Leading usbased efforts. You can find all of the results including the findings on american attitude toward space force. You can find that at cspan. Org. Six, five, four, three, two, one, 0. Lift off, we have a liftoff. 32 minutes past the hour. Liftoff on apollo 11. 50 years ago this morning at 8 32 a. M. Eastern time apollo 11 launched from pat a 39 at the Kennedy Space center important. It began its journey to the moon, four days later Neil Armstrong will be the first man to walk on the lunar surface. The remainder of the program we will hear from you about the legacy of theil apollo 11 missin and talk to you as members of congress of space and Technology Committee about amicus priority for space expiration in the future of nasa. Heres how you can get in touch with us. Share your thoughts with our phone linesur by region if youe the eastern or central time zone its two at 27,488,000 phone back or mounds or pacific, 202 7488001. As we take you up to Capitol Hill Office building we are joined by congressman of california. A democrat. Congressman, as a member of the house Space Science and technologycr committee, we are talking about 50 years after the apollo 11 mission in the United States is tried to get back to the moon. Why go back to the moon now . Go what more can we learn that the men. Lets think about what was so exciting 50 years ago. It was american ingenuity, innovation, setting a goal and reaching for the goal. And it came up faster than before. Theres still a lot that we do room. Ow about the its an actual mission to get to mars. The moon could be a launching pad. It can be a place that we get to first and then lunch and get to mars. Time. S an exciting lets get the mojo back in the icamerican ingenuity and that is what this reminds us of. To think the mission should be to get to mars, should that be the priority in space expiration right now . I think that is a mission that both democratic and republican have talked about, president obama talks about it, President Trump talked about, we talk about it in committee by getting every 2033. We may not getit there by 2033. Lets set the ambitious goal and we know theres a lot to discover on my. The president reestablish the nationalac Space Council and moe that you are in favor of. What is a national Space Council, what is it to and whats its role in setting theha priorities for space expiration. Ies think the benefit of havg a counsel, you set strategic goals that do not depend on one administration or the other. Not with the booty of the apollo program. Is democrats and republicans at all congress. You cannot change them every four years, you have to have a longterm sustained investment in longterm goals. That is what the National Space counselor can do. It is not just depend on one administration or another prude. You much of the investment, nasa budget in 2019. B 21. 5 billion. Are you happy with that level . Should be increased or decreas decreased. We will always look for more funding for science programs in nasa. It is not just about space, itor is about climate change, and other things that affect us here at home. Lets think about what we can accomplish as americans and as a world. What we did 50 years ago was remarkable and we can do that again and we can do more. It is not just about nasa when it comes to space expiration. What do you think the proper role is for private industry whenat it comes to space . Ethics what is happening with private industry like spacex and as others is a. Good thing. Its free Market Competition and for things that we know how to do get to lower exorbitant, of its commercial sector we can get there. Think about the apollo program, is issue nasa took the vehicle and nowadays you can go to. Arthel or other companies and say will purchase the launch vehicle, you Lunar Landing companies that will be out there as well. Will purchase that nasa can focus on the ail flocculation as well as building a facility on the moon. Youre in california, the seventh district sacramento base district out there. Can you talk about how important the Aerospace Industry is in your area. California in general in my district it really put the injured to powers to the moon and there really is a Legacy Company that we are proud to have in california and the heart of my district. Before you go, private industry looking to make commercial space travel possible, is that something you could see yourself doing . If someone give me a seat on a rocket that will take me into orbit, i would not pass that up. Democrat from california. The first member of the house science space and technologyno committee. We appreciate your time. Thank you for joining us. Take you for having me on. We are taking your calls as we talk to the members of congress. We want to hear from you as well as her viewers about your party for space travel in the future of space expiration. The phone line is spotted. 202 7488001 if youre in the mountain or pacific. You can go in and keep calling in. For the last two hours of her program. Will devote to this topic this being the 50th anniversary of the launch of the apollo 11 mission, ralph is in washington, d. C. What do you think are the priorities when it comes to space customer. Kill the sls. Wepr dont need another vehicle that is based on old technology. It is years behind, its going to cost 10 million to complete, that is the latest increase in cost. It will cost a billion dollars to launch, we have been through this before. We have. Arthel , they can launch these rockets at one tenth the cross. So why nasa is in a blue goggle the goes across everygg can district is crazy prude that money can be redirected towards expiration, they need to focus i on kiss printable, keep it simple stupid. They get the most complex system they can get in the cost of 45 change more. The space