Playbook. The Campaign Senior digital advisor also discusses the decision to film and share the moment where mr. Biden called senator harris to be his running mate. From earlier today, this is about 40 minutes. Morning and welcome. Im anna palmer, coauthor of the politico playbook. Thank you for tuning in to politicos virtual programming during the reimagined political conventions as we come down to election day. This week has been all about the Democratic National convention and joe bidens campaign for president. You can follow the conversation all week on social media. In a moment, we will be talking to the Senior Advisor for the Biden Campaign, but todays playbook will include a new segment on swing state maps. Todays edition is about wisconsin and why it is one of the states that is likely to shape the electoral outcomes in just 75 days. All right, without further ado, lets get started. Welcome, simone sanders. Thank you. Great to be here. Great to see you all. You are coming off a pretty big night. Lets look a little forward. What does joe biden need to do tonight in your estimation . Vice President Biden tonight this is his opportunity to you all have heard me say this before speak directly to the American People about his vision. This is going to be very forwardlooking. This is going to be about joe bidens plan for america, to really speak to this moment we are in but also how we can go forward. Weve heard, what we have continued to hear, the one take away seemingly everybody has is that they have gotten the sense that joe biden is a decent guy, a nice guy, honest guy. Really digging into s character. Iden is that a correct interpretation . I would say yes. I mean, im glad you got the point. We did our job and the campaign did our job. The reality is this joe biden are the polarris opposites of donald trump and mike pence. Starting on our very first night, we the people donald trump is always making everything about him. We started our convention off talking about the people and then went into talking about how leadership matters. Yes, being a good person matters , but also, understanding the stakes, knowing how to work with your allies. Last night, we talked about a more perfect union, and tonight, the promise of america im very excited for folks to see it, so, yes, this is quintessential joe biden, and we are glad that came through throughout the course of this week, but this is also about the American People. Him, and iust about think that came through as well. Our colleagues at the Trump Campaign is going up with a Digital Ad Campaign attacking hunter biden for his business andings with china resurfacing past allegations. This is not the first time the campaign has tried to go after hunter. How do you plan to talk about this or refute this or make sure this is not something that dogs the campaign for the next 75 days . Were going to do what we did when we first came up. We are going to call out the lie, reassert vice President Bidens position, which is in a Biden Administration, his children will not have offices in the west wing. They will not serve as administration officials. They will uphold a Biden Administration will uphold the policies that the obamaBiden Administration upheld as it relates to really ensuring we are not crossing lines i think the Trump Campaign is reupping his attacks because they have yet to find anything that sticks. Crane did not stec. Calling that vice President Biden was corrupted not stec. And that he went all the way there did not stick so they did not find an attack that has been able to penetrate, and burst the bubble. So i cannot speak to why the Truck Campaign is recycling failed attacks. When i can say is we are going to be ready to call out these lies and refute them. The American People are watching. They know. To follow up on that. Are working with the technology we have, i do not mean to interrupt. Let me ask you about this. As an observer it does not seem to me, theres no way to stop the president from saying things. I do not get the sense that he is going to, i do not get the sense he is going to stop. You dont think you can put those things to rest, it sounds like you just have to call them out for the story. Ed is despicable. And it is also up to the news media. To understand that when President Trump and the chum campaign are saying about vice President Biden and his son are nothing but fallacious lies. And they should be called out as such. It is that Conspiracy Theory cooked up i really giuliani. And frankly it is the basis of something they got the president impeached. So lets be clear. The new cycle move so quickly we seem to forget. Donald trump stood on the white house lawn and invited foreign interference into the selection. Why . Because he only cares about himself. He has only interested in moving in a way that would benefit him personally or himself and his campaign politically. It is unfortunate. Today theo happy that American People are going to get to see a real president. There are going to be able to see the potential and for the next 75 days we are going to continue speak directly to the American People about vice President Biden and senator Kamala Harris is vision for them about how we are addressing these three crises that exist in america, the Public Health crisis, the economic crisis, and the crisis of Racial Justice and the quest for racial equity. We wrote earlier this week it like days of your where republicans and joe biden would get together. You worked for bernie sanders. Nearly everyone we speak to suggest it will be impossible to work with republicans while