President and ceo of the Consumer Technology association and he is our guest this week on the communicators. What is the cta and who do you represent . Guest first, thanks for having me. Its great to be back. The Consumer Technology association is nonprofit trade association representing over 2000 American Technology companies. We produced the greatest, finest, coolest, most amazing event in the world and that is the ces health each january in las vegas. Host we will get to see us in the moment but who are some of the never companies . Guest everyone you would expect to see when you walk into your local best buy, but we also have sony and apple and you name it 80 are Small Businesses but 20 of the big ones with everyone from google to airbnb to lift, the disruptors as well as companies starting out with new Technology Startups as well. Host you take policy positions . Guest yes, we do. We are very strong and clear on what polly positions we take. We are strong at certain areas and we stay out of other areas. Host what is one policy position . Guest we believe strongly in the concept of innovation is a good thing and we should foster innovation. Its something american, its in our dna and we excel at it and we want to make sure people can create something without having to go get permission from government and want to make sure the United States is a leader in innovation so we try tried to h policies that favor innovation. Host what did you learn at ces this year . Guest i learned, secretary ross was there with many other government officials and spoke to our board and he said coming to this event gives me faith in the future of our country. Its the optimism that innovation produces. Its the sense we can improve the human condition, we can make life better, people can live safer, healthier, longer lives, get better education, communicate and the greater mobility. Even food production, clean water, the most fundamental problems were seeing that mankind is facing are being resolved by innovation and technology. Host how many exhibitors . Guest over 4400 companies exhibiting an almost 3 million square feet of exhibit space. Host attendees . Guest over 107,000 people came from around the world, over onethird from outside the United States. Host joining us today is rebecca kern who is with Bloomberg Government. She is the Capitol Hill Technology policy reporter welcome. Host thanks for having me. I went to ces and saw a lot of the policy sessions i wanted to dig into what were some of the fastest areas of growth you are saying at ces these days. I know theres a lot of health and wearables. Where else are using growth . Guest health is one of the biggest because technology is an alternative to a lot of surgery and drugs and things like that. Were growing by leaps and bounds because her so Much Technology can do. Mobility is very big. Not only did we see so much in self driving cars and electric cars and hybrid cars but also different forms of mobility including urban mobility involving, different names, essentially helicopters, and, of course, all sorts electric scooters and things like that, all forms of transportation. Then yesterday talking about transportation you testified at the house energy and Commerce Committee about autonomous vehicles. How to envision regulations around them. Could you share some of the thoughts you shared at that hearing yesterday and the biggest take away . Guest it was a tremendous opportunity we have in history for mankind where we are losing about 1 Million People a year through death and several a month due to injury in car accidents. Most are human error. Night 4 is human error. If we could get rid of with all loss people to tragedy that it just have to occur in the future if we get it right. We will empower disabled people. There was a witness who was blind, represent blind people, speaking in favor of this technology. There was older people as well, all aging and is getting someone back and forth to the doctor is a big deal. Its a competitive battle going on. Major countries like china and other European Countries and others that are trying to lead a self driving cars but in the United States we have a lot of the technology in the detroit area but also with silicon valley. There so Many Companies now that a part of this ecosystem but we have to get right from a different point of view. Host ces in many ways has become a car show. Guest it certainly is a show and theres a lot of almost every Major Car Companies there because its not only the show, its not a consumer show, its a show for the entire ecosystem is there. They are doing deals because to succeed yet to do deals across your industry. We have chip companies, Different Companies that makes the columns and with brand names. Consumers want to replicate their life at home, i want to put in the car. Its internet access, audio, video, geolocation devices, so many Different Things you can do. Host are we ready for Driverless Cars or connected cars . Guest consumers are voting with their pocketbooks. They are spending a tremendous amount of money. Cars sold now have features, automatic brake systems, all these things which make cars safer and were starting to see for the first time now a real dip downward despite the fact where driving more miles, the death rate