still with him. They believe the economy will maybe turn around as he says in the midst of the pandemic and are trying to kind of wrestle with a lot of what they have seen over the past four years. President trump came into office in 2016, a lot of people were taking a waitandsee approach. It that they have seen that is something of concern to some white women voters, especially suburban women voters. I think particularly amid this National Reckoning on race where i think a lot of americans, particularly white americans are asking themselves who and what it means to be a citizen right now in this country. Host first call for our guest, errin haines at the 19th. We have calvin from clearfield, pennsylvania. Democratic caller. Good morning, calvin. Caller good morning. Guest hi, calvin. Caller i have a question for you. People think joe biden, as far as running for buys preston, Vice President , how many will he put on Vice President for the democrat at baller for the november election . Women for Vice President , would he take maybe three to four women or will it be five . Be about hime odds picking more than three women for Vice President on the democratic ballot for the election . If im hearing youre right, i think youre asking about the Vice President , who he is going to pick to be his Vice President. Which is, again, a decision that we could get as soon as this week. The Democratic NationalConvention Starts next week. The expectation was that there will be a Vice President ial nominee by then. It is still, it seems to be up in the air in terms of who that woman will be. There are several women of color, several black women on that list. And the core has gotten louder, which is why i mentioned for a black woman to be on the ticket with joe biden, the Party Feeling diversity is important, especially during the National Reckoning on race. But also because coronavirus is disproportionately affecting communities of color. In thinking about somebody who would be ready to govern on day one, a lot of people are telling me that they believe a black ofan, both because experience and because of the impeccable resumes of so many would be this list, the best thing joe biden could do, not just from a governing standpoint but also to galvanize black women in the way that he would need to defeat President Trump in november. Host is there a stand out among those women in your view . I should have asked, does the 19th have an editorial . I dont editorialize. We dont do that. We prefer to appeal to our membership with the facts. Host got it. Lets hear from janice omma democratic caller, good morning. Janice, democratic caller. Good morning. 60 nine euros black woman. This is what trump wants. Theou put a black woman on ballot with joe biden, we are going to lose. We need someone who is qualified. Elizabeth warren is qualified to take on the task if anything happens to biden. Think about it. People,h warren has the ople tornie sanders pe help joe biden. We need a person that is qualified. A woman, yes. Warren fitsrman that ticket. I see the black women up there but they are not as qualified as Elizabeth Warren. Me ask you, what would Elizabeth Warren bring to the ticket that Kamala Harris would not or susan rice would not . Perhaps val demings or karen bass, some of the names of africanamerican women out there, what can you see particularly different about her and them . Caller are you asking me . Host yes. Caller this is what i am seeing. Deep in our heart, Elizabeth Warren is a fighter. She is a fighter for all races. She is a fighter for the underdog. She has been there. Those women that you just named, he just named, i love them all but they are not qualified. We need someone on that ticket that is going to bring all races together. She is the one qualified. Host thank you for calling. Errin haines, strong for Lisbeth Warren. Guest listen, paul. Let me tell you. Janice is something articulate and something i have heard from black women voters. Polling has indicated that while there is not necessarily consensus around which black woman, for those who say they want a black woman, the range varies as far as which black woman they would want. In terms of the white woman that black women voters would become to what with, resoundingly that woman is Lisbeth Warren. On the campaign trail, i heard over and over again from black women voters who were open to a Lisbeth Warren from a heart Elizabeth Warren from a heart standpoint as opposed to a head standpoint. They felt like joe biden was in the best position to defeat donald trump but Elizabeth Warren had ideas that resonated with them. They hurt her on the campaign trail, talking about systemic heard her on the campaign trail, talking about systemic racism. So, this is somebody who, despite being a white woman, they feel like she is somebody who would use her privilege to govern on behalf of black women. Host errin haines, i meant to do what do you make or what you think is next following the s signing of the executive orders dealing with covid19 relief. . What do you think is next . Caller i will look for how guest i will look for how this pandemic continues to affect people of color. We saw racial and gender disparities laid bare, even from the beginning of this pandemic, both from a Public Health standpoint and an economic standpoint. I think the same is true as the country is beginning to reopen, in terms of who can go back to school. Who can go back to work and who is unemployed. Whois housing insecure and is food insecure. I think that we do have to keep all of those things on the radar. What i am hearing from voters is that the pandemic is absolutely political. Whichf the ways in peoples elected officials from the federal government down are responding to this pandemic is going to have an impact on the ballot box, i believe. Host lets hear from barbara in michigan, on the republican line. Guest hey, barbara. Caller hi. I almost want to vote democratic. My first statement is the coronavirus information changes day by day because of the science. Day, uponnge every discovery. There was someone who called and said i am a black woman and i cant own a business and i cant do this. I mean, you look pretty profitable to me. You have 2000 workers from the. Hole Coronavirus Campaign i do agree with janice. Actually k they it actually has to be a black woman. That is the racist thing i have ever seen black people do. Want to gete dont the 400, how many black women do you think will not ask for it . Nd take it or black or white men or white women that wont take the money and apply for it . They know the system. They know how to work it. I saw you smile. Matter . , black lives Television Black , not antifag stores , just a black woman Looting Stores for purses . Tit probably wont even fit them. Barbara, calling there. Errin haines, she left a lot on the table to respond to. Why dont you go ahead . Guest what i would first say is to remind people that the unrest you have seen in cities across the country has been overwhelmingly peaceful as people are trying to raise awareness about the very real issues of Racial Disparity and policing in communities of color. That have been put back on the radar, even in the midst of the pandemic, around the death of george floyd, Breonna Taylor and ahmaud arbery. There lootings and destruction of property . Yes, there was some of that. Overwhelmingly, in cities across this country, we have seen the largest peaceful protest in the history of america and sustained over this summer, as people are withy just kind of dealing the open scar that has been new in the midst of this pandemic. That is the first thing i would say. Thinkly, you know, i um, folks folks who, who are wondering why a black woman on the Vice President ial , certainly the people ive talked to on the Democratic Party have been for quite some time. What they say to me is that they have long been the architects of progress in this country, using their vote to move the country forward, not just for themselves or their community or their race but for everyone. And that they often dont get the same return on their investment, if you will. So, really, joe biden choosing a black woman as his running mate would be a signal that he recognizes the contribution of black women and that he values not just their output but their input. Host errin haines, let me show missouri cori bush in on the night of her victory, discussing the view of change needed in washington, d. C. Incumbented longtime lacy clay. Here is a look. As we face down unprecedented crises from covid19 to Police Brutality to auto patrol Climate Change and we have decided how to move forward. Well, tonight, Missouri First has decided that its incremental approach is not going to work any longer. We decided that we were not going to wait any longer for change that is not actually coming. So, we decided that we the people have the answers and we would lead from the front lines. So i say thank you for standing with me. Host errin haines, first tell us more about cori bush. We know she is an activist. Tell us more about her as she springs onto the scene and what is the significance of her victory in missouri . Sig. Gives. A few cori bush is a pastor and a nurse who was an activist in 2014 in ferguson and has continued that activism work and which,tory on tuesday, given the way the lines are then, makes her representative from missouri is the latest victory for the black lives