To shut others down. It outraged me and it was very upsetting. It angered me that there was lack of freedom of thought on college campus. Things have gotten much worse. This sort of contempt and the anger of injustice and that got me started at rutgers university. Host was there a specific incident that got you started . Guest they had things they sold sandwiches and some had offensive names. One was called the fact bench. They put duct tape over the name censoring the names of these sandwiches. This whole outcry, in response to that we tried to ban lucky charms, the breakfast cereal on the ground that it was racist against irish people. It was a joke, it was satire but University Officials took us seriously and we recorded the encounter and the video went viral on campus in 2005. Host in 2010 you were in new orleans. Being arrested. Theres a lot of misinformation about that. I was arrested, showed my real drivers license when i entered this Federal Building. I wasnt pretending to be something i wasnt, i showed my real drivers license but i was arrested by the authorities and they were going to let me go when they found out i was james james okeefe with a story about hidden cameras, these authorities conjured up a crime against me. If it was just entering my false pretenses they conjured up this felony tampering with the phone system. The majority of the book talks about abuse and resigned in disgrace, they were leaking, blocking anonymously about me. It is really an abuse of power and im grateful pled guilty t misdemeanor being in the Federal Building but it was abuse of power by the federal government in louisiana. Host why breakthrough . Why that name . So much of what we do is circumventing the Mainstream Media and getting the news out and in front of people. It is hard to break through to the Mainstream Media these days. We did a story on cnn, cnn didnt mention a word about it and the notion of being on the front page of the New York Times, getting Anderson Cooper to talk about your number one video on youtube or trending on twitter, theres a chapter in breakthrough where we talk about a story on congressman james morans son talking about voting multiple times and the story is crescendoing on twitter and facebook, Million People tweeting about it and only at that point do the powers that be in the New York Times decide we need to talk about this, need the Mainstream Media to talk about something they dont wish to talk about, that is what we call a breakthrough. Host do you consider your politics to be conservative . Where did you grow up . Guest no i dont. One of the things that motivates me is injustice was when Andrew Breitbart died, it was about injustice, being a counterbalance. I have always people in my team are motivated by severe injustice in our society and Investigative Journalism. If it is right wing to expose the views of power and fraud and corruption and Government Spending money they shouldnt, call me names if you want, doesnt matter what you call us. They deal in characterization and innuendo, i am a rightwinger, criminal, contract, doesnt matter what word you use to describe us, the chicago suntimes in the 1970s won Pulitzer Prizes for going with the hidden camera into a voting booth and exposing the ease with which people could commit voter fraud. We have done that dozens of times and we resigned to the fact we will never win a war but we are resurrecting a type of journalism that was done 40 or 50 years ago. The difference is the proliferation of technology, means of Distribution Getting the message to millions of people, i wouldnt characterize myself as right wing. We are trying not to do that, trying to revolutionize information and get people reality. I cant change the nature of reality. I cant alter what im filming. I dont deal in characterization or description, i deal with exposing the world as it is. Host you have been accused of selective editing. Guest if you look at specific criticism nothing is significant, katie couric did deceptively editor documentary and been sued for defamation. The Washington Post retracted headline about me. I never had to make such a retraction. These are obvious occasion and ad hominem. Theres nothing else for them to say. I have gotten Mainstream Media to print hundreds of corrections about me. I never in my career made a mistake arises to the level they made. Mainstream media uses Anonymous Sources. I dont have a problem with using Anonymous Sources but you cant only use Anonymous Sources to make your point. You have to use them sparingly and be credible. A lot of these, i use the example of the Washington Post who literally had to retract a headline about me three weeks ago. The headline was james okeefe selectively edited this out. I did not selectively edit out the fact in question. He retracted that. Why isnt everyone saying he selectively edits . He did retract his article. If you look closely at the facts. I never actually specifically made any specific edit, they are just using that term as a characterization ad hominem attack against me. This is how they work and that is what i am fighting. Host you mentioned Saul Lewinsky. Were his tactics, did they work . Guest they were enormously effective. I moderated a panel at freedom fest between the son of Saul Lewinsky, he appealed to peoples selfinterest. He was antagonistic. He didnt appeal to be sense of urgency or the christian ethic. He appealed to selfinterest, how to give power to these people. Many things he wrote in rules for radicals were about giving to the havenots. I view our mission as very similar as far as the Mainstream Media does not give you information. George stephanopoulos says voter fraud does not exist. It is not possible to commit voter fraud. Our mission is to say this is possible and it is true. In many ways, mobilizing power to the citizens to get the information out. I think Saul Lewinsky is respected. He was appealing to an antagonistic sort of what is in your selfinterest, pitting groups against one another. You can say that is left or right, dont think it is dogmatic, just a sort of accepting the world as it is and the way human beings operate