trying to keep progressives in the fold. What is your sense in terms of actually being able to do that, despite partisan passions . Is it a talking point that people want . Or actually when you get to washington you think is going to be ever lousy . Look, is going to be a reality . If anybody can do it, joe biden can. When we rolled out our build back better plan as it relates to clean energy and infrastructure. To know what happened . That plan was lauded from climate activists and also the plan was lauded by unions. And folks in labor. Why . Because the unions note that vice President Biden plans for the economy, the Clean Energy Economy and infrastructure, will create good union paying jobs in america. Do you know i the wanted this plan . Ause they know climate vice President Bidens plan for Clean Energy Economy and infrastructure will address the existential crisis that is Climate Change in america. Only joe biden can bring those to together. Yes a Proven Ability to do that. The reality is you have to be able to work across the aisle if you would like to govern. I think the American People know that. Republicans were featured in our convention this week. Because it is a convention across america. Vice President Biden is running for president. Not just to be the president of democrats are those who vote for them. But when he is elected he will be the president of everyone and address these issues. The crises are not just affecting democrats in america. These are crises that are affecting all of us as americans. It is going to take all of us to attack, overcome them and build back better. So you have the captive attention of millions of americans right now from this convention week. I am curious how you use surrogates over the next 73 days after the convention is over . People like Hillary Clinton, michelle obama. What should we expect to see when it comes to surrogates . How do you deploy them with effect during a pandemic . Well, look, we have had a very robust surrogate operation since the onset of this pandemic, since the since we all have been relegated to our home since march of 2020. I would say our Campaign Strategy is really, even though we are virtual, we are still reaching actual voters. So that means we are convening roundtables. And we are doing happy hours. And we are doing collins. In the call ins. And the Vice President , senator roads, is doing virtual trips. Especiallyconvention last night we have been having watch parties every night. There are number watch parties happening this evening. As we announce to this week we will be doing drive ends. All of this drive ins. All of this as a launchpad for the next 72 days. We are not new to deploying surrogates. We are not new to engaging folks in this Virtual Campaign world. We are going to continue that up and through election day. Because that is what is going to take. We are trying to earn every vote in america. So we are attacking this with meticulous surgical precision. State by state, district by district. Ensuring we are meeting people and reaching them where they are. You illustrated and led into this next question well. This is a different campaign, right . Youre not seeing jill biden work the lines. Or, harris have to interact on a daily breasted daily basis with the press corps. Every day those candidates are giving a backandforth with the press. I know we speak with them, our colleagues. There is some frustration that biden and harris have only spoken with a few outlets, like elle, abc. When you expect them to take more questions from the press . Does the robust backandforth . We are no stranger to engaging with the press. Vice President Biden and senator harris are sitting down with abc for the first point interview and that will air on sunday. And yes you can expect to see them taking additional questions. Look, it is no surprise to folks and i know a lot of reporters particularly on our beef of heard me say this before our beat have heard me say this before. We have prioritized local press on this campaign, no say to the national media, but that has been a focus for us. So every time the Vice President or senator harris will travel, virtual travel into a state, when dr. Bright is doing events, events, biden doing we make sure we are talking to local press, print, television and radio. President estion, trump obviously regularly talk to the press and takes questions that is their strategy, and dusted at rallies and things ralliest, does it at and is making a point of going across the country this week. Something tim kaine told us he wishes he had spent more time and im not quoting him but generally he wishes he had spent more time doing joint event with Hillary Clinton in 2016. Could you forecast for us what the rest of the campaign will look like from alive event perspective . Well, look, we are going to be knebel, obviously. Knebel going to be nimble. This event would be in person. We would be on stage in milwaukee. Due to covid19, we are doing the event virtually. We are going to listen to the scientists. We are going to have experts lead. Youre going to see a lot of joe biden and, harris of the next 75 days. We are going to leave it all in the field. We are not taking anything for granted here. We look forward to tonight and the convention. I know the republicans have their week next week. And before you know it we will have a debate. Vice President Biden will be there. Donald trump has yet to commit to all three debates. Will look forward to seeing folks on the debate stage. Thank you, simon, for being with us on a busy day. Playbook is going to continue. Lets kick