is starting to go down. Sometimes its based on mileage, based on speed limits and things like we want to avoid like texting while driving but we are starting to see a great trend down that im hopeful will continue. Where do you envision legislation happening . The house is looking into some form of legislation. It is been tried before. What are some principles you like to see if we were to see a bill . Guest as you know legislation with ruth unanimously two years ago through the house and Nothing Happened in the senate. Although the trial lawyers were part of the drafting process and signed off on it, they change the position for some reason. Its a challenge because look, if we go to Driverless Cars its going to affect trial lawyers. Fewer cases for them to bring and they will make a lot less money. It will affect auto parts replacement and machine shops and tow truck drivers. Even drivers themselves. All these legacy businesses and jobs are different. I dont think its our obligation as coach to make sure that lawyers have jobs. I dont think we should allow lawyers to kill this legislation. They have done it once already and they see every new technology as an opportunity to sue or preserve the status quo. We know a lot of things in my entire career, dealing with status quo industries, trying to protect themselves. We saw with the Motion Picture industry, vcr and recording equipment and were seeing now what theyre trying to do with the internet, trying to impose to 30 30 liability on Internet Companies because you dont like it. Same thing with hotels. Theyre trying to shut that airbnb. Between the Movie Companies and airbnb, the Hotel Companies are trying to shut down a lot of newer competition. What makes America Great is that the right to do that. Its the right to petition the government but what makes America Great is our government general doesnt listen to them because we favor innovation and progress. Thats who we are as as a coun. Not protecting the horse and buggy with companies in the industry thats out there. You brought up to 30 which is a liability field thats been in place for over 20 years. We are now hearing conversation hearing conversation in congress, senator hawley, senator graham looking at kind of trying to break that, amended in certain ways, make it contingent on political speech, neutrality is what the proposal is. Youre not allowed to protections unless you are ensuring speech on lightest neutral, which has no bipartisan support now but do you foresee cracks in 230 happening this congress . Guest if i do my job, they should. Senator josh hawley has a very promovie industry bias. Theres a secret about that when he was attorney general. He doesnt like the technology industry. Hes gunning for an award and when you have like former Vice President joe biden who said some of the same things, the Motion Picture industry is very strong, powerful lobby group and the recognize that. If it wasnt for section 230, the internet today would not exist. Theres a reason with five times the number of unicorns in the United States than europe despite the fact where roughly comparable in size. That is with foster innovation. We said this is a great technology. It sounds confusing, section 230. All it means is if you are an Internet Provider you are not responsible for what individual consumers are posting on your website, within certain exceptions and reason. Its the First Amendment thing. That is something which has allowed us to grow. Look, if this happens, if section 230 goes way, will Google Google and twitter survive . Yes. When a new startup survive . Absolutely not. Will someone like and airbnb ebay . Yes. Theres a problem there. Thats a problem we face. This is not about these great people saying we are concerned about consumer things and trying to idly some senators are falling for this ruse. It is a ruse because whats going on is trying to say this is something thats not hurting americans. This is about the First Amendment and about someone try to state their opinions online. We are dealing with the coronavirus thing in china. The Chinese Government shut down the internet and the doctor the word about it. Now they are didnt with a major, Major Health Issue because they are shutting down the government. We are not china. We have a fundamental belief in the First Amendment. The First Amendment is what is embedded into 30. Whether not beckon to countrified internet scrutiny or First Amendment and i dont find it. We do want to see Congress Erode section 230. Host it was Just Announced britain is developing an office of internet regulation to be called off, pick is that a slippery slope . Guest its an existing British Telecom Telecom Offices out there and even ready theyve been pretty reasonable a lot of these issues will see with ago. Europe, their approach is been we cant alienate so we will regulate. But unable to innovate. They recognize it. The kind of change it instantly different ways. Well see what happens. One of the reasons why britain did that is the regulations that he was posting a britain didnt like. Id be surprised given the british sensibility if thats the direction they were going in. I think they will be looking to innovate, too great, to free up some of the strictures they felt because of the eu. Im not losing