Condition, the family of tech and publicpolicy under policy issues in the United States and around the world. These policy briefings provided opportunity to hear directly from our nations top scholars on the pressing issues facing the road during this difficult time. As we all unite to confront the challenges of the worldwide pandemic, conversations like this have never been more important. We will be taking on these questions today so i encourage you to submit yours using the q a button located at the bottom of your screen. Todays briefing is from condoleezza rice, the senior fellow on Public Policy at the Hoover Institution, she served as a 66 secretary of state of the United States the first africanamerican woman to hold the post, she was also president george w. Bushs National Security advisor, we look forward to her next director of the Hoover Institution this fall, welcome, thank you for joining us. Good morning. Youre an expert in the International System, how do you think the International System is responding to the pandemic. Good morning and welcome to everyone to our webinar, the real story is the International System is not responding its individuals countries that are responding. We see the triumph of poverty we see it now, maybe not surprising when people are frightened or something or unusual and or have any experience, people tend to go back to what they know best in particular democracies, these are the leaders that they can hold accountable and the response has been country by country, we see it and travel bands between countries and we see in the fact that individual countries that are deciding the pace of rate that they are going to tell people to shelter in place, you see the National Healthcare person or the National Healthcare expert that is their next to the Prime Minister or next to the president so the International System really has not been on point, its really been individual countries, that cuts against the grain the way that we thought about globalization and a particularly cuts against the grain and maybe we can talk about this like in york where they have tried for decades to create a borderless territory in europe where there is one path forward where people move easily from country to country and now we see when it starts in italy, it spreads quite quickly in europe and we see individual countries trying to get out. Lets talk about how International Institutions respond, people have commented on the world that the un is playing and the World Health Organization, we have a question if nato should be doing more, it seems there is an instinct for people who believe in the Global Community more global institutions to do more. Is that a realistic expectation or how should we think about that. I think theres unfolding faces, that is okay, right now the response is countries are trying to take care of their own. They are doing so by making sure that they get their citizens back home, that is one interesting response, lets get all of our citizens back home where we can take care of her own, they are responding with a travel ban and airlines are basically not flying between countries. But i do think the time should come relatively soon when we see International Institution plays a bigger role, particularly the g20 which is the 20th largest economy in the world can take a role in helping to coordinate an economic response in the way that they get after the financial crisis of 2008 2009. Certainly when we think about the effect of the pandemic on developing countries it is going to be important to leverage all the work that we have done over the last couple of decades to improve the healthcare in those countries, one interesting approach to the United States can use, we have a huge network built up because of the president s emergency plan for relief starting with president bush, continued by president obama, going to President Trump where we help developing countries can build Healthcare Systems and the networks to distribute even way out in the countryside, those are the kinds of things that i hope countries will band together, it is kind of interesting, this is the exact opposite response that we had after 9 11 when after 9 11 countries realize that it was a borderless threat that in fact you had to share information, you had to share intelligence information, you had to share law enforcement, we had within a very short period of time away to track it across borders, hopefully once we are through the really frightening part of this countries will start to band together to think about how to get a response and also to not let it happen again. Timing is reporting. Right now it is totally understandable that Prime Ministers, president s are going to concentrate on what is happening at home. Lets talk about the role of the u. S. Response in the position a commonly expressed what should we be doing more to make the world a more response to the global pin democrat what do you think the United States response, is it inadequate. Right now the United States is trying to save new york, is worrying about whats going on and thats understandable, but is not that we have done nothing, in fact the administration has made available in millions of dollars for covid19 response in developing countries, im quite certain that our embassies in places like that we are trying to help other countries with the response. We also as i mentioned, we have the eighth Emergency Network which helps countries that are in the developing world to respond to the crisis. In time i think the United States will take a bigger leadership role but for now the foreign assistance should be welcomed in the fact it will not help right now to call together a big conference to talk about response to the virus, it will not be helpful, it will be helpful in a few months to do exactly that and also to try to help the world plan better for the next time around. If you are joining us, im tom gilligan and this is the hoovers virtual policy breaking with congressma congresswoman r. What are the important similarities or differences between then and now. One of the unfortunate similarities because it was also hard to get information out of china during the sars outbreak, we knew something had happened and it was very hard to get answers out of china on what had happened and that is unfortunately a recurring pattern this time around and possibly the most troubling aspect of this crisis it is kind of in the nature, it is in the nature of the chinese system and authoritarian system that controls information is power. Control of the narrative is power so we should not be surprised that when this outbreak happens in wuhan that they silenced the positions of medical students to sound the alarm, can you imagine those people being silent in the United States in any country in germany or brazil. Somebody wouldve picked up the story in the press and it wouldve been known that there was a problem the chinese did what authoritarians do, they gathered, they silenced those who were trying to sound the alarm and they wanted to have time to develop the narrative that it would be that will be blessed by china which had to go all the way to beijing before you can say anything they will be a reckoning for china with its own population which is angered by the lack of information and certainly the International Community should raise with the chinese a very strongly why we always get this response. Let me push you on that, we have all the questions about china, let me combine a couple, gina asked which stations and how should china be held to account for this, roger says in your opinion, what is the proper response to china and the ccp leadership who critically have information about the wuhan virus and why the hundreds of thousands of deaths cost trillions of dollars. There is a public part of this in a private part of this, the public part of this over the next month is to just let it be known that china responded in the way that it did or did not respond, let me put it that way, the chinese are going to create into a counter narrative. When we found out about it we got on top of it, look at how quickly through social distancing in quarantine and look how quickly we recovered and by the way you help the rest of the world by sending ppe and by sending help and aid to all of the world, they are going to try to shift the narrative from their