it over to our national put a coke corresponded to take us through another edition, todays focus on the great state of wisconsin. Good morning. Im the senior politics editor at politico. The map is changed quite a bit thanks to the architecture of trumps 2016 victory and we are here to talk about one key state today. Im joined by my colleague, National Political correspondent, natosha, to explore the new swing state map that will shape the outcome. Throughout the conventions we will look at six states at the heart of the electoral map. Donald trump has reshaped today we focus on wisconsin. Im based in the chicago area, over the border. I have been covering the 2020 race as well as iowa and wisconsin over the last couple of years. Recently in april i was in milwaukee reporting on a surreal primary election during one of the worst weeks of the covid pandemic. Before we dive into wisconsin, politicos video journalist Eugene Daniels is providing us dynamics a video into the dynamics at play. Theres a big call to make, donald trump has won the state of wisconsin. This is a state Hillary Clinton hasnt visited since the democratic convention. Wisconsin in 2016 was a crystallizing moment that things have gone south. A super slim margin of 22,000 votes. The first republican to win the state in 30 years, sending adult a jolt that brought to life activist groups that realized they had become complacent that year, something the party and group say they are not doing again. When i spoke to swing left precovid he said voters were knocking on doors earlier than usual to prevent. Volunteers working together and the Democratic Party infrastructure are building a campaign. Whoever wins this 20 person contest will be able to come in and inherit immobilized, organized, motivated, highly driven group of volunteers. Wisconsin used to be a power center of the republican party. Things. Taken big ings. Governor scott walker was an upandcoming party later, gone. Paul ryan was speaker of the house, gone. I had given everything i had. Walker luster election. Walker lost reelection. Earlier a state Supreme Court justice lost his seat by 1000 votes. Votes. By 100,000 belt swingrust states, wisconsin is the toughest battle. First, demographics. Compared to pennsylvania michigan, wisconsin has more white people, and a 2018, white voters without a College Degree and wisconsin, hit 55 . 10 points higher than the other two. Those groups largely makeup trump space. Intro in 2018, democrats did when all statewide races by very narrow margins, including the governor coyle Gubernatorial Race by one point. In contrast democrats one governorships by double digits in michigan and pennsylvania. This gives less room for error. One key area for both parties will be the suburbs. Waukesha, ozaki, in Washington County wow. This round milwaukee, are generally white and are deemed most republican, there has been a softening a republican support there but not in the same way we have seen in other suburbs around the country. The current wisconsin palaver shows joe biden about six points ahead of donald trump, where alert where Hillary Clinton was in early august 2, 2016. The tosh that you spent time in wisconsin over the past few years on assignment to cover the election and for vacation, and a cheese run. Did not make it to wisconsin 2016, that is widely believed to cost the state in an election that was ultimately decided by less than 23,000 votes. When democrats talk about 2016 the wisconsin loss often seems like a bitterest pill swallowed. That is right, charlie. If there is one state, theres no way to sugarcoat it. Democrats should have been shoring up their base in the midwest. But there were playing in places like arizona try to run up the score. Since then National Democrats parked themselves in wisconsin and never left. So far it is paying off. We have seen democrats, gains of midterms. They ended scott walkers longtime rain in wisconsin. We saw in april democrats won a fiercely fought state Supreme Court race. And in what democrats see as a positive sign for november, the vote by mail operation is far superior to what republicans were able to pull off in april. The republican suburbs surrounding milwaukee are typically essential to the republican hopes of winning the state, they voted for trump in 2016 but were not wild about him. He seems to be flagging there this year. How much of a problem is that for his chances of winning the state . It is a big problem. It is a really troubling sign for trump. He needs to run up the margins in suburbs around green bay and milwaukee including in the counties of waukesha, ozaukee, and washington, as you know, the wow counties, reservoirs of republican votes. If youre running statewide as republican and wisconsin, you dont get to win the wow counties, you have to dominant dominate them to offset madison and milwaukee. But trends are not looking good in these areas. Republican support has been softening. Independents are pivotal. They have been trending toward joe biden. Heres a surprising stat, you may know it already. Countrynties across the who voted for donald trump in 2016 after twice putting for bark obama. Barack obama. Others counties, 23 were in wisconsin. Only one state, iowa, had more pivot counties. However porton were these two donald trump and what its plaintiffs appeal in these counties . What explains his appeal in these counties . Many of these counties are located in the southwest part of the state. There made up of bluecollar, predominantly white voters, feeling left behind by the economy. Onlytwice voted for obama, to swing back