sleep over that one but maybe i just dont know enough. Speaking of europe, the past gdpr, one of the largest privacy regulations systems in the world now and we are looking at doing something similar in our congress. What are the prospects you see for a federal privacy bill moving this year and what principles would you like to see if such a bill were to move . Guest gdpr is a great example of good intentions. The fact its across europe is a good thing in the sense and to the extent we copy if i similarly it makes it better if theres even more of a global standard. That allows anyone to start a a business and go globally a meter. What we are most concerned about is that the standard itself but rather having 50 states with 50 different rules all trying to claim a name for themselves and ruin American Business and grab money for the state. What makes america strongest sensor found is a fact by national bases we have we have a large innovation population and we create and we invent. To the extent we try to construct that by having 50 different states with 50 different rules, thats big problem. The numberone thing is a National Standard. The second thing is lets stop giving incentives for trial lawyers and hungry attorney general to sue businesses. Of course we want to know whether something is legal or not and will follow the rules especially if it can be done on a national basis. Lets not incentivize every lawyer to do it. The problem i have with the lawyers, and i am a recovering attorney, its the most profitable thing any university produces its lawyers. They have huge classes in the pay a lot of money. Anyone can get a lot agree. Its not that difficult to pass bar exams. You have people who are licensed to sue and the use. Theres only so much of a lawyer tax our country can do. If we have a problem with another competitor like iraq or iran or someone else we dont like and and i think we shoulde what they have for our lawyers because we have so many lawyers that can maybe teach english, two other step and we need to reduce our number. Its out of control at this point. But like provision wise, where do you want to see privacy moving . You would like to see one National Standard so youre in support of preemption it sounds like. Guest heres the deal. We face competition and a sense of three ways. We have ourselves as three competitors, the europe approaches privacy is everything. They have very little innovation but you have the right to be forgotten. You can do some horrible things and erase the whole and that history of you. Thats what they do in europe. Thats their law. They have the right to make their laws. China goes other way. China is there is no privacy. We know everything about you. We know all your biometrics. Its unacceptable for us and europeans to say this is what the government does is they take advantage. So to me its like goldilocks and the three bears. One is too hot, one is too cold. I id read a speed right in the middle. All these new technologies we know are coming. The required information and data. I was talking to the head of a Major Medical department and i would think im lucky if i can get 4000 data sets. Im up against the chinese. They have 400,000 and its no big deal. Privacy is great but theres a tradeoff in privacy with whats reasonable. We should control it as americas but not in every situation. If state is involved, if health is a false we give it up a little bit and we always will and we should. In competition and advancement, people a proven that theyre willing to give up their information for the greater good it should be more of ultra basis but the Business Committee needs standards to follow and we will follow them. But dont kill all innovation in the name of some of protecting innovation. Everyone else has lost a lovedo cancer, we can get cures if we collate treatment and the persons pass, this is something we need to share information on. Hopefully people dont voluntarily. Host are we aware we are sharing this information . Guest Healthcare Information is much more sensitive versus commercial information. The reason that facebook and google and some of these things are Free Services is because you are sharing information, giving ads which are more suited to you. We are moving slowly to an era where there are standard. We created stands with apple and fitbit and samsung and google and others. They covered have these devices share information. No one is talking about that anymore because industry has a set of guidelines they follow and its transparent, simple language, opt out. These are things which are common sense guidelines. Industry would be happy to follow. Its just a matter of having voluntary guidelines or government developing but for e cant afford to choke innovation. Host the next competitive field, is who is the name you can trust with privacy . Apple is a good example of a company that people trust with their information. Samsung is another great example. They have done a good job of keeping peoples information private. Where we have seen action is californias ccp a. Can you give us an oppression of what went into effect, what is your Company Think is a far . It is not enforceable until jul. Guest we saw a flurry of activity, the large compass of a lot of lawyers and the do with it. The small