Eastern on book tv from cspan2. And now on book tv, reset author programs about the Trump Administration. We begin with the author and journalist donald, he appeared on the other Interview Program afterwards in 2018 where he discussed how President Trump business experience has impacted his presidency. Lets talk about the media. You put a lot of examples in the book is you just described. It seemed to have no bounds for discrediting the negative narratives on donald trump. Sue present trump could do no wrong. But for donald trump, he to do no right. What is your sense of what is driving this in the news or the Mainstream Media that you are part of. Will first of all, theres a bias against republicans in general. With dragon he was portrayed as stupid or dangerous both and thing in the same thing with trump. According to the median they just cant get rid of that. And i think, if they feel that if they did, it would be ostracized by their colleagues. For example, some people within the white house Correspondence Team that among themselves, they laugh at him, they mock him, and that is the overriding thing. Many people just inherently cannot think independently. In fact that is one reason that i left college after two years like a few other people. I didnt want to be told how to think really didnt want to be told what to read. Wanted to get firsthand what actually happened it. Possibly having up operated. I dont have blinders on. Lets put it on with all of these details about the real donald. That is excellent and it is a fun read. But happened with carl mylan during the access would important we can for the campaign. The deal was there any repercussions, they did later. He went to debate any supported trump actually didnt withdraw the support. Wouldnt he say. The sea,. You can get out of the race will in a landslide. That did not, is made chief of staff. But the same time truck never forgive him for saying that which is unfortunate. And so many successes. He led ceos to realize that they could expanding him will work. It wasnt constricted. A lot of other achievements that occurred. One point, hillary had sent shows a trump is a coercive but actually what he is saying in the tape is women are after him all of the time. And he takes advantage of that. Were star, they want to do that. I thought nonconsensual activity. In his consensual activity that he describes. Well. It wasnt anything that really has happened in politics in my lifetime. So we saw something that usually doesnt happen. Usually it would be the death of a president ial campaign. But paul ryan asked away looking back, what is it that they did not understand. When there was paul ryan or ronald davis, and about the truck base about these things about donald trump. I think ryan understood but it is very hard for people in certain circles on the east of the west, to understand the way the average voter thanks. My contractor working class president s, said to me that i dont care what trump says, i just care about what he does. That sums up when the people in the socalled workingclass think. After be judged by the results. Going in to, if you going to someplace in his pocket, he may be fired. And he can spout off about all kinds of things that he will be held accountable. These people understand results printed and thats what you with donald trump. I see your point in that. That was great. Lets talk about tom, it was alien to me but you write that behind the hedges, and palm beach, there are scams and orders, entries jealousies, pretenses bigotry, and occasional generosity makes a tv show look like nursery tales. Talk about how donald trump came into my lago as personality, how he took that place and how it has resulted today. Trump first heard about it from his driver. This is difficult he will go around asking people and opinion. Their chambermaid or secret service agent, he asks his advisors but also, he has a wide canvas of people who give him opinions as well as by about 12 friends who he consults printed name and them in the book. Most of them are billionaires. But that is the way he works. When i was there recently with him, he asked me what i thought about israeli settlements. I knows much about the middle east as he knows about the other things. But again my opinion. But then he decided that it was the idea of his lawyer in florida, jews and blacks, can be profit making and sure enough 700 million. That was johns second wife against turning it to a club, she wanted it for herself. He went ahead with it, the one thing that she did to contribute is that he should have us fall, so he created trumps ball at maralago, as he says at the closest thing to paradise he will ever get to. It is simply unbelievable and overlooks both sides of the aisle which is only about a halfmile wide up to the point. In this culture is unique, is to work just person in the world the house these traditions the red cross, the charities developing these models, in the end they produce that much money, one club member was married to a very wealthy real estate guy from italy and eventually he died and left her about 300 million, he underachieved stored his body at a local funeral home for 40 days under ice because he said i wanted to enjoy the season, as they call it the season, i was faithful to him and now i want to enjoy myself and go to the parties party on the yacht with thyvonna in the enter into suchs going to do her the same thing to her second. While. I dont think many spouses would go for that. But maybe in palm beach. It is incredible, talk about the flag that he had a battle with up palm beach down there. He had a huge huge blog, towering over mira lago, in the street and they said this is against the regulation and he went to battle and said it was a freespeech issue, he sued the town and they started fighting him a huge amount of money every