Transcripts For CSPAN2 Key Capitol Hill Hearings 20240622 :

Transcripts For CSPAN2 Key Capitol Hill Hearings 20240622

I very much welcome the tone of the foreign secretarys remarks. This now opens the way for iran to play a constructive role in regional shares and noting that we have a profound common interest in defeating dinesh and the reactions from reality. Will we do not use the opportunity to employ the full british diplomacy to force intelligent, effect incorporation between riyadh and tehran towards a common strategy to defeat daish appeared he is quite right it is to achieve a measure reconciliation between saudi arabia and constructive engagement between those two important regional powers in addressing many challenges facing the region. That will not happen overnight. Hes absolutely right the measured tone of the response we heard from saudi arabia in stark contrast to the last measured response was heard from elsewhere in the region and is promising and i spoke last night we will maintain our engagement doing two things. Encouraging allies in the arab countries around the goals to be willing to engage with iran over time in a sensible and measured way, but also providing them the reassurance they need about their security to allow them to take a little more risk in trying to realize the opportunities the agreement presents. May i congratulate the foreign secretary and all others involved on this historic agreement on what has taken an enormous amount of time effort and detail and i think it is appropriate to congratulate barack obama this agreement that george yet they have many aspects which are objectionable and we look for improvements in the treatment on civil rights and other ways and i ran. I ran as a player and its important indeed. Will the foreign secretary made clear to the government of israel which unlike iran is not a signatory to the nonproliferation treaty and which has hundreds of Nuclear Warheads and missiles that any attempt by an to deal with communicate the agreement will not be tolerated. Mr. Speaker, i am honorable to good gentlemans remarks in in fact, he took the words out of my mouth. I was trying to explain why george was better than world war but i found it difficult to convey across the language barrier. Of course what he said is a rate. Iran has been subject to 35 years of isolation. Its a choice in our thoughts and getting iran engaged in the affairs of the region again will be a huge benefit. I am going tonight to israel and will have a chance to convey our message directly to Prime Minister not yahoo benjamin netanyahu. Israel will seek to use its influence in the u. S. Congress to abstract the progress of the deal. I am confident the action will not succeed. Im also confident israel has shown time and again that it can be pragmatic and once it has exhausted the avenue of opportunity that it will seek to engage in a sensible pragmatic way to deal with the new reality on the ground in the middle east. Dr. Liam fox. Mr. Speaker, my right honorable friend is right that if iran gives up Nuclear Ambitions is a huge move forward and reasonable security. But if we have confidence in verification that must be unfettered and unrestricted. Can my right honorable friend guarantee to the house iran could be forced to grant access to any site designated in how quickly would iran be forced to do so. While his right there is positive implications for the agreement, theres also potential negative implications. If iran had sanctions lifted what assurances are being sought that this will not be used to fund proxy since hamas and has a lot provide greater and stability to the region. My right honorable friend makes a series of good points and he is right the access for verification is the crucial underpinning of the agreement. We havent been able to secure arrangements and we wouldnt been able to make the deal. It wouldve been too too much risk attached to it. I describe in response earlier the arrangements for identification for inspection and reference of any iranian and actions to the commission. We are confident those arrangements will work. It will mean typically around a period of 21 days between initial demand and mandated access. If they continue to deny access that the commission has mandated should be access, though it be a breach of the agreement subject to snap back. My friend asked me about irans assets. Ultimately it will be to the unfreezing of 150 billion in the outset outside of the country. It will be a progressive process. What will happen with the money how can we be sure it wont be used to process interference in the region. But cant be absolutely sure. First of all iran has a huge deficit of Infrastructure Investment in this country, energy, exporting infrastructure and needs a new fleet of civilian aircraft. Theyre a huge demand for the use of the assets and the reformers in iran understand very well the deal has to deliver real benefits to ordinary people as they go about investing in nospace. The second point is that very little money available and under the full burden of International Sanctions, the Islamic Revolution command has made a pretty effect your job in syria lebanon and elsewhere. It is not as this the body was itching to do things im unable to do them. It has been able to be effective on a shoestring and we dont think the release will make a material difference. I point out to the house that its not an honorable gentleman. He is a right honorable gentleman. He is quite important to get these things right. Be aware that president rouhani [inaudible] in his doctoral thesis he wrote this verifies no loss in this land are immutable and that is true and its also true of relationships between nations. Not to listen to the prophets of doom by to see this welcome agreement as they start to a process of engagement that will bring good people of the remarkable country back into the community of nations. I have to confess that i was not aware the