About the price of the cartels have at the border. The horrifying and appalling impact that has two innocent people on both sides of the border. One of the things that i think was really important to illuminate in chapter one of the book, of what i call the caravan cartel, is that the drug cartels couldnt do it alone. I think what is shocking to people has brought that you have explicit criminal conspirators out there that are making these billions of dollars in profits and endangering lives and really, wreaking violence and have a on innocent families and children. Let the fact that you have minted benevolent charities and religious organizations that may think that there doing good deeds and of course we all know about the kind of roads that good intentions take. The religious organizations on both sides of the border that are doing service and enabling the drug cartels to make as much cash as they do. We have seen the illegal aliens caravans come across from Central America assignment mexico, into your state and beyond. The support money, that is subsidizing, this entire illegal alien children network, especially church goes in america need to understand that in florida they are coming from their own pockets. The collection plate they think its helping their neighbors, they think its helping homeless people, and their communities, but in many ways is going straight to that network. I name many of the shelters from Central America all of the way into the interior of the United States are being subsidized for example by the catholic church. And every sect therein. The skull iranians this and in concert with nongovernmental organizations like doctors that went out borders. They are creating those magnets and those old factors that the drug cartel exploits. You making a great. Here. I would love to explore a little bit further is extent to to which there is a cycle of human smuggling. In the extent to which cartels are the central operational control of that cycle. And do your. , about how it works. Solo people i think dont understand the extent to which you got people being driven up from countries by cartels and illicit organizations for profit. One of the quotes i thought saw was 2 million for cartels with profiteering they were making moving people. Not narcotics but people to get across our country and the way they do it, is by explaining our laws. And then the asylum laws and catch and release situation. I know you know a lot about that. They come across the border and then we find the bar, people running costs and they go straight to the process by Border Patrol and then get brought straight to an ngo to then get distributed in the country in all of this is continuing the cycle of smuggling. Can you talk a little bit about that. In the explication of our laws now that all comes together. It hits the nail on the head because your average news consumer even if they are family and very wellinformed, have the impression that the people at the border are trying to evade the Border Patrol. In this untrue. [laughter]. They go right up to the station because theyve been coached. Not just like along this route to their but of course theyre hearing it on the radio and their own country. In the word spreads very fast and quickly. And of course we know now, in your state, you see that is not just Central America. All of these african migrants, did well and they have been coached. I think what is alarming is that these people around the world afford more informed about Immigration Law and all of the ins and outs and assembles how to work around all of the loopholes in many cases not the loopholes us just how it works. In the American People are about the rules and laws that are on our vote is supposed to protect us. So you got the illegal aryan parents who are already here. Maybe we got temporary protective stash and tony five years ago when there was an earthquake in salvador. Temporary and never temporary in the world of open borders. Our extended relatives. In the event the children back home that they pay coyote to pay and the coyote pays the drug cartel nobodys making money. And the amount these ngos as you mentioned, at their own cut of the profit. I think that what is most offensive to people really understand the way this works, is that this is the global human smuggling bracket and they get to operate on the patina and umbrella of compassion while they accuse all of the rest of us of being in hopes races, whatever. The question always comes up about who we are. Right. And they wrap themselves in the middle of the flag and the statute of liberty shall smi check, it was not the constitution of the United States. Or any of the u. S. Codes the deal with Immigration Law. Has been exalted as such. And even if you look at the statue of liberty as the price of liberty and mining of the world, not liberty absorbing and reselling the title world. Think you raise a lot of important. Separated before i move to one important topic. I want to close the loop on the consequences of this pretty much in the rate you mentoring reality of this british the impact of an american citizens and endangerment. The citizens of San Antonio Texas and a murder last somber, the person in perpetrated that crime, and illegal movement, kelly scott and was just prosecuted for that found guilty of this a reality in america. But also, the migrants see to come here or abused right. The women and the children on journeys while these illicit is Illegal Organizations profit. You talk about compassion. To me this is the false theme of compassion and open, somehow good for migrants. It is completely backwards. It is empowering the Illegal Organizations and again and talk about these kinds of things in your book. I would love to hear. Of that before we move on to a different chapter. I agree with you. The massive systemic exploitation of