Transcripts For CSPAN2 Key Capitol Hill Hearings 20240622 :

CSPAN2 Key Capitol Hill Hearings June 22, 2024

Paul and pope benedict. Is it is the thoughtful piece and it is hard to do wrap their minds around the document but it hits of the scenes to talk about the relationship between god and nature and other earth. With the need for a common plan. If we lost the moral compass. And what is important to bring the panel together is that property and Climate Change are two different games end of that you may cover in other parts of rural life but the Sustainable Development goal to do with poverty and education and energy and the ocean but the pope sees this relationship between ourselves and in nature as one. So add as you think of a the pope to lay this out in a new way. But if you look at how we treat the people were the endangered species that are traffic it comes from the same place. Although growing up in german catholic family is like i did with a sense of guilt but i really do take it was helpful because with all due respect i felt when it came out the path for everyone to hang their issue that there is only a small sliver and there is an opportunity to take a much larger lessons. But the pope does have an entire section to having an event and it is part of the u. S. Domestic response to a large tree the meeting happening at the end of the year as a Climate Summit in paris that comes to an International Agreement they will be gathering at the end of the years of if they look at the pope visit with the large announcement with that large seven. To look at the Large International issues at the end of the your they will say this year was a to pinpoint so did they link the agenda of with poverty Climate Change and finance to put all the pieces together to create change. Second did the major country is late last year start to take action on Climate Change . And third, i agree the influence will be on the broader public purpose of my own family is thinking about taking a road trip from florida because this could be their only time to see the pope did United States with the excitement in the Catholic Community cannot even conveyed just never excited they are by this visit. But to be fortunate enough to look for Vice President gore when you look at capitol hill that members feel compelled to louis day with those private sentiments and many of them give privately and to donate their time and go to africa. I actually think beneath the surface you do see movement on some of these issues. I do think a visit a fax their families so what is intriguing to me is to move to the general election is whether or not we do see a softening on the flash point issues because the primary is not always the best time because that is in the issues are sharpened to of both parties claiming to the base and they will start to see the impact of a visit like this. We will open into question is. And a lot of them are interconnected. How important is the popes science background to the development of his ideas . He has degrees i think in chemistry . Actually the vatican has held several conferences on science to help educate the staff. I think he speaks to the importance to have a dialogue with and i think there is a misperception that the Catholic Church is somehow hot style to resign and spreading bed is the updated perception it also talks about the gm of in a space stand interesting way to a talkedabout technology. First of all, i think it is not just this pope said he seems to be interested in the opening seven or eight pages he does walk through the history of the commentary of this space which is particularly interesting. The key is able to speak to use some of the science so with those cards and credit to wasnt just scions but he could speak to their Rio Convention even the policy initiatives pothole that are out there and i thank you will find it very interesting of levels at which they have been understanding of what is going on internationally and domestically. Could you comment about the significance to philadelphia or the broader issues he may focus on . I am happy to speak about it budget would be more from our point of view that the pope with that visit and in general the of conversation about disparity in america, the way we a think about from the poverty standpoint is important to us for a dialogue. We have invested in a program in l. A. That it is a food program called l. A. Kitchen that the idea said neither food nor people should go to waste for the abundance of fresh fruits with a growing amount of food waste in l. A to package said in a nutritious mail one dash wheel for seniors but combined with a jobtraining program for either individuals coming out of the foster care system or released from facilities. As some of you may go, this is a significant issue in the immigration and irina, a federal judge about a week ago ordered the release of all mothers and minor children in detention and waiting for their cases to be heard and to be assigned at a later date. Of the detention particularly of unaccompanied minors is a very large issue and continues to be an issue over the next 30 days i would not be surprised if the pope would address that completely. This is a pope that does not hesitate to answer difficult areas he speaks very frank fleet frankly and forcefully over the European Parliament and in rome. He left rome where the immigrants used to come now they come in different places and he talks directly about the unaccompanied minors and how they crossed the border and how we ought to treat them, etc. , etc. I would not be surprised if he develops a narrative to address the issues but more directly perhaps more than in the other person or pope may have. [inaudible] but you said to follow his visit . I dont pretend to know the inner thoughts so or of which way to the speaker of the minority leader or majority