day, eventually they settled and he agreed to move the flagpole further away from the street and to reduce the length of the flagpole, but guess what, he put on a mound that is workmen creative. In the end it was just as hard as it was before. This is typical donald trump. As he says, he always wins, not quite but he usually does. And the way he finagled to get the club approved by the town is sorted typical how he operates, on the one hand his lawyer sent copies of gentlemens agreement in another similar to the Town Council Members who were trying to prevent him from turning this into a club implying their biggest and thats why there against approving the club, the so then he sued the town and he invited the Town Council Members maralago and said we will have glamorous girls and he also played golf with them and he uses the carrot and the stick and eventually it was miralago that brings us almost 40 million a year and everybody wants to go there, that sums up the weight trump operates. Another recent book about President Trump is Bob Woodwards fear, and if the author appoints a prizewinning journalist discusses conclusion about the Trump Administration. He spoke at George Washington university in september 2018. Everyone here has seen the book with an enormous amount of attention and the thing that struck me the most about the book was i thought that you drew conclusion in a way that you may not have in previous books. You are very critical of how comey handled his interactions with the president when he briefed him on the dossier. In your largest conclusion can you imagine two weeks away from becoming president and the fbi director comes in and theres no way that J Edgar Hoover is not far behind and says by the way, if we had the secret dossier about you being with prostitutes in moscow three years earlier, how would you feel. How should comey have handled it. [laughter] not that way. Trump has legitimate beef in my view and i say so in the book. Being the prisoner of too much history in writing about too much president in the case of bill clinton when he came into office in 1993 and his white House Counsel in the first of six, that is right but the first and as you imagine, clinton had some baggage to and there was all kinds of things that the fbi got about clintons Extracurricular Activities which were abundant so they sent all this to clinton in the senate to the white House Counsel, and he looked at it and said put in the burn bags and he said okay, lets see what happens, lets see how these things im not sure the burn bag i wish you wouldve called me. [laughter] he did not but the idea of the fbi director getting in the face of somebody like trump who has a big ego and i quote in the book that clinton told his lawyer after the briefing and she said melania can never find out about this and of course it was about two minutes or two days later she did as did the world. And you draw a conclusion that the administration is and very dangerous spot, is at the furthest you have ever gone and why did you go so far. Evelyn duffy who is my assistant, are you here evelyn, raise your hand evelyn, standup. [applause] George WashingtonUniversity Graduate in the year 2007, she has worked for me since that time and weve done five books, four president s and she knows all the secrets. And she knows how to keep secrets and she knows how to kick me in the. Ass. [laughter] and for that i salute her in gw. But evelyn and my wife are very much involved is a Family Affair and they both said you cannot step away from the obvious conclusions of what you found in the book. That there are a group of people which i illustrate very vividly who stand up to trump, steal documents office desk on south korean trade because it is connected to lots of sensitive intelligence operations, documents on nafta, documents on Climate Change and so forth, its a regular procedure. Give it off the resolute desk and he will not remember or not think about it. As i say, you have all of the other things, his lawyer for the Russian Investigation for eight months, can you imagine being trumps lawyer, for eight months. He goes through and he finally does a practice session with trump and in the white house, there overlooking the monument and the lawyer plays mueller and ask questions of trump, its a dry run in trump makes things up and loses emotional control and finally he says you cannot testify, if you testify will be as he elegantly puts it, an orange jumpsuit. And you dont have to know a lot about Law Enforcement to not recognize what that is. So you connect all of these things in my conclusion in the book is that its an administration and a white house that is going through a nervous breakdown. Its going through a nervous breakdown, how could it go wrong, what would a manifestation of that look like, is it something on the trader economic side, give us an example, its in a dangerous spot, what could happen. On trade, it sounds has to tear but the trade war with china, 99. 