Transcripts For CSPAN2 Tech Innovation Panel At American Bar

CSPAN2 Tech Innovation Panel At American Bar Association July 14, 2024

Im lucky to be one of the 13 members of the annual Meeting Program committee. We are pleased to have a panel with us today. The committee itself is from around the country, practicing areas from construction, commercial, business, criminal law and our charge is to put together a small selection of the best cuttingedge programs every year. In the fall of 2018 we started with 50 submissions, looked for those that would be the most special, the most exceptional and we were lucky to have a proposal from the science and Technology Section and our moderator, heather rafter, entitled shaping our future, tech Company Lawyers on innovation and social responsibility. The program isnt is an all women panel. It happened to work out that way. We have so many amazingly talented women in our Tech Community that it naturally fell together and we are lucky to have this group today. A few housekeeping notes, heather covered one of them, the materials are available in the apps, use your cell phone to silent if you havent already. Third, we welcome your feedback in the apps. There is a cle showcase survey. Your comments were appreciate it if you can provide them. The moderator today, heather rafter, is providing Legal Services to the Digital Media industry for 25 years. She is a principal at rafter marsh in the bay area. Digital design was the audio portion of Avid Technology than she was former chair of science and Technology Section. You have an amazing group. Take it away. There are some days you have to breathe deeply and say i am so excited when we have this panel. Little bit of background and there is someone sitting over there. Ray is a leader in the ava generally, a lot of awards for helping women and diversity and he is the reason i got involved in the ava and the reason i decided to put together the panel this year i reached out to dorian to say he was dorians mentor, dorian daily, really grateful to him. We have been doing programs on the future of technology and general counsel programs for how many years . Since 19978, we started with someone named roberta katz talking about the future of the internet, we have done one on clothing, one on nano tech, so many general councils joining us that i am so pleased today. The way you can see who is who if you dont want to look at your app but we encourage you to download it is we organize everyone alphabetically either company. So lyft goes first and that would be christened server check. After kristen there is dev stahlkopf for microsoft and the with next up dorian daley from oracle. Always last but not least im so excited we have kathy hibbs from 23andme to remind us theres biotech in science, not just high check the world i know well. So the idea from this program you mightve read about in the descrior but ill just briefly go over it what were trying to achieve today so that its lyft, microsoft, oracle, and 23andme exactly in that order are some of the most transformative Tech Companies shaping the way we think, tech, sites and biotech i should add, the way we think about privacy and cuttingedge legal issues from ai autonomous driving cars to genetic testing the facial recognition, to cybersecurity. The list is phenomenal at our challenge today will be to talk about not just as much as we can on these topics but you really distill how the general councils even contemplate thinking about the future technologies and how we should shape regulation and the law. These companies that i just mention have been leading the way on policies also need to encourage diversity in the workplace. In this roundtable we will explore how these tech leaders proceed their roles in shaping socially responsible policies, addressing emerging areas of the law, and anticipating future challenges. I very much hope we will have a lively conversation centered around what innovation and Corporate Responsibility really means in 2019, and hope you will be hearing less and less from me and a lot more from the speakers. When you also, youve downloaded the app you will find incredible plethora of wonderful information here thank you, cytec, for providing a bunch of articles on the topic will be talking about. Thank you to the general counsel with this for social influencers, a new concept for general counsel. Many have blogged, many have added the names to innovative policies are improving the world and we will talk about that. You can see their materials and those other companies and the annual Meeting Programs. If you have any problems finding them just come to me afterwards. With that, im going to not talk as much and im going to transition. One last word. When i was general counsel of the company for 14 years, our biggest challenge was this Company Called digidesign. When i started in 1994 2008 1e biggest transformative thing our company was grappling with was converting music from analog to digital. I thought that was like such a transformative concept or in ways it was. It led to the whole Digital Content economy piccola to questions about napster and digital copying and streaming. But honestly, now that seems narrower in scope. Even back then was huge and this change how we consume content, to the issues that these folks are grappling with. I cant wait to hear how that all sleep at night and have to wake up handling these tasks. Okay. Were going to start alphabetically again. Kristin, i was thinking about you and special thanks to my son alex who works at lyft and connected us. I keep thinking you started at this company. Give us a little bit about your background and then im going to ask you a few crazy questions. Sure. So nice to be here, thank you, heather and also so excited to be in this company, really incredible. A little bit of feedback. So i started at lyft almost seven years ago but my