leader but theyre both catholic. And they dont put religion in to their policy positions, but certainly i would say one of the most surprising Political Developments over the last 10 or 15 years that i have witnessed since 1988, is the rapid evolution on gay marriage to the point where politically it is almost not an issue any longer in Congress Know member really wants to do talk about it that much anymore because they see where the public is and it is remarkably hall quickly congress can change positions when they see the public is getting ahead of them. And three above a the thorniest issues congress has been dealing with immigration and Climate Change and poverty, we are discussing them in congress. There is not the impetus yet for members to go out on a limb to talk about these things. Now we have seen congress get very close. They may even vote in one chamber overwhelmingly but then the moment gets away. There is so many variables that it is interesting to see you how congress approaches the policy statements and what they say after word. Hello. This is not related to any of the issues but i am wondering since he is coming to the United States from cuba to play a significant role in december with a policy change towards cuba, with all the different bills going around in congress to lift the embargo, idiocy the pope talked about that issue even if it is behind closed doors . How is his role with the engage river between the u. S. And cuba play out . Thank you. I think the white house would likely will come his engagement on this issue and absolutely have led not be surprised to see him addressing it in some form or another. I also think there is more to come from the white house on cuba purport of think there doesnt announcing a joint initiatives and on Foreign Policy right now i think iran and cuba are shaping up to be to of the major pieces of the president s legacys so anything from their perspective that will be welcomed by them the. I see the fed is a very good question and a very good point. I think we are focusing too much on exactly what the pope will say or not say or how directly or obliquely but with lecces leading up to a visit and the days after the visit everybody else will try to make statements so even if he does not say the words cuba directly he will Say Something to facilitate in the dialogue of latin america lets not forget after all this is the pope that understands as he became a cardinal he has to live with these issues. And the president will speak about the popes role. So i favor is all on the table directly or indirectly to add to that, to use the analogy and i know if you saw the film interstellar somebody asked me what it was about and i said it was about love. That is what the film was about. And in the end he would say it is about love you could retire read the entire parch but in the end it is about interconnectedness about love and people and nature. That is tough to cover as a reporter you cannot write a story about love but but in washington for us to cover all the political pieces whether cuba or Something Else is from his perspective of love and peace and joy a. I thank you are right as both colleagues but it does go back to the earlier point of a unique moment in time to think about issues and shared accountability in particular lifting people out of poverty so anything we can do to be shared the facts are stair and shared across racial and ethnic lines to provide information on solutions that might work every society does it better. If i may, we do keep coming back to the 80th of dignity the essential dignity of human beings. Is difficult sometimes to convey that in a political system based on conflict. I wonder, as policy people, ed do you have a vice for other policy people or reporters for the layperson, how do you address this is a political event he is a head of state and going to congress and the white house. How do you mix those zero or make that transition from talking about the politics . Unfortunately that alien concept of dignity. I will take this on for a second. This pope is the most fundamental. We know of the Catholic Church thinks it is universal. We all understand that but this particular pope speaks very directly about globalization and he speaks repeatedly about it. For instance he spoke of of globalization and then to contrast with corporations so here is one of the many instances where the pope wants to push against to make them larger from the universal declaration on human rights. With the refugee convention. These are documents so with that declaration of human rights but these are the days they speak very clearly about. He really expects his audiences they are captive for people to engage in force people to engage those big issues with the broader perspective. I whoof degree and not speaking for a policy standpoint but the requirements of a conversation this could be the opportunity for all of us that we need to know our own place in that dialogue. Anywhere riata with the issue of punker across all age groups it allows us to be a smarter participant with the cold boiled dialogue because solving for hunger not just children Older Americans with the interconnected this of the food chain. In the face of the conversation would doesnt work for those that do work like us now program with the Antipoverty Program that has worked overtime to bolster a sense because they highlight for us without adequate accessible nutrition. For people to participate and for Older Americans without proper nutrition of chronic diseases. Of course, an ancient society where there is many more Older Americans but if there is difficulty that could be challenging as well. It is time to broaden our position. Wet, said time there are bigger issues before us we also have the asian in trade deal and of course, of Climate Summit coming up at the end of the year. But