president was a graduate of Glasgow University but im delighted to hear it. Lets say a wholly new spin on the meeting but then he has relied on a consecutive english translation. He clearly does understand what we say. Or maybe not. I totally agree with the honorable gentleman. There is a huge opportunity. It is in our interest in the regions interest that we grasp it and ensure we do that. Dr. Julian lewis, most of the contributors so far have welcomed this development. Will the foreign secretary bear in mind the world also breathes a sigh of relief in 1972 with the signing of biological Weapons Convention only to discover after 1989 russia has been cheating on the massive than industrial scale. There must always hope for the best. I hope youll bear in mind who will also be prepared for the worst. The Cautionary Statement and the difference in the case with rashes cheating in the license agreement was that we did have the good Intrusive Inspections and access we will have in relation to iran. It is right while they go forward with optimism as the others have suggested, we should also be cautious. We should recognize a very big deficit of mistrust to be overcome. We need the access and inspection regimes. We need to pursue cautious and not least if we cant reassure partners in the region that we are approaching this cautiously and sensibly we will lose them and not be able to encourage them to engage in the way we want to see. That history will decide whether this was an historic agreement or not. It may be a bit premature at this stage. The negotiations took longer to reach than the safeguards stated 10 years to get to this point. Can i return to the point about using sanctions lifted to support these proxies . I do think he needs to reassure the house a little bit more to the lifting of sanctions will meet at iran becomes our proxy. Mr. Speaker, first of, first of all she is obviously right. She corrects for an era which im sure many of us have made describing something this historic premature basis. She talks about a 10 year time scale. The significance here is many of the measures taken by have an effect which lasts much longer than 10 years. Frankly, the challenge now is to change the mindset in iran that the uranium before the iranian leadership. We have a tad15 year period starting from now when we need to get it enshrined in the iranian mentality that it is better for iran, that iran will have more influence, more prosperity more success working with the International Community can International Community and working in isolation. That is why it is important we engage with them and i look forward to doing that. I right honorable friend will forgive me if i press him on one aspect of the agreement. He talks about drawing a line. We dont actually have a line that. We have in the words of the agreement a roadblock will drive out of line. Given irans past that committees of clandestine site and obfuscation, could you just a little bit about how we will know exactly what the position is when verification takes place but now its against a position that exists. Yes mr. Speaker. The International Atomic Energy Authority who has responsibility for this has agreed that iran is a roadmap that affect entities need to be carried out so allowed to publish its final report. We dont know how long that will take care of probably six months also. Various conditionality here until they establish the sanctions will not be listed. They will have the ability to gain technical access whether they need to do so to have discussions with iranian experts. It is completely independent. They are confident the measures they put in place that iran has agreed to as part of the deal are adequate to allow them to do their job complete their mission. Mr. Speaker, the foreign secretary talked about the issue of inspections on this after 20 or more days for access to begin causing concern. How confident is the foreign secretary the citizens of the country can be assured in the period where theres arbitration and discussions taking place that iran will be able to cover up any activity . Mr. Speaker, these negotiations have gone on a long time and on each and every one of these issues weve had lengthy detailed technical discussions. This is one of the issues have been particularly focused on. Ive sought detailed reassurance from our u. S. Allies that the assets and resources they have would allow them to be confident maintaining eyes on the situation in the time access was demanded until the time access is granted. After many hours of discussion on this it will be possible for us to retain a high degree of confidence that the question has not been tampered with or to know exactly how it has been tampered with. In the case of Radioactive Material removing things is not so easy. The radioactive footprints will be present and that is very, very extensive remediation cleaning were to take place. On present trends it would take a further hour and a half to accommodate interested colleagues. The present trend needs to be backed. Lets look to a new member two latest by example. My late father wrote extensively 1960s on Nuclear Weapons was to be pursued just had Nuclear Weapons. Geraniums are genuine when they say they are not seeking to develop Nuclear Weapons. Mr. Speaker, president rouhani the Supreme Leader will make the weapons he has. There will be some within the iranian power structure including some as the military structure im sure was still after the idea of Nuclear Weapons at some point in the future. Jerry corbin. Im pleased the agreement has been reached. A huge step forward. As a result, does the foreign secretary think there is a possibility of holding the middle east weapons of mass destruction conference in the last treaty review supported by all parties including iran and this is surely a great opportunity to push forward to and proliferation in the whole region. The honorable gentleman has been a supporter of the approach for