history with the Company Actually goes back a few years before that. I was outside Corporate Counsel tually for the investors and then ride which was the Predecessor Company back in jund 1 million which of the time was huge amount of money for the company and was really fortunate to be able to take over as outside Corporate Counsel for few years after that and was actually there at the original Board Meeting when the cofounders talked about this right sharing concept, the concept was moving this online car pooling platform on to mobile. And what did they have to tweak about the Business Model to make it work on mobile, you know, that moment when all the Board Members sort of swiveled their heads at me and said, is that legal . And my answer was, maybe. Laws really were not written for this use case. Transportation laws couldnt have possibly contemplated what was bending talked about. And so but six months later which was november of 2012 i jumped on board with this crazy Young Company with 30 employees, fuzzy pink mustaches which a lot of the locals will remember, didnt know if the company is going to be around a year. Didnt know if were going to be legal in our one market, san francisco, that we were in at the time. Here we are almost seven years later, a Public Company which was this years big achievement all over the United States and canada, and so its just been this is a very brief version of an incredible journey. Thank you. I feel is very exciting. I guess when a supposed rack about her children but my son worked with kristin on that. Thats to embarrass you, alex rafter. Okay. Dev, interesting when i talk with dorian about putting together this panel shes like you must get dev im like, shes not local. Shes also it way up there in redmond. I dont know if they come down to Silicon Valley. I pushed and pushed and i happen to know your predecessor brett smith and i think he was a helpful encouragement. Will talk about his book a little bit later but were so grateful you are here and when you think about microsoft, you probably have no clue, i didnt until it did some research and read brads book about how the other hand in everything and are really leading the way to think thoughtfully about technologies that are so far into the future and how to get the arms around them and come up with policies and work with other companies and governments so take it away, dev, as best you can in a few minutes explaining this huge world youre involved in. Ill start quickly with me. I think im the news general counsel among this group. Ive been in my role at microsoft for about 16 months. I was at microsoft for 13 years before the latest our h. R. Legal function. Make the transition from adding a role that was relatively narrow and incredibly deep to jumping into a really broad role where there are days everyday you get up and do something new and its a different issue. Its been a fantastic transition period its an interesting time to be general counsel intact for sure. I wake up every day and each day is different but there definitely are some recurring themes and a lot of it. I think things will talk but here, its really issue for technology is moving so quickly that its outpacing social dialogue about it, outpacing regulation. The places where i spend time on that and we are thinking about it at microsoft are facial recognition, artificial intelligence, just data handling of privacy i think that is so fundamental to all of our companies. And so i just really look for it to the dialogue about that here. Terrific. Dorian, you were the first believer in this program and when we returned pickett who to get come you never gave up and help to assemble this, so thank you very much and again, i see you taking the leadership role that i used to have and i so appreciate that. Thank you. I am dorian daley. My story actually pretty simple. I started at oracle 27 years ago. Ray hired me in a Litigation Group, and i was a member of the Litigation Group for many, many years. I ultimately became head of the Litigation Group and oversaw litigation worldwide, and investigations, and in a 2007 i was asked to be general counsel. It was i was a relatively easy transition for me. I been there for a long time. I knew the company. I knew the management team. I knew the board. I understood the trajectory of the company, and whey predecessor decided to step down and move to another company, another tech company, he did ask me to step in as interim general counsel and said he wanted to recommend that to the then ceo and president. But he wanted me to agree to it first. Of course, you know, but you all need to make a decision about the general counsel position quickly because it creates distraction within an organization. And the next day the president of the Company Called me and said, i was driving down the peninsula. She was driving up the peninsula. Peninsula. She called up and said i heard that has to be the interim general counsel but larry and i think you should be the general counsel. Why make a it temporary . We want you to do it. And i told her, this was the strangest job offer id have received in my life but, of course, took it because it was, its been an exciting place. Having been in litigation we do get visibility into all of the different areas of practice so that made it an easy transition as well. I do so much stuff within litigation and ive got my hands in some a Different Things, how much more difficult and challenging can it be . It can be more difficult and challenging, but at the same time incredibly exciting, incredibly fun, a fantastic team and im very, very proud of, some people have been there since before i was there and a lot of new people we have brought on, and i think of our core, were up for all the new challenges as we develop new technologies and as new technologies emerge and with figure out how we enhance them, how we can use them for our