innocent people want what we all want in their lives in the cells and children. It breaks my heart. The number of ponds in this really cruel and inhumane game of open borders inc. Is incalculable. In the fact that it doesnt just stop the borders. I lived in the dc swamp area. In Montgomery County which is prided itself on being illegal alien sanctuary space in my ear, 11 years ago you could already see the signs of ambassador 13 news taking over the Public Schools in taking over local malls and gotten worse. I think is incredibly important to. Out that is not just american citizens that are victims of these crimes but it is largely other members of these migrant communities who are being victimized and raped and murdered. Thank you for making the point. Ill get to the up next topic that really caught my eye in your book. Lloyd see something thats what a shock you with viewers. Im a white guy. [laughter]. And im a bald one. In chapter four of your book though, is entitled hate machine for the Southern Poverty Law Center. And you now are looking at the exact book about gate giving away, heres what you see. You identify yourself as going nonwhite, round skilled senate daughter of filipino or catholic internet and the wife of the grandson of ukrainian jewish mechanic jewish migrant and the mother of multiracial and multi ethnic children. They start putting out the things that you are not. Racist, white supremacists. Yet these are always the chargers. And just want to hear it. My democrat colleagues will accusing the former tom who is the lifetime Law Enforcement officer defending our borders. Enforcing our laws. They call them a bigot. You see this all of the time. Can you speak to that from your perspective and what you have gone through in your live and wife you take particular offense to that. So my audio back to the very first appearance on cspan in 2002 when he came out with my very first book. Invasion. And on the First Anniversary of the september 11th attacks. When talking to each other at course of the 18th anniversary of those attacks was because of the love of country that my emigrant naturalized american parents, and sodomy to write the book and now, we have 17 years later, coming back to the topic to really flushing out the global financing of this immigration chaos. The idea even entire infrastructure that is hellbent on demonizing and smearing every Immigration Enforcement advocate. Eric about their does that research and tells the truth about the negative impact on our culture and honor schools are Public Health system and welfare let alone national security. It is really daunting because you realize that these are just random people out there crossing at the smears. It is built very well orchestrated and very wellfunded. In large part, is coming from groups that enjoy taxexempt nonprofit scotus. So the chapter that i wrote on the Southern Poverty Law Center starts out the way that you read because i encountered that smear machine very early on. Now everybody is aware of it with the large number of deep platforming of promised conservatives, independents trump supporters, and other organizations that have found success on the internet. Very early on, it was immigration the motivated groups like the National Council of la raza, Antidefamation League and a number of on the umbrella of the open Society Foundation to come up with their own guidebook right. A book of code words that you are not allowed to use. And for me in 2006 and 2007, there was a video that had attacked me for talking about academic concept of recon kisa, the idea that demographically, if many of these open borders forces will able able to overwhelm cities that they would, have an electoral power really have to do is look at the numbers and see that that his happening. But to be able to talk about it that went out being labeled a conspiracy therapist is nearly impossible these days. I can certainly help the sdlc which itself is the highly discredited organization that even mainstream liberals magazines like the atlantic, have completely exposed now weve got internal whistleblowers, who talked about harassment and Racial Discrimination within the organization and the poverty pallister no longer recorded by any Mainstream Media organizations. And yet cnn and the Washington Post are continuing to confer upon it absolute moral authority to be able to judge and it was a quote unquote white supremacist unit they have a brown skin. You its been a lot of time down the southern border. I was well obviously in the district i represent, the 21st Congressional District after the hill country out to rio county which is about a hundred miles of rio grande along this toronto center. A lot of time its been a lot of time down there and you have two. Yes, i have many times racemic and you been in the water texas arizona mexico california and i wonder if your perspective is the same as mine. It is often brought out this charge that theres a racist and to leaving in Border Security. And of 2000 that freedom to get your feeling on that. One, the brigham women and men who are overwhelmed right now on border control. Often on diaper patrol because theyre overwhelmed. Other agents are often the sector will the only have guys and gals on the line. Trying to protect a 79mile stretch. The dive tomorrow stretch of 79 miles later and that you can drive a car alongside of the river. And you cant see the river through the canyon. You dont have radio signal note cell signal. Arresting them to do the impossible. Heres my. The majority of the Border Patrol officers ive engaged with and i believe in a statistical truth. The heart says hispanic. And there hispanic americans who are along this border who believe that border is part of our sovereignty that the rule of law matters and thats why people see to come here. Eighty point in the second. Is with respect