But we can think through how rational cave in to being. When the court thinks about is affirmative action and legal lit applies a test that you would apply whether jim crow is legal so those same countries determine is that same standard is a little odd in the macy those are very two different ways to think about race but in that context the first articulation focuses of the cement trevelyans showing how to structure that act that mission but set to what extent does the matter to have meaningful representation so people dont feel stigmatized your stereotypes . This is a robust conception focusing largely on first zero First Amendment values. Polite guy now wanted to go to med school what was the effect . Youll have a concurrent by Justice Powell that essentially said affirmative action is constitutional to take race as one factor among many to decide which students to it mitt. So he concurred but later it became the law eliot you can take race into account to decide how to construct your student body but it has macon american institutions far more diverse. We should think of diversity or affirmatiaffirmati veaction as a commitment for integration. Huckabee has with bad debt sad truth there would be close the race the segregated. Hasnt been challenged . Numbers times that the way that we are now that it is still constitutional the Supreme Court has not said otherwise would that doesnt mean it wouldnt continue to be challenged. Coauthor of this book acting white what does that mean . So to emphasize the of question mark is how we talk about discrimination. Swith that classic example to fall that moment of a Decision Maker picks a white person over a black person. We want to present where they may so we want this person that into suggest that is a discrimination of which we should be concerned as well so to explain that that looks like me is to think about gender. In the 70s that context employers with a real happy to hire women but they are not married and dont have children. And are a certain size. That is sex discrimination they didnt say any women or older woman but just a particular kind that we want women but which ones we want eventually the courts came to conclude that this discrimination you pick some women over others does a mean it is not sex discrimination that Something Like that is happening as well we want black people as long as day overly identify as day black. So given that context and then one more example the to the Sexual Orientation the dont ask dont tell policy but that was based on the idea as long as you dont donate announce your identity it is o. K. Just dont flaunt it is a that we dont want any gay person do knots at like a man if you are a lesbian so to push the framework. Has the law adjustor act on this question of two black gore to gay or whatever . Onto gay yes. Under federal law is still permissible to say we will not hire any gay person. Because that does not cover discoverer discrimindiscrimin ation. Because there is a body of case law that says is this the case if you discriminate against a gay person not because they are gay papers say but that is actionable sex discrimination to say you discriminate me but they can say you discriminated against me there was a recent case where they found at actionable but that is the minority most will say based on sexual initiation in you lose to be in the language of sex stereotyping one of the cases that you do talk about in the book is acting white. Yes from the 1970s from that backdrop there was a policy that said you cannot come to the workplace if you have braided hair that is a professional and africanamerican woman said that is discrimination and felt that was discrimination and made a comment it is racial and sex and a particular attack on black women the Court Rejects all of those claims in the reason why is bo derek she is in braids look jabot derek white women wear braids it will not have a racial impact so as a black woman read a rogers because white women prayed their hair as well but there really does go Something Like that. Can American Airlines have rules . Yes a lot of them to have grooming standards. A white woman versus a black woman at the casino it is very specific for women and men. Women have to have make up and improve their hair but then do as well so she brings a claim but it is not actionable. Mentor subject to grooving standards as well so the regiment they put in place but unequal burden on the men so they can have long hair or wear earrings it is perfectly fine so the court said there were a lot less interesting cases that you might think would raise a question but by and large they lose. Professor who wish to coauthor . [inaudible] talk about the concept of work identity . The basic idea that is if the employer might make choices if they are overly masculine or feminine and that creates to present yourself in a particular way. And it did not wear braided hair. To comport myself in a particular way. I am not the black person in that you think i am. They tried to use their identity so you can ask yourself if you move them the of workplace everyday that are fundamentally designed in order to do well at work. So that there is a cost that results that produces the unfairness that the law recognizes. As their ben any cases . No. Part of what we wanted to do was to shed some light that witness of people thinking empirically but also with the understanding of where the of what is but they are not claims and to remember the phenomenon needs to be named at the time a black woman cannot bring a claim based on sex then they would say it is not race discrimination so go away black woman with every are experiencing it is not discrimination. Historically they were not but now they are light Kimberly Crenshaw shifted out courts think about the matter. So we wanted to write this book and have a debate with the different way of thinking about discrimination. Joe bidens comments before he was elected Vice President negative obama had a reasonable tints of success in part because he spoke with no negro dialect of. There you have a pop cultural reference in which that phenomenon that i am describing is one that i have heard before so with that thought relevant so talking black is that acting white phenomenon and one more thing to be clear there is no one way to act black or act white wood to be absolutely clear this is the way to act white or black that is at the point of the book but nevertheless for what it means to act black it is not given the part of that understanding that when you pick up the phone you make some assumptions it isnt just the look of race that you use if you are in or out of a category but allows to map into categories as well as the mecca was born in the u. K. I grew up in london and came to the u. S. When i was 18 and went to college the rest is history and with ucla. Is this book for a general audience or scholarly audience . Definitely a general audience. So we try to write that in the pros that we succeeded in doing so. Acting white is the of book booktv on cspan2 we are at ucla. The pyramid scheme that as promises of profitability in bin delivering on those promises the taking the money that investors put it in using to pay off the dividends of other investors that cannot last forever because space have people at the bottom but one form of that is very consistent with all of these schemes the approach to look for a group of insiders to have somebody in that group that day are perpetrated by individuals you cannot expect to have trust because they are selling the scheme to people like them who were distinct from the rest of society so that they missed example is the ponzi scheme because of Charles Ponzi operating in boston in the 20s put your this example was by a woman in the 1870s in boston her name was sarah and focused on unmarried women there are breakers that enable me to make good on my promises than once that starts going