cars scratched her head and say what . The startups, if something is affected by that that may affect the funding, may affect their ability to start a business. To the extent to follow europe was a bad thing. I just dont think states should have the own laws on this. We need a National Standard because it is chilling and if we have to follow 50 different states, that kills the Startup Community and thats what whate cant afford to happen. They dont love 50 states approach either. Its more expensive for them, difficult to get at useful messages. You have to explain the different consumers in different states what youre doing. Speaking of large compass, ftc recently announced they will start looking at mergers in the past that large tech compass like microsoft, google, amazo, apple and facebook have conducted over the past decade. What do you think of this retroactive look back of mergers . The have indicated if they will take action yet or not, but do you think this is warranted right now with the size of these large companies. Guest the federal trade commission is a normative authority. I chaired when the talk of a competition and result point about certainty. This look back at acquisitions going back several years i find a little troublesome. It was so long ago. I know electronically now i think we be overwhelmed with millions and millions of documents and maybe they will find something they think its interesting but tearing apart a merger that occur tinges group item how you do that. I used to be an antitrust attorney. The problem is sometimes antitrust laws, this goes to business certainty, i think a company has right to know what theyre doing is legal or not. Those Companies Made acquisitions that follow the law. Ftc, department of justice approved many of them and that is they were looking back, that scares me because sometimes what government lawyers to do is create new areas of law. If youre a business you have a right to know what the law is when you do business transaction. It should be clear and thats one of the things were to challenge congress on and say what is the law and how can business following . Dont create new fears because you dont like something it happened ten years ago and theres a change in political administration. Lets do with the future. If you have a new policy for the future make it prospective. But to make it retroactive, thats that fair. Thats not the american way. Host the white house chief Technology Officer also attended ces this past year. Is it important the white house have cto . Guest absolutely support the white house have chief Technology Officer. The first cto in the world was my best friend and former roommate, the secretary of virginia. He did something amazing. He led an effort to standardize the law of commercial business on the internet, so business could occur. It was a by person effort, adopted unanimously in virginia. A chief Technology Officer in incumbent has a clear job. He has continued the work of the Obama Administration in every major innovation every and thats a lot of whats going on with the Trump Administration and evolving technology. They say the path towards technology which you know is going to occur and what are the right policies. There hasnt been this ground shifting change from one administration to the other with technology for the most part. Its important the companies and businesses are looking for because technology is changing so rapidly. We know where we want to go. We want to go competitively. We want to server people so they are better served and better educated and we also know it makes sense to have someone, thats their job. No problem. Hes done a fibrous job. His predecessors in the Obama Administration did a great job. Host are we on the right path towards a 5g . Guest 5g is every ten years theres a new gee, faster, better, bigger. If wasnt for wireless we would have all these great new things. Our economy with this healthy. We wouldnt have jobs we have. Were on the cusp of 5g. That technology is there. Theres all sorts of different ways of doing it. Its not like there is just one. Theres different sorts of spectrum. Theres been a blip in the sent our government has determined one of the Chinese Companies is putting us at risk if we use the technology. I dont know. I trust our government and thats what theyre going to do. I understand that so now were in a bit of rip and replace competitive how to implement it. We are focused on the show them how we get to the broadband, to the Rural Communities because they are suffering. Thats important. We will get there. Its question of when and how but at the ces i convened a meeting of two of our cabinet secretaries and several european ministers have talked about how the fact is the european and American Values in terms of privacy, liberty, they are very much in common and we have mutual interest in making sure we get to the next technology especially when china is harvesting data from everyone and they will have the data they need to do well in artificial intelligence, robotics, self driving. Plus they have double the population of europe and u. S. Combine and a producing 1 million stem graduates the year. Thats multiples more than we are in europe together. They have everything they need in china to go forward. We have