Transcripts For CSPAN2 After Words Ben Howe The Immoral Majo

Transcripts For CSPAN2 After Words Ben Howe The Immoral Majority 20240712

What a lot of christians do is a look at the most urgent between politics and religion and whatever those they have prior is so they needed to. The pastor showed a good example how that works and then not indoors met romney then spent a lot of time that they had to do whatever they could on spiritual grounds and then suddenly it was fine. What do you say to the person who says as a commentator on fact one on fox news that the church is responsibility is one thing to preach the gospel that the governments job is to to compartmentalize and donald trump is protecting us and protecting the borders and is a strong man to fight the muslim threat and it doesnt quite matter it wasnt our pastor in chief. So he merges them conveniently in the moment that he needs to. Asking about the sermon on the mount rather have a candidate and then says heck no which is shocking and then he molds that into what the United States does and as government and is excusing trumps behavior despite the matter how far away it is. That the government isnt a person and from what i have seen so far if you have a government that functions a morally and that something that represents that a morality. And then to have that amoral president. And those and the tweets and so forth. Like ben sass and others. And they line up in terms of policy. I dont think there is necessarily anything wrong with the idea or the concept of a transactional relationship. That we have expectations of the person and then to support them and then they get your support. The reason it is not transactional doesnt do things but absolutely. And not making it easy to prone people under the bus it was almost mafia like. If its people in a position to become a critic and therefore an enemy and then to everybody on the right they are more concerned about getting and up living a lie and in that business industry as long as i have and privately they have angst about this and how difficult to make this for them. And you can say he should not do this. And to speak out strongly on that so he loses the prophetic voice. Im not a psychologist they dont want to get too deep that the election was similar to how and if you notice and Russell Moore did Say Something about that. And with that convention. He has already said to the republican movement. What is falwell junior do . He jumps up the Russell Moore almost lost her job over there. And now the new good news and this was the broadest one that i would say even i struggled with and to have a lot of empathy and that essentially means you have two options , the only two options you have got one is bad. One is worse if youre going to be rational you choose bad over worse. 2016 Hillary Clinton was prochoice appoint judges you will not like will not protect religious liberty and raise taxes do all the things as a christian or conservative. So to bring all this baggage and problems this is bad but this is worse. What is your critique of that . To hear this all the time and the big thing is and then to throw the vote away. How do you answer that . Especially from the evangelicals. Maybe i am talking to someone because if there is no greater moral truth in the universe and something that we all agreed on and pragmatically, sure. Why not the entire idea so once i establish that it is the question how much do you really trust god if you think god is limited to the twoparty system . So the lesser evil argument and to keep the system in place that takes accountability out of the system and is an easy way and then use that as a way to get votes which seems about the worst possible way former Clinton Administration and secretary with economic inequality and in this portion he offers thoughts on the Trump Administration on the working class. Is style is the antiestablishment populist. He likes to sound tough and hands rallies that he is politically incorrect and sounds like he calls it as it is but the second point is very important and fox news manages to translate the oligarchy with the regulatory rollbacks and that they feel they are populist policies for people. Without fox news i am not sure into be as successful and that combination and then obviously Mitch Mcconnell and the republican senators but to pull the wool over the eyes and its very difficult for democrats to say over and over again to workingclass americans you are worse off than you were before the wealthy and big corporations are much better than they were before and everything he possibly can to basically make your lives more difficult. Its hard to make that argument just by stating it. But may be the coronavirus and the economic crisis we are in make some workingclass people a little more open to hearing it

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