customers and at the same time to exactly what our customers want us to do, which is to drive their success, their businesses and their security. Its really been a wild ride. Really exciting and interesting one and im still having fun. Thank you. Kathy, this summer my mother decided to give us all genetic dna testing kits. She got something on groupon side or to mention what were you thinking. But it led to a lot of personal questions i had about do i want to know you know, as i get on in years, do i want to know if certain genetic diseases like alzheimers might be my future, or parkinsons . You can see how i feel about this topic. Do i want my kids wouldnt information out there . I did a lot of reading on this topic and they came to the conclusion, im so glad i dont have your job because its a hard one. And when we spoke on the phone i loved how popular you approached it and what your company is thinking about, and your company, i have done it yet, its going to get my dna. So please talk a little bit about your job and your background. Thank you for having me. On the chief legal and regulatory officer for 23andme so its a Small Company. We have about 700 700 employee. Both legal group as well as our Regulatory Group for the reasons have mentioned we have an fda Regulatory Group which is what brought me to 23andme. I went into biotech in the mid90s by joining the company and original Silicon Valley company with one of the first buildings on the road. It was a physicsbased company. Everything that they did to metaphysics and they along with hewlettpackard are basically phd students would work on the war effort at stanford. When that ended, stanford essentially enabled those folks if the one to Start Companies they gave them really cheap ground leases and that is why we have page mill road. It was the first time i really worked in tech or biotech. I knew nothing about physics. I would go to the Stanford Library in the Berkeley Library to find physics for dummies basically to learn about it. But i found myself motivated by biotech and so ive been at biotech since that time. And from there they do make linear accelerators for cancer treatments so thats regulated by the fda. But i but i went from there to v company where i was general counsel, a public Company Called monogram, and from there i went to Genomic Health after nine years at monogram, which is against a company in the same space. And that in november 2013, 23andme, what is really probably the most red warning letter that fda has ever given to anyone, about the genetic test that was being sold to consumers. And so i got a call about whether i would talk to the founder and ceo of 23andme from a mutual friend and i said sure but i was not planning on doing anything other than talking to her. And start that conversation and she asked me if i do it in my Immediate Reaction was no but ill help you. And then as i started calling people talking to them about what the opportunity that i saw was, which was because 23andme have gotten that warning letter, they had no choice unless the one to sell or go out of business, except to forge a path no one else had forged in the myself have been part of for several years about how you take information like that and fit it into a regulatory pathway is largely about physical devices and the risks that come from things that act on the body as opposed to information. After a few months i called her back i said, you know, i actually said to my, h as im describing this i think it might interested in this. I called back and said i ghtvehanged my mind. I might actually want to do. She said great, i been waiting for you to figure that out. So i joined. Its been a little more than five years, and the first order of business obvious he was to address the fda. We do have five fda clearances and where the only people who do. Do. And to do that we essentially had to prove that people could understand the information, which is aeally interesting thing to do. So we have that. We have a novel regulatory and then we do have consumer issues, data privacy issues, Data Security issues and all kinds of things that come out of really doing something that is novel but we think its transformative in terms of the way people look at themselves and with you might be able to become empowered around knowing what their disease risks are and finding out about that before it actually happens. You have a lot more opportunity with some of those things, if you find out earlier. I was just wondering after hearing these introductions if there were some common themes about how these women, these are role models, were going to talk more about the technology but it just wanted to take a second and just acknowledge that each of you really had to think hard and decide to take on a very big job leading to unknown pathways of the law. I want to applaud you for doing that because i dont know if i wouldve had the courage to take on a job as big as you guys did. Thank you and it makes me feel comfortable knowing your leading the way. Since it isnt all womens panel, if any of you thought, you know, im going, meissen gave it a book, alex, which was like just remember, i cant remember the title, here that, and you can do this. Sometimes when in finding i need incentive i read the book and i also think they, im also doing this the kind of show of the women that this is possible. Im just curious if that i wasr part of your thinking to give you that extra courage to take on these big jobs . I know for me i first said no to my job when it is offered to me. Ive gotten cofounders as outside counsel and i liked my job as outside counsel. I wasnt looking to go inhouse. They were persistent. It sounds the same way Anne Wojcicki was. I was nervous they get on the scroll. Only ever been, ive done by the financing transactions. Ive never been inhouse before

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