and he recruited people in the churches, organized in the churches. Solomons he was a contributing reason a lot of churches are democratic voting blocs. He was effective, not dogmatic. Host is there any concern about filming people when they are not aware of it . Is there and unfairness their . Guest i dont believe so. I think it is necessary. The information is of extreme Public Interest. The big stories life was earthshaking, we cant cnns supervising producer on tape saying the ceo of cnn, told him to drop his Investigative Journalism and only focus on russia. He said it was all about money. Do we want to live in a world where people are secretly recorded in elevators . Probably not. But in some cases it is of look extreme Public Interest to show this. I will go into someones private bedroom. We did one story where a guy with in a motel room, and attorney general of maryland, supposed to be at a taxpayerfunded conference, try to avoid the personal sexual nature of peoples lives but when you are talking about matters of extreme Public Interest, the hidden camera, they used when Pulitzer Prizes in chicago for doing things. They rented a bar in chicago for a year called the mirage and put hidden cameras for one year at this bar in 197576 and recorded all these conversations and wrote about the mans got bribes and backs and all these things. It is a powerful tool and big responsibility. We have to use it sparingly but if you want to talk about deception and selective editing look no further than these Anonymous Sources. We dont know what they are saying to the New York Times. We can see what they are saying or read their intuition, we dont know we have to trust the reliability of the institution and that has become corrupted in my opinion. Host how many projects does project veritas have . Guest i cant say that. Host more than one . Guest more than one. Our main target is the media. I can tell your audience what i made a promise i always delivered. The ball i was going to expose the Mainstream Media and we did. I was going to be more cases coming here and they will be real big, significant and the media is not doing its duty and they need to come to terms with what they told us undercover, all about money and profit. Laziness, greed, lack of courage. These are the things we will be exposing and very significant. Host who is nadia who youre right about in breakthrough . Guest an individual who was working in a political operation to sabotage me in a personal way. I am a marked man. People have tried to set me up, target me. The difference is she tried to create a false accusation in court and create evidence, the judge threw it out as completely bogus but this is why people dont do what i do because you get falsely accused. The difference is we film the world as it is with hidden cameras, we pose as something we are not but we dont manufacture, we dont create false evidence. I wish nadia had filmed what happened because it would show that happens but that is not how these people work. They are very machiavelli and. Andrew breitbart, my mentor, told me they had an interest in not humanizing me. To do so would be to show that i am passionate and care about justice, they dont want to do. They want me to seem like a criminal, and evil person. These are the battles i have been arrested and targeted with death and it is a deterrent to other people and if nothing else when i go to conferences like this speak to people it is to give them hope and say lets join together. Project veritas is about bringing more journalists on board. They cant shut me down, they wont shut us down and that is the message of breakthrough. Host house project veritas funded . Guest we are a nonprofit. Half of our donations come from 5, 10, 100 contributions for we are crowd source funding. No one has fiduciary control over me, no one tells us what to do, we just pursue stories of Public Interest. Many of our stories lean to the right, i challenge any of the anchors on these networks why their stories lean so heavily to the left. They call us conservative activists. Why dont you call Rachel Maddow a conservative activist . Like her i dont take a political position. If you look closely at the book i dont say anything overtly political. That is how we are funded and that is what we stand for. Host one with what you do that some of these Death Threats etc. You might get a little paranoid. Guest there is no need. Host paranoid, keep an eye on your shoulder. Guest i used to be pretty glib about it. I truly dont i didnt get into this worrying about safety. Anytime you do this kind of work is safety of your number one concern you need a different occupation. We have taken certain precautions and i cant get into what those precautions are but there are significant and serious and we take it very seriously. There are people who want to shut us down and they dont like what we are exposing. I take it very seriously. I cant tell you what we are doing as a precaution. Of the 19 you have another book coming out. Guest i cant get into the details. The publisher doesnt want me to. It will be at the end of this year. There is some extraordinary information about things we have coming up next probably after labor day, the next big bombshell on the Mainstream Media. We have the tapes already, the tapes are secured and you will see those come out. The this is one of the things it talks about is called american progress, the series of videos we are doing talks about all these networks we had embargoed the material on these stories, they spiked the story, spiked at the last minute because they were afraid of retaliation by the government. Mainstream Media Networks are freight report truisms for fear of fdc revoking their license. The next book tells this amazing story. My meetings with donald trump and the interactions we had and what it all means, stay tuned for that. We 19 james okeefe is the author of this book, breakthrough our guerrilla war to expose fraud and save democracy. This is booktv on cspan2 at freedom fest in las vegas. Featuring biographer Jonathan Hyde talking about mohammed ali. 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