a long time. The government supported the u. K. Has been advocating this conference and moving forward on this agenda. Removing the arabian issue i dont think it tells was of the problems we have in bringing this to a conclusion. We are continuing to press forward and will continue to do so. Thank you, mr. Speaker. It is clearly a diplomatic trial for the partners who have come to the conclusion. We will need to make sure in the long term project that it will be essential for greater contacts between this country and i ran across an area that is currently available. But he also agreed its essential the partners to the deal are firmly brought in behind the efforts that normalize relationships with iran. Contacts with iran will be critical now. The more iranians travel abroad the more foreigners travel to iran, the better we will understand each other. Louise, all men. Iran supports gaza and elsewhere in promoting terrorism. What impact will the agreement have on the situation . In an ideal world. Iran becomes more engaged in the International Community and the affairs of the region. We will be able to engineer a situation where irans average can be a force for good. We are not there yet and we are not there automatically. There is an opportunity to engage with iran on wider issues which there hasnt been for the nuclear file has been holding over it. Misters or reoffend president or reoffend president for or reoffend president lujan in our moderate but hardliners remain the iranian government. Secretary talks about the region and they are interfering massively. Have they spoken to the native ally turkey and what is their reaction to the deal . I havent spoken to my turkish counterpart since we did the deal, but clearly ive met with him on many occasions over the last few months. Turkey is also an important player in the region. Saudi arabia, iran turkey israel has to be engaged if we are going to have a stable region which has any chance of breaking out the cycle of despair weve seen the last 40 years or so. Doesnt say a lot about in this place of hours that the government has the Prime Minister himself has been dealing with the matter. In the current regime and more than an hour ago the same tory government declared war on the British Trade union. Be careful what you wish for. Mr. Speaker, the honorable gentleman has disappointed me. Here on cspan2 on cspan two whittle that the british house of commons as members move onto other business. Youve been watching the Prime Ministers question time 7 00 a. M. Eastern when parliament is in session. If you asked was a bright shining star in american politics a lot of people katharine graham, arthurs passenger was one of those people who worked in the white house in his early 20s. And was indicted for stuffing the ballot box. The incredible promise planned out. It is a unique situation. He rebuilt the original foundation. What we have to stay home that is essentially a fivepart federal style home with italian details, architectural, et cetera and an added layer of aesthetic details and my daughter and great granddaughter and home. After yesterdays announcement of an agreement with iran over their Nuclear Program the House Foreign Affairs and he held a hearing on the deal. Former senator Joe Lieberman and cia director Michael Hayden talked about what is in the agreement and chances of being blocked by congress. This part of the hearing is two hours. This hearing will come to order. Today the committee continues to examine the Obama Administration Nuclear Diplomacy with iran. We think our witnesses for joining us this morning. The administration has just a hugely consequential agreement in testimony before this committee, secretary kerry told us these negotiations will be used to dismantle irans Nuclear Program. That was the goal. Instead, this agreement allows iran to engage in enrichment capacity with research and development and gain an investor Advice Program once the provisions of the agreement began to expire in as little as 10 years. The president told us iran does not need an underground facility like four to two have a peaceful Nuclear Program if the military complex will stay open. The program would have to be addressed as part of a final agreement they failed to mention addressing the Program Means taking restrictions off talking here about the icbm program iran has. Taking those off in eight years. The secretary of defense carter testified last week quote, the reason we want to stop iran from having an icbm program is that the eyes stands for intercontinental, which means having the capability of flying from iran to the United States. As we know countries build to deliver weapons and recently in the negotiation this is what russia in iran push for. The ability to transfer this technology. This is what russia would like to do. Transfer this technology to the regime. At the same hearing our top military official gave his best military ties. Quote, under no circumstances should be relieved the pressure on iran when it comes to the arms embargo. That comes off in just five years. On the critical issue of inspections a few months ago secretary of energy moniz said we expect anywhere anytime access, but anywhere anytime as we can to something called managed access. Manage access more accurately should be called manipulated accesses any process with russia, china and iran off the table will be treated exactly that way. It will be managed. It would be manipulated. Inspection regime would be manipulated by those with something to hide in the past experience with iran that is cheated every agreement so far. We might feel better if the United States was able to permanently constrained irans program but the key restriction, the ability to enrich high levels begins to expire in as little as 10 years. As 10 years, most americans take three times longer to pay off mortgage. 10 years from now. Once the restrictions e

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