launch system, this is the system that nasa is building to try to get us to the moon and to mars eventually. Do you think nasa should have its own system or completely rely on the commercial commerci, it be a deeper Space Mission that we have . At this point, given the way that nasa is approaching the system, i dont think nasa should have its own launch system. The system that they are coming out with, and the heavy rocket is nearly as good as elon musk. And he can get it up for 100 million launch. Yet we want to spend a billion a launch and another 10 billion. That is money that is wasted. Space launch has become a commodity. Where nasa has always shined his work is specializes in unique and new technology in expiration vehicles. It does not make sense to go down that path any longer. On, are youour back in the Aerospace Industry, in d. C. , work with the federal government question. Used to work for the faa for 20 years, i read and curb amounts of science material. I watch this closely because and fascinated by it. I consider myself a pseudo intellectual, pseudoscientists. But im aware of the issues that are going on and i dont fall for the soundbites put out a nasa. Can i draw on the faa backer, one of the questions that was brought up recently, who shouldt regulate space when it comes to getting the vehicles openedd the space in the new frontier we are developing in many new systems that will be in space. Who should have the role in the u. S. Government for regulating space . I work for the faa and i tell you they are terrible in bed with the Airline Industry. Whatever the Airline Industry wants, the Airline Industry gets. That is an milliondollar question. Nasa has the capability, faa is a subset of dod, i mean deity. There should be another subset which would be the dedicated to regulating airspace commercial travel. That is my suggestion. About 920 this morning, coming up in about an hour we will talk to Brian Babbitt in Space Science and Technology Committee. Recently we introduce them to a piece of legislation to regulate commerce in space as well. The topic will be something we will break up with him. Thank you for your call, at a chico california. What are your priorities for the future of space expiration customer. The priorities should be that all of that stopped immediately and the money is redirected to making america infrastructure better than it is now. We are running here on earth and yet were sending the best of our mice to some distant planet, hopefully when we destroy earth will have a place to live. But especially the rich. It is so much nonsense it makes me sick. That is all i want to say. You dont support space expiration atppat all . That is offered i forget where he is from. But this is kent out of new orleans. The phone line in the eastern or central time zone. The gentleman who is on the phone a moment ago. That is prior to what i had to say. The rich is go get filthy rich, and then when the world destroyed. They will be able to jump it. That is kent and louisiana. Alfred was talking about attitude toward space travel, as the washington journal viewers no, cspan worked with the polling to conductps a full on americans used for space expiration. We will talk about the results of the poll throughout the segment. Here is one result, this is on u. S. Attitude toward nasa. United states among those pull pulled, 70 with a favorable view toward nasa. 7 with an unbearable view torna out some and having this conversation on the 50th anniversary of the launch of apollo 11 some of the numbers when it comes to Apollo Missions in this partly to pulling from back in the 1960s when it came to u. S. Support for the Apollo Mission in june of 1969. The moon landing in 1969. There is a project that started to get support, ninemonth cider following the s apollo 13 disasr back in front of the mission wing when jean of the Harrison Company walked on the moon and apollo 17 its American Public and i believe the country was spending too much on space travel. By that time space budgets have been slashed and intermissions have been canceled. Some of the numbers looking back, 500 years ago at the launh of the apollo 11 mission that happened today at 8 32 a. M. Come32 on. With nasas the legacy of the apollo 11 mission. Heres what he said. When america does absolutely stunning achievement it gets celebrated for years to come and when we saw with the 50th anniversary of apollo this year in facty this, the whole world is watching. All this programming celebrating with us and this shapes the perception of peoplean all over the world towards the United States of america in a very positive way so that young people can grow up may be seeing the perception different than they would in theirpe home couny given some of the geopolitics involved these days. It was on the cover or in a newspaper in tehran and the newspaper was, quote, the hard line newspaper of the Islamic Revolutionary guard corps. And children in this country, young people in o this country e able to see a story about nasa and our International Partners that being said we need to think about the future. People will be somewhere in 50 years afterwards. I talked to the president a few short weekses ago and he said vy clearly i know youve got to go to the moon to talk about mars bars is a generational achievement that will capture the imagination of the American People and he is absolutely right so we will continue talking about why we go to the moon. Its the proving ground. The challenge of apollo is that it ended. It wasnt sustainable because the costs wereta too high so whn we go to the moon we are driving commercial opportunities into it and the usability into the architecture, driving down the cost we are learning from apollo whats not to do and we needed to be reusable to drive on the cost and keep our eyes on thee horizon go. The Building Blocks for life dont exist on the moon they exist on mars. 12 kilometers under the surface of mars, but could on earth anywhere is there is life. Im not saying theres life on mars but the probability went up into the methane cycles are commensurate with the seasons of mars. When we think about the generational discoveries, the generational achievement discovering life on a world that is an earth would be a generational achievement. We are focused on mars. The moon is a proving ground how we live and work on another world sustainably. Mars is the destination and the monumental achievement. Easy enough to find on the website and search bar at the top of the page just type in uk and watch his full interview with the journalists who focus on space and nasa in that discussion. 