at the same time with those the regime with the u. N. Or the world bank, and the rise of the counter institutions. Whether americans how the elections have been and the fact that the indian population so the pope comes in and as as the leader as the embodiment of the change that is happening and we have a struggle right now of parochialism and globalism. Therein is a perception in parts of the United States as a Global Player to have difficulty so i think there is the fundamental under courage and a challenge to the political fray and how are we a you looking at all of these things . With the International Treaty is to have difficulty even getting through congress with a parochial close struggle. He will engage in all of the growth is globally and we are struggling with that as a country to see the backlash and the struggle with the Multicultural Society and to become a minority in this country and he does not have to say that but that in and of itself is say undercurrent Ripple Effect that is very difficult to see right now. You can look through any lands to see how that plays itself out. But others as well. One other point. The timing may be unfortunate and in other words, we will be in the midst of an argument about iran, a budget we will try a to do something. [laughter] so unless he writes about his visit next week with your editors you should have an article every day for the next one never it is entirely possible the other issues that fuel the fires of the arguments of the disagreement in washington may not allow the popes message your on immigration or climate or poverty or all that. They disappear from the headlines on day two or three but in philadelphia they will talk about all of these issues in several places. Is in the york meeting with the immigrant families and in philadelphia he will dedicate a speech on immigration reaching with latino families. You folks will have an opportunity to write about this to have that cushion the effect so people pay more attention. But can the message cut through considering the other issues . I dont know. Also with the timing, the popes fezzes it is the third and fourth week of the month and snap benefits for individual families tend to run out by the end of the third week so that it is interesting. He will be here during the week of each month that is the most challenging for food insecure. Of a bite to ask each one of you to describe, and resources where data could get statistics on your area of expertise . I have literatures sitting there on the table. That is day illegitimates of authoritative issue. This is what others say. We have an amazing very interactive and uptodate website to get everything you need to get on this particular issue some american edition into a down lootings and a cyclical, i would also recommend the climate is sites from the government at climate. Gov. Also i got this in the mail but National Geographic has a cover about the visit that it thought was informative and Climate Nexus has a 10 of resources on Climate Change that i think are quite useful. You can certainly go to a arp. Org and double sides you can search to find quite a few studies with the foundation and it is interesting around poverty for Older Americans as well as the recent steady pace in honker after 50 which is less steady that we founded the you can find links to a number of Research Reports on poverty and hunger more specifically. With rollcall three tend to focus on a conference and more day to day policy and political fights. We have written about some of the issues. Other questions . I wonder will the popes visit help to engage the u. S. Catholic population, which is an enormous population in some of these political issues, and for each of you are there activists for your issues who are actively working to engage that population to try to extend the impact of the visit . Very much so, theres probably around 75 or 76,000,006,000,000 catholics in the United States today. About 52 of the people who are here have been born elsewhere, that includes both legal and u. S. Citizens born outside of the country like myself, they include people who are legally here and our lawful permanent residents, people with green cards, they also include about 28 of 28 of foreignborn population which are here legally. Which is about 43 Million People. More than 50 of them are catholic, so the growth of inmate ration both legal, and illegal immigration leads to the growth of the catholic population in the United States. The question is excellent on so many points, if you dont mind i will say say stay on this one a minute or so. It was such a long time ago of the premier advisor of the bishop on immigration, about 30 years ago, in 1984, or it was also one of many periods of time where were trying to kill each other when it came to immigration. We passed legislation in 1986, and created sanctions, the one thing, two things i remember distinctly about where the Catholic Church in america is today. The most difficulty thing i had to do was persuade senior bishop cardinals, to go to congress and testify or to make any public statements, or to pick up the telephone and talk to powerful people. They didnt want to touch the issue. The issue was too radioactive. So, everything we did at that time, and the second problem was the bureaucracy in the catholic conference. Priests were careful and reluctant to touch delicate issues, contrast that with 30 years later when now you can get any cardinal to speak on the issue, to sign statements, to, to go up on the hill and testify. To go up on the hill and meet with leaders, up on the hill. So this pope is coming to the United States at a point when the Senior Leadership of the church, bishops and above, are extremely active, extremely engaged, and address issues as a matter of course. 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