9 of the economist say that tariffs make no sense, they hurt consumers, we buy things abroad in this country because they are cheaper and better quality in trump somehow has in his head that were taken that money from us, they are stealing it and he will not get that out of his head. One of the conclusions that a make is that there is a war on truth, part of it is not just what trump says, but where trump gets these ideas in the experts go in and the chief Economic Advisor stops him gently in an affectionate perhaps way and says if you shut the [bleep] up you would learn something. [laughter] [applause] to look at recent books on the Trump Administration continues with his book the case where trump deals with how the president has followed through on his campaign promises, mr. Hanson appeared on her author Interview Program after words on 2018 and spoke with former republican congressman dave of virginia. I think in the deep state a permanent class of federal and state and local workers who feel they are exempt from public accountability through Civil Service or union and they had resources of the state so they want to regulate a farmer or they want to sue a coal company, they have the memes to bankrupt the person. Or if there are federal prosecutor and say will bring in front of the liberal washington, d. C. Jury entire you up for years and less should make to this, this, this as we saw with the mueller, thats the deep state, they tend to be progressive only in the sense that the ideology of making them bigger and given the more power is democratic and leftist. That is one of the reasons they hated trump, you mentioned the names but i feel like him and alter universe, James Cropper went before a Congressional Committee and under oath he swore the United States was not intercepting communication of practices then he said i lied, i gave the least untruth. There were no consequences. John brennan went before a Congressional Committee and said i tell you we have not had any Collateral Damage or attacks in afghanistan. That was a lie, he admitted it, he went before another committee and said we do not at the cia tap into the senate because that is a lie, there was no ramifications, james comey said the two of your Congressional Committees on 245 occasions, i cannot remember, i do not know if you are i said that to an irs investigator we would be in jail. People have an assumption that they have a right to overturn an election because they are exempt and powerful and when Andrew Mccabe said that he thought donald trump was not acting right and you want to abroad rosenstein, Deputy Attorney general and they discussed whether they should tap the president of the United States for wire and those two would decide whether they should pull cabinet officers to remove an elected president on the 25th amendment which was never designed for that, that was the opinion me of what the deep state thought of itself in his power and his morality and throughout history and the spanish empire, or the empire, it is always a problem and it always grows and has supremacy. I dont know how we stop it but we have to speak out against it. Without my constituents and liberals, i get the chance that bernie sanders, hes in agreement with what you said about the deep state and the concentration of wealth empowers on the left, it is interesting that Everybody Knows this and people would ask, what can we do, and you really left in a tough fine that the major politicians that they know, if you mess with the deep state, the cia, they told trump, i think it was schumer made a comment. I have many of those quotes in the book when schumer says im six ways to sunday to get you when john brennan tweeted an attack on trump, Samantha Power said not a good idea and theres a lot of evidence of what they thought of themselves. Brandon and cropper encomium mccabe thought they were exempt and sober they are right, they have not been exposed to criminal prosecution that anyone of us have done it, we wouldve been leveraged and we go after all of the minor characters, we find a carter page, papadopoulos and we threaten them for years of imprisonment and financial ruin unless they give a particular testimony we find useful but we have all the asymmetrical criminality that we do not touch because part of it is their own fault, we give the undo prestige and obedience to people with alphabet titles after the name jd, phd, ma, md, the council and formulations with the Hoover Institution and rather just examining people, that was part of a revolution of the 30s, 40s and 50s of a managerial society. We feel there is a professional class because there is credential and they were to the right place and therefore that equates with wisdom and sobriety and yet thats another reason that people heated donald trump. If you walked into a room and donald trump, if you said mr. Trump you cannot do that because the counsel and formulation things its a bad idea, he would tell me what good idea they had lately, was that the north korea, six party agreement, was that they agreed on framework, it has not worked, was afghanistan, we have not one. That is one reason they do not like him. Is interesting when charlottesville came up in your name linked to not season that requires a big state in our philosophy believes that we want to reduce the federal government madisonian logic with federal state and local in the federal separation of powers and uc President Trump fighting this war daily and trying to fight do you see any light at the ends of the tunnel that were able to reduce the size and scope of government and the power of being wielded and as you noted is continually grown. I think the problem is we hear that donald trump has not filled the federal office, hes deregulated, but the same time the cost of government and the deficit has been rising so you want to know if he someone engaged in the character because its very hard to see that he has the expertise and experience in the help, the systematically go through the ministry of state and say is this person needed, as that person wanted, can we cut money here, im really worried about the role of the federal prosecutors into the state prosecutors, the idea that the federal prosecutor can decide completely which case to try into leveraged witnesses for the power in the state behind him to extract a confession. It is really scary because its predicated that im going to go to you and i want to convict him and i found something in your past and im going to try you and it will cost you a Million Dollars to defend yourself and i have a budget and i wil will brk you if you testify against him. I dont think it was ever intended to work that way. The look at recent books on the