a sense of liberty and democracy at a shared interest in making sure we are competitive and innovative as well. So 5g is one of the chokepoints but so some of these other technologies and datagathering in artificial intelligence. Host is huawei exhibitor at ces and a member of cta . Guest they are not a member but they do exhibit at ces even though they cant fill in the u. S. Because ces is an international event. They will meet their customers from latin america and elsewhere in the world. Speaking of 5g, are we on the race to beat china . Were heavily competitive and now huawei is out of the picture, will that inhibit our growth in reaching broader 5g deployment . Guest i dont know what it means to be china because they will have more 5g because of the physical size and larger population. They will get there quicker in terms of sheer numbers. We cant win that game. Plus they have a leg up with huawei. Lets be honest, huawei bases a lot of the technology on stuff the u. S. Has in your pad and some of it they were accused of just taking but we have good thing with ericsson and nokia, samsung, cisco stepping up another American Companies have stepped up and deformed this consortia to try to make sure we can go forward as a western democracy, if you will, and make sure we produce something which gets our citizen to what they want which is faster, quicker, better, bigger wireless pipes. We were heading into the 200 elections and im wondering what you think, whether companies are doing enough to address this information and misinformation online . Do think that taking enough responsibility in removing deep fake videos . We saw another step last week of an altered video of Speaker Nancy Pelosi ripping up president Donald Trumps speech but in a splicing with other parts of his speech, which twitter and facebook decided was not something to take down. Where do you think this conversation is heading going into the next election . Guest politicians love to get points for beating up on facebook for that budget they all use it because it provides incredible target marketing. I get to see a politician elected to congress if each one of their ads were carefully examined by journalist like yourself that says its totally accurate, politicians take i looked at facebook after i saw nothing wrong with it. Thats what nancy pelosi did anyone knows that she wasnt doing it while they bring recognizing the one of your old guy who served in the military, to me, you are stepping into a dangerous ground if you think facebook should make judgment calls. I dont want private industry making judgment calls about political advertising. I think a little advertising that soviet politics fight each other. Is a there a more reasonable course we could take . Lets limit a timeframe for political advertising . Some country said lets cut it off trucks we have to get more creative to level the Playing Field for politicians. But if we start having Companies Making judgment calls about what is real or not, and thats the poster child for an ad, that was obviously satire and a political ad for anyone in washington who looked of it. I cant believe that was the case. There are really false aspic sometimes the New York Times make a judgment call and others pick them a lot of time to do that. They have limited number of ads. I dont think its a fair burden to put on a Company Facebook or others to say you have to make this decision. There should be in a way it did with that that doesnt involve the editorial judgment. Thats not for me to say. Thats up to congress. I hope to make one respecting the first night because it has gotten a lot of respect limit. Some of the traditional medium for jumping up and down think thats unfair, thats bad social media. The First Amendment protection of the one and it affects how political speech, facebooks rights as well. We have to be careful because the First Amendment is being torn up on college campuses. Its been torn up by traditional media and its been torn up by attacks of facebook. The First Amendment is so central to who we are as a nation, i i would hate to see t eroded. Host gary shapiro is president ceo of the Consumer Technology association. Rebecca kern is with Bloomberg Government where she covers technology on capitol hill. This addition of the communicators and all others are available as podcasts. Cspan, your unfiltered view of the government. Treated by cable in 1979 and brought to you today by your television provider. Watch our Live Campaign 2020 super tuesday coverage of the president ial primaries and caucuses from 14 states including alabama, arkansas, california, colorado, maine, massachusetts, minnesota, north carolina, oklahoma, tennessee, texas, utah, vermont and virginia with candidates speeches and results. Coverage begins tuesday, july 9 you eastern on cspan, cspan. Org, or listen wherever you are on the free cspan radio app. Live now to aipac annual policy conference in washington, d. C. Aipac stands for the American Israel Public Affairs committee working to promote israels relationship with the u. S. Coming up with expect to hear from president of colombia, new york governor andrew cuomo. Latest morning Vice President mike pence. Later this morning. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] we are live this morning here in washington, d. C. Will her remarks from the president of colombia, also new york governor andrew cuomo, Vice President mike pence the scheduled to speak latest morning. Also comments from Michael Bloomberg and senator cory booker. I understand they running a a couple minutes behind the while we wait for remarks we wait for the start of this conference, show you remarks from fox host from last weeks cpac gathering. Ill be damned. Good morning. How are we doing . When asked did because cpac is that i only do morning. So i say greetings from fox and friends from everyone on the curvy couch. We love you. Im convinced i have the greatest assignment in television, which is to travel across the country and go to diners in the middle of nowhere and talk to the most amazing people in the country. Its amazing. I also want to ask you all if you would to turn around and wait way too fox nation who was dreaming this entire event here at cpac. Fox nation, thank you. I love it. If you dont have fox nation you got to get it. Im telling you as you know, we are in a culture war. And then a culture war who controls the education and the information defines what the next generation learns and understand. Imagine what were up against right now in the president ial election. Fox nation as new document out by representative beyer called unauthorized history of socialism. Youre not going to get that from netflix where susan rice is on the board and barack obama produces documentaries. You get the truth from people who believe in america, who believe in capitalism, who believe in freedom. Individual liberty, the very thing, rights endowed aya creator, not rights given by government. [applause] we have the best story to tell, the american story. But if we dont tell it, then we lose it. Im not here to do a promo for fox nation well, maybe. But i am here to share that education and information to this generation, to the next generation is how we keep our country free. You dont just when it at the ballot box. The miracle of 2016 is just that, and electoral miracle. Thank god we live in donald Trump America today. [applause] but the question of our moment is the question of whether or not 2016 was an electoral blip, reflection of society of a political body still capable of going to the ballot box with enough numbers, but not capable of recapturing a society and a culture that is completely overwhelmed by the left. Because as you know, everything the left touches, it destroys their utterly destroys. Thats the question we have in front of us in 2020. Its been a reality a lot of us have woken up to. Ive got a new book out, let me preface it by saying, do you guys know marc stein . Absolutely love marc stein. I think he is my favorite. He wrote a book about ten years ago called america alone. Its an amazing book about how demographics and culture and everything the world faces said its about america being a beacon of freedom. Four years after that he had to write a book called after america because what he observed was so dramatic in what the left was trying to do to tear down america. Im not comparing myself to mark stein because nobody can, ill tell you this. Four years ago i wrote a book called in the arena. Its about a Teddy Roosevelt speech and its about the ingredients that citizens need to keep our republic free because were not a democracy, we are a republic, all right . What we need to do. Four years later largely because of what donald trump has taught us, what he has exposed from the left, i said i honestly have to write version two, and is called american crusade. Its coming out in may. I think we have the cover up right there. Its about what needs to happen as citizens to go even further. Thousands years ago europe was about to be, was effectively under threat from islamic hordes, crusaders, painted across on the shield and went to jerusalem to defend their faith, to defend their faith. It wasnt perfect but without it we would not have a Christian Europe today. 240 years ago we had our founders scream at me liberty or give me death without those men, without that moment we wouldnt have the american experiment that we are charged with keeping free today. And four years ago a country rose up and said were going to make America Great again. [applause] we live in a similar moment. And let me tell you why. Because ill make a concession at this point small group of friends. My name is pete hegseth and i was almost a never trumper. [booing] all, you werent . [laughing] get out of here. Some people hold on. Some people saw it right away. And god bless you for seeing that. But a lot of us, a lot of people didnt and didnt understand the existential moment we were in. We were used to the cozy republican think tanks and the conservative talking points and we were good at losing. We were very good at losing. Healing good about it. And then we looked around. We looked at the bull in a china shop that was donald trump, the break glass in case of war president , okay . And we realize this is not a debate about marginal tax rates, should there be a little higher or a little bit lower. This is not a debate about do we tinker here or take other about policy. We are in a battle for the soul of america. This is not
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