202 7488000. In the mountain and pacific time zones we would also love to hear your thoughts 8001 is that number. Johnstown pennsylvania governor. Caller hello, how are you. Our next should be here to clean up the oceans and the air, take care of this planet, doesnt worry about the propulsion system maybe we ought to worry about thi this plan at first, te care of our planet. Make sure all the diseases of the world are taken care of and then worry about going to mars or whatever planet you wantyo to go to. Lets take care of this planet before we start going to other planets. Host before you go, the federal budget is large and the component of the federal budget is just plain 5 of the total budget and is about 21. 5 million. Do you think that is too much, 21. 5 billion . Caller the urgency of the priority. I dont know what the hurry is. Theres plenty of time to go with for space travel. Like i say we are about this planet first. That is my comment. Host from the recent poll that we conducted on attitudes towards nasa and Space Exploration the total budget of 21. 5 billion about 53 of respondents said it was about the right amount, 27 saying that it was too much by 20 saying that its too little. More of your phone calls in just a second you can keep calling but we will take you back up to capitol hill. Frankly this is a congressman from oklahoma, republican and also the ranking of the house science and Technology Committee. Congressman, i know you were listening in on the last call. He ended by saying i dont know what the hurry is to get back to theid moon and mars. How would you answer that question . Question . Guest it is good to be with you. If we go back it was the same debate going on in the 1960s. Was it worth spending a lot of money to develop mercury and gemini and apollo and onto the moon ands. The things that went afterwards i would say its the right thing we did 50 years ago eight in that landing on the moon and i would suggest our future is both here on planet earth and out there. We should work in both directions at once. Host how do we go about doing that with the Top Republicans on the science Space Technology committee what are your priority is . Guest we have to be willing to spend the resources toto go back to the moon, to develop the techniques that will enable us to get g to mars to me forward. Right now that is the debate in congress is it worth doing and are there folks who are concerned because it came from the trump administration, other folks who simply believe we should stay on planet earth for eternity . Our competitors around the world are doing this very thing. The satellites and the orbit sat around the moon to communicate that his statementthe statements about the fulltim fulltime baa decade. If we dont go our friends are going to leave us quite literally in the dust. Host 25. 1, is that the right amount . Guest i suspect if we really want to get back to the moon by 2024 if we want to move won to mars we are going to hae to spend what it takes. Look at when Lyndon Johnson was Vice President when the national Space Council was driving aggressively, when president kennedy was laying out a big bold agenda we have to take that kind of commitment. That said, theres all sorts of matters going on distracting people, but there were all sorts of matters going on in the 1960s. I would say we are spending at the very least a minimum of what we need to spend and if we are going to get there ahead of our competitors, we may have to spend more and that will evolve as the process goes forward. Host you seem to hint at this moment ago is space travel a politically divisive issue today . Guest but the honest we wouldnt have gone to the moon if the russians and sputnik up first if they hadnt sent them in first and the first cosmonaut in the earth first. I would say that chinese lander on the backside of the moon was our sputnik of our wake up call. Here are a little more distracted these days but the issue is still there and its important that we do it and we drive the great civilization forward. After all it is a civilian agency. Our chief competitor, theres this program is run by the Peoples Liberation army. That is a military organization. They dont do things just for fun. Host the next frontier is here. Can you talk about where youve prioritized the use of space to monitor the earth and the earth environment to go up there and were packing . Guest im the Ranking Member on the Science Committee and our jurisdiction is the National Science foundation among many other things. Weather forecasting, our ability to gauge what is going on both shortterm and longterm now is key to all of the resources we have around the earth and looking out for all of our various telescopes and vehicles in orbit around the earth giving the field for the rest is going. Short answer is if you care about what is happening on arth, and we have to continue to drive forward where would we be now if president eisenhower hadnt. Where would he b we be