initial responsibly to not fessing up to what was happening to we got on top of it and help the rest of you, thats how they will shift the narrative, dont let it happen, we have to have an honest assessment of how this happened, where started when it started, when the party knew and why they did not get on it. Thats a public part, the private part, you have to look at the chinese and say you cannot be doing this, you have to be a more responsible partner, for more responsible power given your weight in the International System you are not a developing country that when something happens it does not have an impact, your people travel, your people work in other countries, there are a lot of Chinese Workers apparently in italy at the time, was that the transmission, we dont know for sure but if were going to get a handle on how this thing moved, the fact that china is such a big player in people traveling and working elsewhere is a big part of the story, i think there is a public acknowledgment of what happened and also the private conversations with the chinese about how we dont let this happen again. Interesting. Unnatural question arises, is it enough to get them to have a more correct attitude to rout td the World Health Organization in their Scientific Data that has an impact on the rest of the world 40 have to couple was sanctions or tariffs or trade or how would you the former secretary of state think of Something Like that. I would try the first route first. If you keep the focus on how this started, they will actually be embarrassed on that. I think if you let them skip the narrative to everything that theyve done sending out the ppes, i would really keep the focus, i call these meetings and they will try to veto anything that comes out of it but i call the meeting and i say we will share the United States will share the information and maybe you can bring the europeans or others along and will share how we think the started and i would try that Campaign First because i dont really think the u. S. Economy and everybodys economy is going to be recovering, theyll think we want to shock the system more with more sanctions and more trade wars and the like when is trying to recover so i try certainly to try that method first of lets call it calling names in sending a message that what they did was unacceptable. Heres an interesting question that i think is about deterrence and how our adversaries use the circumstance, it is from jessica, irma government student at texas in austin, i was wondering what do you think russia is learning about how the u. S. Handled this kind of crisis. Very good question, early on the russians were saying we have done this so much better because initially their numbers were low and while the number started to go up youre not hearing that so much anymore and youre starting to get stayathome orders and all the things that youre seeing in the rest of the country, im told by others there being issued by the mayor of moscow and the Prime Minister and president putin has decided to take him self out the bad News Business of this. And that eventually, of course i can tell you when its over he will take credit for whatever happened. But i think the russians who initially wouldve set our system is so much better and theyre still learning that their system is not that much better, there are two different russians, there is one russia of citydwellers who circulate, travel, theres also a russia that is full of villages that will probably see none of it because people do not seek relate and it has to be a little bit with which russia youre talking about. This pandemic has the longrun impact, tell us what do you think will be the impact on globalization, Global Supply chains, the Free Movement of people around the world in just the trust that is necessary to sustain a system like that. You said essential words which is trust, are people going to trust that it is safe to circulate again and that makes y take some time before people want to travel outside of their own countries, were learning we can do an awful lot through virtual means and we could do a lot online and we might see for a while that all of those conferences that were used to going to with huge numbers of people might not take place for a while, i certainly hope in time what we built over decades and decades and decades that people do travel and they do circulate and do study together as we see in universities that were not going to see the putting up a wall because we have this particular experience. That may be an initial response but here is where leadership by the United States in leadership by the other Major Economies through something could start to send signals that despite what we had to do in this initial phase, we had to shut down for very good reasons, we dont want to stay this way, we want to be opening up of people doing business across borders, we do want the students studying in Different Countries so we keep continuing to get to know each other better. Those messages will be very important, im concerned about what the United States will experience in terms of foreign students, its not just stanford and harvard that have borne students, if you go to the small colleges in the midwest and big states there are a lot of foreign students and will have to send out a message that we want them to come back even if theyve gone home that we want them to come back and i think this is a place of messages will be extremely important, in terms of Global Supply, i think youll see an impact, there is already in Congress Several bills about china and supply chain in the first is going to be about how dependent we are on china in the pharmaceutical space whether its the ingredients or for the fact that a lot of generic are made there because of cheaper conditions or how dependent majors pharmaceutical companies are on assembly and manufacturer in china, there are those that think that we need to bring that capacity back to the United States because its been shown to be strategic and shown to be a matter of National Security that we control our own supply chain on the pharmaceutical and medical side, that will be difficult to do but i think you will get a lot of pressure, on broader supply chain thats been going on for some time because of the extended trade war, companies have been reevaluating their supply chain, i saw Peter Navarro said we may even bring Companies Huge benefits to bring their manufacture and supply chain back home, they may not stay in china, the likelihood is to go to other places, vietnam, the indias think theyll be a major beneficiary, but i think theyll see major reordering on how Companies Think about the supply chain, this turns out to be very secure and they will take that message. David asks about that actors, and maybe to take a vantage of the covid19 to advance their own interests, is this realistic and what are the more dangerous threats to deal with or consider. A dangerous threat one thing that you worry about is that actors will try to take advantage of colors of destruction the ohmmeter leaders on the covid19 crisis or maybe not paying attention. I will tell you after 9 11, the very first thing that i did what i got to the bunker was to get to the state department to send out a table to every person in the world and that the United States of america is functioning and thats a message to your friends, theres also message to your home to not try anything, its a different situation but im quite certain that our intelligence agencies, our defense agencies, the pentagon, they may not be on high stages of work but there on higher stages of vigilance. To make sure that nobody is going to try to take advantage and im sure theyre walking the north koreans like a hawk, im sure theyre watching the rain is like a hawk because you do not want anyone to take advantage but while the other others and probably members of the National SecurityCouncil Staff are worried about the crisis we certainly have people who are trying to make sure that no bad actor takes advantage of us. Tell us a little bit about the developing, what is going on there, how is the pendulum it going and what is our relationship with them over the years to come. The biggest impact has been in big cities where people circulate, places i south africa which is the economy that is integrated through the International System and where people