to the races charge. How is it that somehow good or people of any color, to be abused on a journey coming here. And of open borders and empowers very Illegal Organization we discussed earlier in the show, and i was that a good think for marie standpoint at all. I wonder if you have because neither of those two points. On the first. , i absolutely agree with you. I cut my teeth, the newspaper journalism in los angeles in the early 1990s. And not only did i reported the perspective of american citizens and lawabiding immigrants will Early Morning about immigration chaos in the state and trying to take control of it back then. But of course i had started building up many forces both in the Border Patrol and i. C. E. Then i moved up to the Seattle Times and was able to see the perspective of Border Patrol agents and peak deportation and removal and officers or from the northern part of the border. We its been so much time justly talking about the southern border. But then that neglected the northern border especially we do have canadian governments in power who see themselves as doormats for the world. And then in large part, harboring islamic extremists groups but then can just trace upon the northern border because all that is something that our orange rubber cones. Its alarming that didnt and been on siege for long time. Congress and the washington swamp always paid lip service to wanting to fund them more and wanting to increase art ranks. They have been purposefully turned into as you see, diaper patrol because is it too many best interests dont want them to do their jobs effectively. Another important. You made of course, is that these Border Patrol agents come from electrons. They have all and skin colors pretty brown, white, yellow. Many of course in the southern border sectors and they are families that come from lawabiding hispanic families themselves. In colorado, my adopted home state, and visited the aurora. In the i. C. E. Ages there and the other people that work there, from the private contractor, many of them are proud and recently naturalized americans who understand that to preserve that special gift of being able to become an american, you need the orderly system that is able to bet properly and decide who we want to let in and who should stay here, and how we should remove the people who dont belong here in the first place. Is about ready to move to business and your open war inc. But i cant resist commenting on the aurora situation. Your member in colorado when i see the weekend, then a group of folks streaming the i. C. E. Silly in our turn the American Flag upside down. In the foot abolished i. C. E. On it in the race the mexican flight. And i went to that facility. The saturday morning the day after that occurred in you and i talked about this. I went into their town 1200 people. I found clean rooms, event tvs, event ipads, three square meals a day and internet access, a gym, and heres the interesting. To your. There will people in the facility from 57 countries. Fiftyseven countries from around the world. Pakistan india indonesia right. This has brought just a northern triangle and problem with respect to mexico is it. Know is worldwide. Yes, i remember when you tweeted the picture of you outside of the aurora facility. It inspired me to do more if my own home state. And not long after, on labor day just recently, linens and with i. C. E. Valley the drew 200 people on the holiday. There is a hunger and thirst among grassroots ordinary citizens to show the subordinate away an estimate done until now. Im so many of these i. C. E. Facilities on siege, being lied about, with the agents being tossed and harassed i talk about it in chapter five the 18th abolished i. C. E. And teeth and a sanctuary and occurs. Again this is well subsidized and underwritten by forces that are hostile to americans sovereignty. It is very important for people to know what actually is going on in the facility. So to her that i took, i was stunned on congressman news defined out in among the many amenities that you listed on top of that, youve got these detainees many of them still criminals, aliens repeat offenders and deportation fugitives who have free access to so many things. They have psychiatry appointments. Full for Service Pharmacy and Colorado State department it dont have a fraction of these amenities. And yet if you believe the hysteria driven squad, here in the beltway, there on the order of concentration camps from world war ii. This is absolutely ridiculous and more disturbingly, and the incitement to violence, has brought just some sort of speculation. And you that with all of the targets have now faced either shootings like the ones the shots that will fired in san antonio, the cocktail drawing that the sales office in florida. And obviously the attack by the nt fact, in tacoma. The city jumps and fallen on the other side, this wouldbe declared an epidemic and there wouldbe congressional hearings out the lawsuit. That wouldbe up about how to prevent this epidemic of violence to continue. Assuming you make a great. At all at just one more. To them about the i. C. E. Facility. One consequence of the massive influx all of us united hundred thousand people who been apprehended says last october 1, has brought counting more. 600,000 of them, had been caught in the lease, but a huge number that we gotta find a place for them. Where are they going. The point i. C. E. Facilities. What i was facilitating aurora but i was told is that 80 percent of the 1200 or people who had come across our southern border recently. What is the mean. To your. About criminal. Will not being able to do as much interior enforcement. We dont have a place to put them. By interior enforcement as you know, what if you want to comment on this will talking about hardened dangerous criminals. Peoples and a battery or ass